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Over 65 no pip enhanment

Hi I think it's important to let everyone know about some information I got last week,maybe some people already are aware but I wasent,when I had my first face to face for pip, I lost my enhanced rate for mobility, but got enhanced rate for care which I didn't have that was 2016, so rather than rock the boat,I left it,I had a set of forms in February this year to fill out to see if my circumstances had changed, & if i needed another face to face ( wasent really due till next year) the reply was they could see I needed more mobility care but because I was over 65 by law they couldn't give it to me, I eventually rang them up and said well you took it off me when I went for my first interveiw so I was acctually awarded it before I was 65, it would be just giving it to me back, the adviser said oh it dosent work like that, so I said, so anyone over 65 that have to go for another interveiw can only have it taken off them not enhanced, she said Yes. So be warned once you reach 65 all the re interveiws is to reduce your level so you can be as sick as you like but nothing will be enhanced,

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What I was told was once you are 65 you can not be given a higher rate, but they can lower your rate,so any interveiws etc are not to see if you need more help, shocking eh,

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Were you previously on DLA or was this straight on to PIP?

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I was 65 a few weeks after the cut off from dla, so I was on the high mobility with that and standard care,the pip assesment turned that around and because everyone was nervous about the new system I didn't challenge it, (stupid me) I thought well be they will enhance it next time, what I didn't know is they cannot by law (their words) because I am now 69. but of course they knew that at the time it's just the public don't.

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Not sure this is quite how it is. It is a bit more complicated.

It used to be, and probably still is, that DLA was paid between ages of 16 and 65. 65 being retirement age.

If you were already on DLA or PIP when your reached retirement

Then they changed retirement age bringing women up to same age as men on aa siding scale. I was 62 when I retired but still kept middle care and higher mobility.

Then that changed and now everyone retires at 66 or 67. But they have still kept 65 as age you can no longer apply.

I moved from DLA to PIP this year, at 65, and went from middle care to enhance with no problem.

I don't claim mobility any more as I live abroad and that beneift isn't paid.

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Interesting, maybe they have learned a few thing in the last 4yrs,delighted you got enhanced,I didn't know you could get benefits abroad, but no mobility,honest if I lived to be 90 I could still not understand the benefit system, blessings to you and yours.

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The only reason I went ahead off my own bat was PIP descriptors were more favorable to me than DLA.

Could have stayed on DLA til called forward but money ruled!!

No the only benefits DWP can pay abroad are...DLA/PIP care component, Attendance Allowance, carers allowance and pension. So when I moved I had to forego my higher mobility.

But....my husband who gets a War Pension gets everything as it is paid by MOD and they think more of their servicemen! Quite right too!

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Hi I believe once you reach state pension age you cannot now claim for the mobility aspect of benefits. Not sure if this has always been the case. x

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I've lost track of what the pension age is these days, when I worked it was 60 women 65 men, but it's all changed now,but if you finish work with an accident etc at 63 unless you know the benefit system heaven help them dosent give them much time does it to get over 1.an accident and 2. Learn everything about pip's etc.

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Not if you are already in receipt when you retire.

If you are a new claimant you can only apply for Attendance Allowance which doesn't contain a mobility element

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My husband was on full Motability for 19 years as soon as I reach pension age he was taken off and put on standard

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Sorry I don't understand how your husband's benefit had anything to do with your age?

It is paid to the individual non means tested and regardless of working.

Was he still on DLA or changed to PIP?

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He was on DLA then when he was 65 they changed it to Pip therefore that's when it was taken off high rate motability and put on standard Motability

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He has been retired through ill health for the past 20 years and not getting any better

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So like all of us on lifetime or indefinite DLA he was assessed for new benefit PIP. Under this assessment he lost higher rate and only receives standard rate?

This has nothing to do with his age and certainly nothing to do with your age.

I too was 65 when I applied for PIP.

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That's correct he has spondylosis of the spine osteoporosis diabetes sciatica arthritis had 3 heart attacks hiatus hernia colostomy bag underactive thyroid not going to get any better

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So did you appeal the decision?

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We did the first time when he was 65 we asked for a reconsideration that didn't get it anywhere was going to go to a tribunal but my husband was frightened he would lose what they had awarded him already so we didn't appear but knowing what we know now we won't have got anything more

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Yes you would if it is within 12 months

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The state pension age now depends on when you were born. For example I was born in early 1954 and mine is 65 and 4 months. My sister is 2 years younger and she will get hers at 66. For into about benefits google gov.uk x

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Men used to retire at 65 and women 60. Under pressure gov decided to bring women up to same age so...women born between 1950 and 1955 were on a sliding scale to gradually bring up to same as men.

I was born mid '52 and in the last group to retire under these plans before they were scrapped. So I got my pension at 62 yrs, 5 months and 18 days!!

Now you can't find any info about this group

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Hello all, my friend was told the same thing re PIP. She was given enhanced care and low rate mobility 2 years ago. She had a reassessment a couple of weeks ago and she was kept on the same rates even though one of the people that she spoke to over the phone told her she would probably qualify for more money. When she spoke to someone else they told her that they can't increase the mobility rate if you are over 65.

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I believe you can’t get pip after 65 but what you can then gst is attendance allowance if you have cars needs Attendance allowance doesn’t have a requirement for an automatic Medical they just go off your hospital/Drs notes.

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Apparently if you have mobility prior to 65th birthday you get put on attendance allowance instead once you reach 65, apparently it appears that you would be a bit better off on that.

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You can not claim for the mobility enhancement after 65 but if you are already on it they Have to put you on the Enhanced attendance allowance instead unless you're circumstances have changed for the better. I should have made that clearer on my first post Sorry

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There is no mobility component in AA and is a totally separate benefit. If you are in reciept of DLA?PIp when you reach 65 you keep it.

If you are a new claimant then you can only apply for AA.

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Absolutely correct.

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Hope this might clarify any confusion....

DLA and PIP age rules

For both DLA and PIP, there has always been an upper age limit for new claims. People can continue to get DLA or PIP beyond the age of 65, if they continue to satisfy the relevant disability tests, but new claims must have been made before the person’s 65th birthday. Attendance Allowance (AA) may be claimed by people aged 65 or over with care needs, but it has no mobility component.

Effect on other benefits

The upper age limit for new DLA or PIP claims means that people with health problems or disabilities which emerge only after they have reached 65 cannot get help through the benefits system for mobility needs. It also means that they are unable to access other benefits which are linked to receipt of the DLA or PIP mobility component, including the Motability scheme and exemption from Vehicle Excise Duty.

Why is there an upper age limit?

Successive governments have justified the age limit for new claims on cost grounds and the need to give priority to those disabled earlier in life, who are likely to have had less opportunity to work, earn and save than those with mobility needs emerging only after they reach 65.

Isn't this discrimination?

It is often argued that this constitutes age discrimination, but the courts have ruled that the age limit is not unlawful.

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i quite agree the test are to see how much they can reduce your money also I am my husbands carer i had to give up work at 57 to look after him,i got carers allowance then at 63 i wasnt allowed it if i claimed carers allowance it would be taken off my pension hes getting worse as he ages so it doesnt make sence to me

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