Questionable ?!

[Eiram50]

Maybe my thinkings a bit skewed- not sure.

I have a very aggressive RD and AS which fir 3 years has proven difficult to get under control. This has led to a significant amount of surgery, consistent flares and consequently, time off work.

I Recently suffered quite a significant flare and had been signed off Work for a month, despite my feeling I wanted to return.

Given the guilt I feel and the knock this young and driving had on my confidence, I advised my manager on the 11 Feb that following my return to work, I was going to reduce my hours, to which she agreed happily too.

However, she then that day informed HR that I had gone from 36.5 hours to 24 and that’s how they’ve paid me this month ( as opposed to full time sick pay).

Surely this is not right as not only did I state clearly that I wished to reduce my hours on my return to work but that I had been signed off sick on my contractual full time contract ( pay should’ve reflected this). I feel this should not have been done in these circumstances- my hours not reduced until I physically came back to work ?

Hope this makes sense?!

Am I wrong about this??

Marie

[Eiram50]

Tooing and froing- not young and driving; typo!!!!

[Ern007 in reply to Eiram50]

Hi Eiram50

This is just to save your time. You can edit your post, there is an option at the bottom of the editor box, saves you having to post a correction..

I don't know what "I have a very aggressive RD and AS" - RD and AS stand for, so I can't comment on your post. Good luck whatever it is.

[Eiram50 in reply to Ern007]

Ah, apologies. I have very aggressive form of rheumatoid arthritis and Ankylosing Spondylitis , which three plus yeArs in, they still cannot get under control.

[Ern007 in reply to Eiram50]

No apologies needed. I have just been diagnosed with rheumatoid arthritis as well as osteoarthritis

. Does not affect me like you, I am retired. Something does not sound right. A mistake has been made, but will that be admitted. I think you need to go higher than your manager here, and get written clarification about what has happened and why. it's going to be tough. Good Luck.

[Eiram50 in reply to Ern007]

I have e mailed, sat through training with her when I returned to work yesterday, texted and called her- nothing and she’s off now until next week ( after this months pay day- which means I’d have to wait until next month)- so I went above her to her manager who is the practice team manager. Something I would not ordinarily do but I felt I gave her every chance to acknowledge, if not deal with the situation. She won’t be happy but I will manage that?

It was s difficult decision after 10 years in this team, reducing my hours and as a single parent of 3 girls still at home, had financial implications and this mistake is a significant difference to my pay, so I needed it addressed as a matter of priority- something she’d be well aware of .

Not a great return to work!

[Ern007 in reply to Eiram50]

IMO it was a hard thing to do, and will probably upset your manager. It was the right thing to do. Your three girls come before your managers feeling. Has she had any regard for you, she would have sorted this for you, you where just ignored. I would have done the same..

[Hidden]

No, i think theyre on a sticky wicket there! You re right, good luck sorting it out x

[Eiram50 in reply to Hidden]

That was my feeling. I raised it with my manager via e mail yesterday and she ignored it. Saw her this morning and she didn’t even acknowledge my being back! Disappointing.

Thank you

[Hidden in reply to Eiram50]

Good you ve got written record, i'd forward to HR and ask for 'clarification' or something on why they've already dropped pay. They have to state their position then, my bet is they say it's error

[Eiram50 in reply to Hidden]

Will do

[Hidden in reply to Eiram50]

Good luck x

[Jewels94]

Are you in a union. If so you should really get them involved in this. It also might be an idea to get occupational health involved. If you can say that you have reduced your hours due to health you may be able to protect your occupational pension, presuming you pay into one.

[Eiram50 in reply to Jewels94]

I am in the union and if I have no joy with her, I will speak to them. I’m hoping it won’t need to come to that.

I’ve been to occupational health who have been very supportive. To be fair, work have always been more than supportive and accommodating but new manager and she has a reputation of being a bit of a bully- something I will not tolerate!

[Sanbanan]

Hi Marie.

Surely they can't do this without you signing a new contract with your new hours? Definitely worth checking with the union.

I also know what it's like having a manager who is a bully however, the Equality Act is there to protect us so don't feel intimidated by someone who probably knows very little about the legality of all this.

Hope the union can help xx

[Eiram50 in reply to Sanbanan]

Thank you. That was my thoughts exactly, particularly as I was in paid sick leave but also that is been explicit re this was my plan after I returned to work.

I’m not intimidated- cannot stand bullying behaviour and would always challenge it x

[Mhairi54]

Was going say the same as Sanbanan, surely they can't cut your pay if you've not signed your new contract?! Stick to your guns on this one Marie, that's outrageous!

[Eiram50 in reply to Mhairi54]

I certainly will do! Thank you.

Hope things are well with you .

Marie

[Mmrr]

Your pay should only be dropped as of when your new part time contract begins.

[helixhelix]

That's not right....but if your manager has a reputation for being a bit of a bully then you're unlikely to get her/him to admit they made a mistake so try to sort it out via HR.

[Eiram50 in reply to helixhelix]

I’ll speak to her this morning and if no joy, I’ll speak to the big manager. Thank tiu

[janmary]

As others have said, this is obviously a ‘mistake?!’ Or ‘manager on a mission’

Go via H R and OH, union rep if necessary

Good luck

[Jewels94]

Having re read your original post,I am also wondering if you had considered a temporary reduction in your hours, as in a phased return to work. This would give you the opportunity to decide if reduced hours was right for you. Some companies actually pay you full time pay during a phased return.

[Eiram50 in reply to Jewels94]

Hi jewels

Yeah I’ve done this on a few occasions over the past few years but unfortunately, I know myself I’m just no longer able to continue full time. Thus may change in the future, at which point I can easily increase them again.

Marie

[Gnarli]

Reckon your manager has dropped a massive clanger. Totally wrong on every level. I also think she has picked the wrong person to do this to. Go gettem girl!

J

[Eiram50 in reply to Gnarli]

Thanks jan

[Soreknees2016]

I would have thought that there should have been an agreed dated from which this would take effect, given that it is a formal change to your contractual hours, and perhaps you should have had to sign something and have some confirming documentation? I think you’ve mentioned that you’re a social worker so I’m assuming you’re in a local authority and they should have robust processes in place for any contractual changes. Unless they’re trying to pull a fast one to save money!

[Eiram50 in reply to Soreknees2016]

Absolutely - I think it’s more just down to my team leader/ line manager. Jury is still out as to whether thus is just another bullying tactic or whether she’s just been super efficient. Either way, it’s wrong.

[Soreknees2016 in reply to Eiram50]

She sounds like a real joy to work with!

[popsmith1874]

Well done stick to your guns, no way should they get away with what their trying to do, hope you get things fixed out xxx

[beeckey]

What a way to treat you give people a little power and it goes to their head but you are capable to stand up to this person so go for it.I hate bullies.