Moderna after Astra zeneca?

[Brychni]

Hi all,

Carmarthen is now rolling out the Moderna vaccine. I had the Astra Zeneca does anyone know if first and second vaccines are mixed or will second jab be the same make?

[helixhelix]

At the moment they are all saying second vaccine will be the same. And while stocks are fine there's no reason to change.

[janmary]

We had 2nd dose Pfizer appt brought forward 2 weeks

[Gnarli]

I'm due for the scend vaccination on Friday. I had the Oxford Astra Zenica the first time. I'll let you know what happened after the jab

[Brychni in reply to Gnarli]

thanks Gnarli . x

[Gnarli in reply to Brychni]

Sorry, Brychni, I misread the calendar. The vaccination is due on Saturday not Friday.

[allanah]

At the momrnt you get the same one but it is possible to mix. NOVAVAX our own UK manufactured vaccine will be passed soon and then we will have no supply issues !!!

In fact after we all get covered we can help other countries 🙂

[nomoreheels]

Hiya Brychni. As I understand it they prefer you to have your second vaccine by the same manufacturer as that's what has been tested & proven whereas different first to second hasn't. In fact my h, who had the Pfizer vaccine, was told that his second dose will even be from the same batch number, that it was retained until vaccinated again. I had the Astra Zeneca one at the same hospital a few weeks later though not informed as my h was. Just our experience but it would seem to be going against what we're being told if you don't have the same one for your second dose.

[Hidden]

Same make unless there’s a reason not to, although the only acceptable reason for that at the moment appears to be anaphylaxis. I’m still waiting to hear which jab I may be able to have as a second dose, but was originally told not pfizer or moderna because of them both being mRNA. There is a study running looking at the efficacy of mixing makes, but I don’t know how close that is to completion.

Changing the topic, do you live in Carmarthen? It would explain an awful lot of your naff treatment if you do. I moved us from there and out of Wales completely two years ago, having failed to be diagnosed for 10 years and the general level of medical care being absolutely abysmal.

[Brychni in reply to Hidden]

Hi Charlie_G - we are near Llandovery, and go to rheumatology appointments at Prince Philip in Llanelli.I know it's hard to keep up with everyone's stories and posts - I'm at the going private stage! I had my appointment yesterday and promised myself I wouldn't post an update until I have had my scans because yesterday was only the initial consultation and of course, not much has changed in terms of what I know and what I don't know about progress since diagnosis. Although, she has re prescribed hydroxychloroquine but agreed that mtx was probably not right although she will reassess that when I've had the scans.

My GP ordered MRI on my whole spine a while ago and even though he told me not to hold my breath, they called me a couple of weeks ago so the result was ready for the private consultant. I'm in a bit of a strange mood today as the result showed no inflammation which of course is a good thing but did show degenerative disc damage (or something) and I know that will get worse and there isn't a preventive medication for that and it worries me. I asked about hypermobility and without a diagnosis it doesn't mean much and after examining me the only areas were probably knee caps and definitely spine as I can place my palms flat on the floor when bending over.

The ultrasounds are going to be on right shoulder the pain is off the scale at times, elbows which are bad pretty much all the time and fingers which are swelling regularly, wrists and some knuckles.

She did say some interesting things about inflammatory arthritides; I had no idea that there are so many grey areas and overlapping and that the line between osteoarthritis and inflammatory is not as hard and fast as what we read. People really do often have lots of things going on at the same time and not all inflammatory arthritides cause systemic damage, although they often develop.

I drove to Cardiff for the appointment and the whole thing is taking up so much time and mental energy that I am beginning to get quite down about it.

Since last posting, both arms have got really bad. My wrists, elbows and shoulders are weak and starting to affect my daily life. The worst thing though is my legs which, although not painful, also feel quite weak and running is becoming impossible. So depressing, as I am a great believer in exercise. I've just started going for longer walks with the dog and doing a little jog here and there!

The only thing that I was unhappy about was her insistence that I might not be sleeping very well in spite of the fact that I told her I slept perfectly most of the time! Aaaaarggh! Sometimes my neck makes it difficult because of stiffness and pain, but it doesn't happen a lot. She went on about not feeling 'refreshed' even though I do!!

I'm expecting a call today to book the scans and will post an update as soon as I get the results. In the meantime, even though she told me to take the hydroxyc. for the obviously inflammatory issues, I am not going to until I have the results back. xx

[Hidden in reply to Brychni]

During my 10 years back and forth to the GP with my joints, rheumatology at PP were the ones to tell me they didn’t have a clue what was wrong with me, but it couldn’t be arthritis due to normal bloods. Within 3 months of seeing my GP in England, I’d been diagnosed and was starting treatment. Take from that what you will. I am sorry you’re going through this, but not even remotely surprised.

I’ll msg you privately later, but will say this publicly: healthcare in Wales is massively substandard across the board. Most people living in Wales have no clue as to just how poor the care they receive (or quite often don’t receive) is. I say that as someone that lived there for 18 years with a variety of sometimes more unusual health issues, had a child with complex and life limiting needs born there, and still has aging parents and close friends living under various health boards experiencing similar issues to the ones we went through over and over. Both of my much younger siblings got out as soon as they could, even the one born in Wales and raised as a fluent Welsh speaker. Between my daughter and I, we received treatment at every hospital between Aberystwyth and Cardiff, and were consistently misdiagnosed and/or given poor, occasionally potentially life threatening, care at every single one. I ultimately left Wales because, as melodramatic as it might sound, it’s an objective fact that one of us would have likely died long before our time if we hadn’t. There are brilliant individuals within NHS Wales that absolutely want the best for their patients, but the overall system itself is broken, completely unfit for purpose, and often causes avoidable harm.

[Deminem]

hia!

There are studies being done to test mix and match vaccines, but it takes time for the results to check efficacy and safety. Though I heard on the news yesterday that Germany is already offering some ppl who had the OX AZ an alternative for the 2nd jab.