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Hi guys quick update on pip ... spoke to them and they told me to do a MR but they don’t contact doctor just want to know how you feel on a day to day basis ... really suprised they don’t contact gp as my GP is happy to give them details of my condition... plus assessment officer never even contacted me to go through decisions etc .. so doubt it will change but I’m going to appeal anyway ... 😡😡😡😓😓 perhaps I will send them some pictures as I’ve been non weight bearing for 3 days as I had a ulcer that burst on ball of foot very painful and not pretty but on mend now ...

This is a good angel of my very pretty toes lol 😂

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Gosh , yes send them that picture of your toes. I know exactly how you must be feeling because both my feet are the same as yours and my big toe joint goes right over at an angle like yours does . I do hope your ulcer clears up soon , they are so dreadfully painful.

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ldwilliams

Ask your GP for a report from him and include it And any new evidence (Hosp reports etc) with your change of circumstances!!

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tubbytomo in reply toldwilliams

The doctor has all my photos now and told me that they can only respond when pip contact them as pip do not want me to send any reports or photos to them ... it’s so they don’t have to pay you any more as they are not seeing you face to face not that there assessment team are medically qualified anyway which just makes it bonkers .!!

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ldwilliams in reply totubbytomo

I said what I would do in your situation. Without additional evidence/proof they will not increase anything. Also, you do not appeal until you have made your Mandatory reconsideration

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tubbytomo in reply toldwilliams

Yes I know appeal is last thing and I’m pretty certain not a lot is going to change ... advisor was suprised that a assessment member did not actually call me to go through my paperwork but I guess I slipped through the net eh .!!

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BoneyC

Have you looked on the Benefits & Work website? I have used their guides in the past with success.

I remember years ago asking a doctor to support me in an application and he replied, whilst I can tell them about your health condition I cannot tell them how you cope at home with everyday tasks as I just don't know, which was fair enough.

Good luck.

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tubbytomo in reply toBoneyC

Funny enough that is all they are interested in and I’m not the best in explaining how I feel etc as with this disease if u don’t have a stiff upper lip I’m fine I can do it approach I would just end up in a wheelchair it’s so frustrating trying to fight for a small amount of money to help towards house costs etc and they make you feel like this .!!!

Bombard them with photos and letters of support. A letter from your gp goes a long way. Anyone you see to help you control this disease get letters of support. Make copies for the future and when you post it get a signature on receipt . They. Slimed they didn’t receive mine on time .. I had proof of signature it costs more but was worth it for me. Good luck x

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tubbytomo in reply to

Oh ok I send it recorded delivery then I take ? A d ask for proof of signature... I’m going to send them letter from my son my friend and all pictures even gruesome ones of burst ulcers etc and I’m going to insist they contact my gp etc and then when it’s a no go I’m going to go to appeal ... it’s now or never approach now ...

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You are certainly entitled. Your photos back that up.. WAR!! Go in with all guns blazing.I asked for a signature on delivery. You given a tracking no and you can trace the letter and there is confirmation of date/time and signature.

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tubbytomo

Lol at your think of them as the enemy I think I am now going to adopt this attitude as I tried to explain my illness is not going to get better and my doctor already stated I can’t up my meds as I’m on the top level .. I mean I actually inject a bio logic wkly if they looked that up they would know l can’t really do more then that ...

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Fifi2

Gosh why do they make it so hard ? Nobody asks for this damn RA .They recieved my claim dec 1st haven’t heard anything back yet .Maybe I’ll give them a call

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You should have heard by now they have received your application.. they claimed they never received my first one had to reapply.

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Yes they sent a txt dec 1st to say they had received it

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That’s good but worth chasing

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Think I may call them

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Zoeeee20 in reply toFifi2

I sent my form in October and I had my assessment last week just waiting on the decision now

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Fifi2 in reply toZoeeee20

Oh wow wonder why it takes so long

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nomoreheels

You can provide evidence written by your GP if they're not intending to contact him, even though it says they may they don't always. It's no different to any other supporting letter in that it's evidence of how RD affects you & what you do or need to do & any help you need to get you through the day. He can include in a report of sorts the details of your condition in that. Don't forget to keep copies of everything you send to the DWP, including the Mandatory Report.

Have you received the assessors report (it's actually called the Consultation report form - PA4), if so are there many discrepancies you can list? This is how the DWP Decision Maker comes to his decision, that report is not included in your award documentation so if there are inconsistencies to your claim it will be in the Consultation report form (submitted by the ASOS or Capita assessor, depending on region). When you return your Mandatory Consideration, as with anything else to do with PIP it's always worth the extra to send it so it's signed for at the other end.

If you want to send evidence

This needs to shows why the decision was wrong. It could, for example, be:

new medical evidence

reports or care plans from specialists, therapists or nurses

bank statements or payslips

Only include evidence you have not already sent.

Write your full name, date of birth and National Insurance number at the top of each bit of evidence and send it to the benefit office where you applied for your benefit. gov.uk/mandatory-reconsider...

Be careful not to say outright that your condition has changed otherwise they'll throw in why did you not apply for the Change in Circumstances claim form.

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tubbytomo in reply tonomoreheels

Oh that’s interesting about the condition changing as I spoke in detail to the pip people about this and as I stated my condition changes every few months as it’s aggressive ... she said go through MR first if no go go to appeal... if I loose then leave it a while and then go change of circumstances... god it’s a long winded process for not a lot really .. but it also helps to add to the household bills so no choice really I suppose ... but they make you feel like you are begging ..., been reading about Katie price where she has now been declared disabled as her foot is really bad and put her knee and hip out .... really ... I don’t really have a lot of faith in this system but I will try and fight as much as I can .... this page has really helped me as I now know how many of you have to fight as well ... thank you all x

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nomoreheels in reply totubbytomo

CoC was mentioned to me & I did consider it but I was only a couple of months from my renewal (9 months prior to end of award) so hung on which was thought acceptable. It isn't easy for those who are in need of help that's for sure. I hadn't heard that about Katie Price but had seen that she'd had a nasty time with breaking her feet.

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tubbytomo in reply tonomoreheels

Thanks for your help been very informative...I sent letters from my son my friend and a letter sort of dairy of how it effects me and my day to day living I’ve also instructed them to contact my gp and RA consultant as they instructed me todo this I sent them some very nice recent proof my hands and feet and X-ray etc ...fingers crossed...when I can move them lol ...watch this space x

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tubbytomo in reply totubbytomo

Well got my pip MR back so they have moved me to enhanced rate for daily care but not changed mobility still at standard so not really sure how I feel about that .!!!

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nomoreheels in reply totubbytomo

That's good news re enhanced daily living, not so much re mobility. Were you able to send any reports from your Rheumy, or any other medical professional at all? Sad to say but they seem to take medical reports as gospel & so use them to support anything they see physically. Instructing them to do this isn't particularly helpful it would seem, they'd rather you collated everything, anything new that hadn't been included in previous applications. I found out this from my initial PIP award & MR. They don't really take into account personal accounts & such, I didn't include any but neither did I have any newer supporting medical evidence, that came weeks later when my Rheumy examined my feet but it was too late, MR had been returned.

Have a good think if you're not sure how you feel about standard mobility, don't respond straight away as I’m sure you've feeling aggrieved. It won't help in thinking straight, thinking how do they want you to respond in order to collect the missing extra points which would take you to enhanced. Remember, if you decide to advance to appeal you have 30 days from the MR letter.

I don't know how long you have on this award but if it's a couple of years think if it's the right thing to do. You're usually contacted for review assessment around a year before your current award runs out, actually it was 9 months for me. I decided to hang fire & just provide all of the more recent medical evidence from anyone I see, anything dated after the MR letter. I didn't include anything they'd already had, this is important. I received enhanced on both components at my review, whereas I was a couple of points shy of standard mobility previously.

All the very best whatever you decide.

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