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Morning you lovely people .

I'll try keep this short ...I returned to work this January after being off for 11 months .i work as a flight attendant 👩‍✈️.My job entails long hours , different time zones and pushing trolleys :-)

I've had to call in sick yesterday after a particularly arduous work month (6 long haul flights )

I'm wiped out exhausted feeling faint .

Went to see GP they don't really have the knowledge and suggested I contact the hospital clinic ..no luck

I thought I might be anemic as I'm completely drained , I wake up tired and have to nap in the afternoon. I went for a blood test yesterday, am waiting results

I'm on leflunomide and rituximab infusions ( due next month )

Anybody else had this ?

I also think I have plantar fasciitis...another thing to add to the list grrrrrr

Any advice pls ?

I'm so disappointed as I was doing so so well

I know I can't work full time anymore

My employer has offered me part time which begins in September

Thanks guys

Fiona

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Hi Fiona,

I am supposed to be on Leflunomide but due to reactions I am struggling to take it. I still have a job and know exactly what you mean about the exhaustion as I get that by about three every afternoon. It is good that you have reduced your hours and gone part time.

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Fifi2 in reply toJulieMay

Thanks for reply .

It's just that I was doing so well then bang !

I've listened to my body this time and taken time off .

Had an awful year last year with my employer trying to get me to resign from the job .

Not ready to hang my wings up yet

At 54 Im too young to retire ! I would get bored

But I do know I can't hack full time

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AgedCrone in reply toFifi2

Hi Fiona....I was long haul cabin crew for 20+ years & my GP always said he was very surprised I didn't catch more than I did with all the contact I had with different bugs around the world.

Luckily I didn't get diagnosed with RA until I had retired...at 55....but no way could I have coped with flying in today's conditions....especially with your immune system being compromised you can pick up all sorts of nasties.

Believe me you won't be bored without flying! There is a whole new world you can enjoy without living with a suitcase at the end of your bed 24/7. Don't misunderstand, I loved flying...but knowing the pain & joint damage RA can inflict ......I'd think really hard about continuing.

Don't rush...try part time....but I honestly feel the more you push yourself with 3am pick ups,& 12hr+ plus duty days the less likely you are to feel the benefit of the meds you are on.I too am on RTX......refused to have either Lfl or Mtx in the mix as I was very ill on both of them.

I do get very tired & the thought of HAVING to put on a uniform & walk to LA horrifies me. I now sit back & watch crews work, & thank my lucky stars it's not me.

Good Luck whatever you decide, but don't make yourself worse by overdoing things flying. Is there a possibility of a ground job? I think there is some sort of rule you should be offered am alternative position if needed due to health issues. Have a word with your Rheumy Nurses, they are very knowledgable......alternatively have a word with your Citizen's Advice Bureau!

Hope it all works out for you!

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Fifi2 in reply toAgedCrone

Hello fellow ex crew :-)

You are absolute correct no point killing myself doing the job .

Going 75%sept and if need be drop to 50% then 33%

Going to rheumy nurse tomorrow morn and ask to stop leflunomide and see if that does the trick ( haven't taken it all this week )

Long haul flying is punishing ..2 x EZE 2 night stops and JFK back to back ! All in one month .Think that's what tipped me over the edge ....utterly exhausted 😩 even if I were normal I would be tired after that :)

Last year I seriously thought of jacking it all in but wanted to give it one more go .

Will have to put my thinking cap on and maybe think of an alternative career path but at 54 not sure what .

Flying is all I know but I'm sure there must be something out there :-)

Thanks for taking the time to reply

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AgedCrone in reply toFifi2

Something to make you smile...I flew before the advent of trolleys& & I swear my wonky osteoarthritic right forefinger is the result of carrying those heavy coffee pots!!

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Fifi2 in reply toAgedCrone

Ah the golden years ....how's I wish it were like it now !

Aviation has changed so much since I began 21 years ago

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AgedCrone in reply toFifi2

Golden Years? Carrying 250 lunch trays twice a day on the JFK/BDA shuttle .....all on a plate of chips & a chocolate milkshake?

Ha!Ha!

I know what you mean...I was lucky & quit before it got too bad.I was lucky enough to have a couple of years on RTW's, three weeks on, two weeks off. Thought I'd died & gone to heaven!

Hope everything goes well for you....just know there is life after flying.

Lotsa Luck!

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Fifi2 in reply toAgedCrone

I'm sure there is .....just not ready to hang my wings up just yet :)

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KayEP

I am also on Rituximab, but refused to take leflunomide along with it because the fatigue was so great that I could have slept 24/7. Still tired for a couple of days of Rituximab infusion and suffer permanent fatigue but much better without the leflunomide. Don't envy you all those long haul flights! If you Rheumy thinks you needs something to go with the Rituximab maybe then can suggest something else, but I'm happy with just the Rituximab. I also suffer badly with foot problems, can't wear heals anymore and have just had surgery on a toe, and have corns on the ball of my foot which I never had before RA. I imagine the amount of time you spend on your feet during flights makes things worse for you. Good luck. xo

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Fifi2 in reply toKayEP

Thanks for your reply

I have a scan on my feet soon as I have a large soft lump under my big toe .

Think it's a messed up foot surgery I had 3 years ago .sesmoids exposed

Ouch

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Fifi2 in reply toKayEP

Thanks for your reply .

It's a real pain isn't it ?

Must try to stay positive.

Xx

Hi Fifi2. Wow, you're a bit of a hero! Just watching flight attendants in action makes me tired lol! I would imagine that long haul flights can constitute a very taxing working environment for any body, healthy or otherwise.

Inflammatory arthritis does make us less resilient, I think that's just how it is because the disease puts the body under some degree of physical stress. But the fatigue component can be tackled and reduced, I hope rituximab does that for you. Is is your first biologic?

Much as we aim to live full lives, sometimes something has to give to make that possible. I hope you're okay with going part-time and that it makes a big difference to your well-being.

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Not feeling very heroic this morning , trust me :-)

You're right something does have to give ! I'm happy to go part time luckily I can afford to .

I have no choice really .

I tried simponi before but it didn't give me relief for the full month , so swapped to rituximab

I've been on leflunomide for a year without any problems so not sure why , now , I'm feeling exhausted.

I'm due my third infusion next month ( I have it 6 monthly )

Funny how what makes you feel better RA wise makes you feel crap in other ways .ho hum ....all part of life's rich tapestry.

I'm also getting really bad cramp in my legs

Ha h aha the list gets longer

Have to laugh otherwise I would cry 😭

Thanks for your reply

Fiona

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Hi sorry to hear your troubles. I'm relatively new to RA , I see a lot of comments regarding Infusions....could you explain 😄

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Welcome to the club ...don't be put off by my moaning ...I was doing so well

It's all about finding the right drug .

I had exhausted the DMARDS so I was put forward to try biologics.

This can be injectable or by infusion which means every 6 months I attend hospital and have the lovely drug pumped into my veins

It's been working wonders up to now .

you could be lucky and hit the jack pot early with your medication.

Fingers crossed 🤞

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Hope all keeps going well for you

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popsmith1874

I know what your saying about no retiring yet but there comes a time when your body tells you it's had enough, could you go part time as your job is demanding mentally and physically, I struggled for a couple off years then made a decision that I couldn't go on working and took early retirement, I'm 52 and I've never looked back I go swimming and to fitness classes most days and I can pace myself at a tempo I'm happy with and financially I'm not any worse off, I've got RA and am on methetrexate and Benepali, hope you get the help you need

Hi Fiona,

Your job sounds exhausting for a healthy person, let alone for one with RA. It's not an easy job either - both physically and mentally. I actually wanted to do it as it looks fun but I know a couple of flight attendants who say it's not as glamorous as I've assumed. Anyway, I've rambled sorry! I'm wondering if the fatigue is due to uncontrolled RA. How do you think things are for you - bloods wise and swollen joints wise? For some people, the extreme fatigue is a good sign that things aren't being well controlled.

I have plantar facsitis (sp?) and it's hideous. It doesn't help that you're probably on your feet lots. Can you look into insoles? They make a huge different to the pain and swelling. Also, icing the soles of your feet. Someone recommended rolling a very cold can of drink under my feet which cools it and does exercises which is meant to be very good.

Please don't be hard on yourself. You are doing well, amazingly well. 🌟 However, you have a disease with a mind of its own and I think accepting part-time work is a good compromise. My job is sedentary and I still had drop to 32 hours per week to enable a day off. I found it hard, like I was giving up. You know what though? It wasn't giving up or doing badly, it was accepting my limitations and has enabled me to continue working.

Fingers crossed that the infusion next month brings you some relief.

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Thanks for your reply

In my mind I think if I give up my job then it's (RA) has won . I guess I tried to be the person I was before ....and have got to realize I'm not . I miss the old me

Going to see how part time pans out and give myself time to recover from this before I even attempt to go back

I'm too young to feel this old 😩😩😩

On a more positive note ...it's not over until the fat lady sings 😂

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Nitrobunny

I had to quit leflunomide because after tolerating it well initially, I felt like I had the worst flu ever and had muscle weakness like I've never had in my life. I literally couldn't get out of bed. I finally went to the hospital and that's when the doctor told me leflunomide was the culprit. I felt 100% better within 4 days of quitting it.

I thought I had planter fasciitis but it turned out I had a disorder with one of my tendons in my ankle which caused a similar pain. I saw a podiatrist who really helped a lot with no surgery and no medication. Just some massage, a simple exercise and some custom orthodics that have made walking comfortable again.

Best of luck, I truly admire anyone who can put up with a cabin full of travelers with grace, a smile and diplomacy. I'll be the first to tell you I could not 😊

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Fifi2 in reply toNitrobunny

Ha ha gotta keep smiling :-)

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zebsky in reply toFifi2

I also was taken off Leflunomide It was a terrible drug

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Fifi2 in reply tozebsky

Maybe it is the leflunomide....but I've been taking it for a year now maybe it's accumulative

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Nitrobunny in reply toFifi2

You never know. I've had severe reactions to drugs that I had taken for months and even years with success. The reaction I had to the leflunomide really did come out of no where after I had been taking it for three months prior with no problems. I was really happy with it prior to the reaction which was akin to the worst flu I've ever had. Just body aches and zero energy.

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Winnie53

Whilst I'm sorry to hear about how many of you feel extremely fatigued I'm so grateful to hear all your comments. I too experience the all consuming tiredness that comes with RA and the medications. I sometimes feel such a wuss but hearing that others have the same experience is quite comforting. You can't explain it to someone who doesn't have RA or the meds can you?

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Fifi2 in reply toWinnie53

That's the problem !! Because I look fine get up and put my make up on

I don't look ill .....but inside I'm struggling.

You're correct in saying peeps don't understand unless of course they have it .

I was told once oh just relax in a hot bath 😂If only it were that easy .....

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AgedCrone in reply toFifi2

Not been able to struggle out of a bath for 10 years Fi!

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Mandalou

Hi Fiona

So sorry to hear you are under the weather and struggling. It's just so tough and I utterly sympathise.and relate.

My latest 8 weekly blood tests I had on Friday are text book, I'm lucky enough to have a GP surgery that plots them all on a graph so I can plainly see my bodies reactions to steroids/DMARDS/Biologics be it inflammation levels or white blood cell count or ALT etc etc.

So any Rheumy would say ' hey you are absolutely in remission '

Well, OK then but you just explain the pain, the agony in my feet, the 'toothache ' in my fingers, the lethargy etc etc etc.

I've been very depressed these last few weeks, really down and feeling I want to give up...... Not give up my job flying but just give up life completely. I will perk up but like you this disease takes its toll.

I hope 75% makes a big difference to you and perhaps stopping the Leflunomide too. Defo worth getting your iron levels checked, an up to date full blood count and your Vit D too.

I'm on Hydroxychloroquine and Benepali injections and lots of cider and vodka ( sort of joking, ha ha)

Got the hospital in August, will have a good old moan then about my pain.

Anyway, I'm very pleased you went sick. Last year after my initial 11 months off I got a chest infection and had to have another three weeks off. I've managed a whole year fit now but Its been very very hard.

You have done the right thing and must look after yourself.

Off to Phoenix this week, me and my knackered old feet. Wish me luck. Sending you all my very best wishes.

Love M X

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Fifi2 in reply toMandalou

Oh Amanda

It's such a bloody pain isn't it !

It can take it out of you this flying business ....hang in there .

I'm still in section 4 so hopefully this will be discounted .

Part time will hopefully make a big difference ...roll on September

Look after yourself and rest whilst down route !

Fiona xxxx

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