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Blood thinning meds?

I've recently had to stop taking aspirin because of acid reflux. Have tried clopidogrel and coated aspirin since but reflux persists. Stomach is much improved since stopping said meds. The reason I was taking aspirin was because of a mild heart attack 12 years ago. No issues since, but am a bit concerned that something might crop up in the future. Are there any other suitable blood thinning meds I can try? I was injected with fragmin during a couple of stays in hospital, but have my doubts if that would fit the bill?

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Only a doctor can advise you, I take Riveroxaban but certain you need to talk to a Haemotologist as it might klll you if you don't need it as its prescription only.

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Thanks m-l,

GP stopped naproxen first, which did seem to help a little, but reflux persisted. He then replaced aspirin with clopidogrel, which didn't improve matters any. Finally replaced clopidogrel with coated aspirin with same result. When I Iast saw him about 3 months ago, I told him that I was still having reflux and would have to stop taking blood thinners completely unless there was something else I could try. He replied that there wasn't anything else and that was that.

Just thought I'd check here if there was anything else I could take as I don't have a great deal of faith in my GPs.

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Riveroxaban is not a thinner like warferin, it works differently but estentially does the same as in breaks up clots. Ask about it, it is easy to take but expensive hence why you might have a reluncant GP.

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One of my GPs reckoned that naproxen was the sole cause of my reflux. When I asked if aspirin could be the cause as well, he said he didn't think it was to blame?! Another of my GPs seemed reluctant to give me clopidogrel... reason being that it was used mainly for strokes rather than a heart attack preventative. No idea if that is so? Anyway, I managed to get it off a different GP. Think I need to have a serious talk with my GPs in any case. I'll ask about riveroxaban when I do. Don't fancy my chances of getting a favourable response though if it is pricey.

No obvious problems with my heart workings when I had an angiogram at time of heart attack. If they'd found dodgy arteries etc then I'd be more concerned about not taking any blood thinners. That said, I'd still prefer to be taking something.

Thanks again

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wishbone, consider taking the old fashioned, well known remedy that has no known side effects, other than helping.

Apple Cider Vinegar for acid reflux and heart burn, it works within a minute or so for most.

ACV, must be organic and have 'The Mother' written on it for best results.

Prescription acid reflux pills, lowers your stomach acid, we shouldnt be lowering our stomach acid. Our food actually needs high acid, not low acid to break it down in the gut. It is the food that hangs around in the gut which is not broken down by the high acids it needs that causes the acid reflux and heart burn.

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I'm all for taking less meds if possible, managing with a lower dose of omeprazole than I was, so I'll definitely give CV a go. Something's telling me that I'm not going to enjoy the taste though! :-( :-)

Thanks Coastwalker

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Coastwalker, my wife is picking up some ACV with mother today. Can't find a recommended dose.. how much do you think I should take daily?

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Taste you get use to, for pleasant tasting ACV we found Willy's Biorganic with 'The Mother' was best so far. I take half a tablespoon in 2-3 oz of water, works within a minute for me, two mins at the most. Some take a tablespoon, I would start low first. Also apples are good for you.

Did you know that Omoprazole is a PPI (proton Pump Inhibitor,) and if you Google 'Are PPI's dangerous' you might be a little shocked, also I wouldn't touch aspirin with a barge pole myself. Omoprazole or acid reflux medications are also known to lower vitamin B12 or cause vitamin B12 deficiency, which in turn can start off so many other problems including gut issues, bone weakness, anxiety, depression and much more, a domino effect.

You mentioned blood thinners, idea to look into natural blood thinners maybe ? I believe vitamin E is a blood thinner, but only if you are not taking prescription thinners already. Google it yourself to be sure, there are other natural blood thinners out there. Also magnesium is good as it relaxes all muscles in the body including in our organs, good to relax heart muscles. The one we take is magnesium Taurate, that one is supposedly good for the heart especially.

For every prescription pill or illness there is an alternative natural cure you can take that has virtually no side effects, unlike prescription pills.

Also high dose vitamin D3 cures many ills and prevents most things, even keeps cancers at bay, turns around gut issues too. vitamindcouncil.com for up to date information of illness vitamin D3 helps and safe high doses which differ greatly to NHS doses. D3 has helped turn around so many symptoms and problems my husband and I had.

Vitamin D is of course the sunshine vitamin. :)

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My wife picked up a bottle of Bragg's ACV with the mother...here's hoping that it tastes delicious. ;-) I'll try some tonight diluted in my regular nightcap of Manuka honey which I take for UTIs.

A couple of questions - do you take a daily dose or just when you feeI you're about to have an attack? Presume that I'll have to stop my omeprazole when I start taking ACV? I take it that if it doesn't have a positive effect on my acid reflux after a few doses then it ain't going to happen?

Yes, I have heard that proton pump inhibitors can cause stomach issues of their own. Also read that ACV can help thin the blood, so hopefully it will be a case of killing two birds with one stone. I'll look into the other things you mention as well. Will let you know how I fare with the ACV

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I did use ACV originally for acid reflux, but now I add it to bicarbonate soda, (bicarb is another good one for acid reflux, would you believe, now I'm really confusing you more,) I add the ACV to the bicarb, let it fizz for a minute then add water, it helps to start my day, the bicarb helps alkalize the body, good for oxygenating cells, even turns around kidney disease, and so on.

Good luck with the ACV wishbone, I found Willy's ACV more palatable than Braggs, didn't screw my face up with it as I did the others, will get more once I finish the Braggs.

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Had my first bevvy last night. Tasted ok except the last mouthful at the bottom of the mug was a bit sharp!

Thanks again

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Did it work, did you get relief from the reflux wishbone ?

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Hmm, don't think it is working as I had slight indigestion last night. Also been getting sore throats this past two mornings. Doesn't bode well but not giving up quite yet as I was having the odd bout of slight indigestion previously. Was taking two teaspoons but will now try just one.

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Maybe you need a bit more water with the ACV (re your sore throats) ?

I find if I get indigestion, I take the ACV in water straight away.

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Was taking two teaspoons of ACV in a small mug of manuka honey water. What do you think about the same amount in a half pint of warm water? No manuka honey in it this time as I don't want to mess around with my current dosage, which seems to be helping fend off UTIs.

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Mm! Difficult to say wishbone, we are all different, what works for one etc., :)

Some mention that Baking soda can help keep UTI's at bay and baking soda is known to help acid reflux too, maybe that is another one to look into as it helps to alkaline our body.?

Baking soda, NOT baking powder. :)

Though I read you have to be careful how long you take baking soda for and give yourself a break every few weeks, but do check that yourself to be sure if you go down that route.

Everything is trial and error, but better to try than not at all. :)

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Unfortunately for me, I had had indigestion for most of yesterday despite taking ACV to stop it. Had to revert to omeprazole last evening. Goes without saying how disappointed I am, but it seems like ACV ain't going to do it for me. It's got me thinking that I might have an ulcer and that could be why it's not doing the trick.

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OH! that doesn't sound good wishbone.

Just read as I had an inclination on it - Baking soda neutralizes stomach acid and is a perfect remedy for ulcers, (Dr Axe suggests.)

Keep in mind and check/Google it yourself that Omeprazole is a medication that lowers stomach acid (not forgetting it can cause vitamin B12 Defciciency which can lead to all sorts,) and that we need high acid to break up our food, not low acid .

Google 'is Omeprazole dangerous' and troll down the page. PPI's are causing patients all sorts of problems, which then lead to another problem and another pill, but don't just take my word for it, check it out. Good luck.

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I know enough about omeprazole to not want to take it if possible. I've had enough issues with side effects from other meds in the past and hate taking the stuff. Will check out baking soda. Can't see that doing much harm, hopefully anyway. If that doesn't work for me, do you think it's safer to take ranitidine and gaviiscon rather than omeprazole?

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Oh! dear I am so the wrong person to ask wish bone, I have done much research and wouldn't touch any prescription medication or vaccine with a barge pole, yet I use to put my faith in them wholly.

I have learned how one illness leads down the path to another, I have been on one big learning journey, thanks to many in my family who have now passed and realizing only afterwards what really happened to them, their patterns of illnesses and the pattern of prescription pills, etc.,

Our body is either toxic or lacking in nutrition (soils are now depleted and we are lacking in vitamins and minerals, foods are messed up with added poisons, including our meats.) I'll let you guess the toxic one. For every illness and symptom there is always an alternative natural medicine out there as there always use to be many years ago when Drs back then knew how to cure us of our ills, in fact back then there were less ills, less cancers, less autism and so on, so why has it all sky rocketed ? Sky rocketed since more and more vaccines are pushed onto us and more and more medications too. Medicine and all illnesses, including cancer is Big Business, making big money out of us and keeping us all ill. If they cured us all, their big money would stop, I had no idea all this was going on till someone woke me up to it all, it turned my thinking of our medical system upside down.

We were given our planet, food and medicine, but now we are on what many call 'Rockefeller Medicine,' (do Google it :o ) Rockefeller had almost all natural healers and their outlets sadly closed down to push his own medical system onto us all. Most interesting reading about it , or can watch it on You tube video.

Another to look into is 'The Truth About Cancer' by Ty Bolinger who set out to find out why so many in his family died from cancer. I have learnt that cancer is now 97% curable and know people that have turned their cancers around, but sadly all hidden from us. Chemo and Radiation I would not touch with a barge pole. Most medical conditions can be turned around if we catch them in time, if we learn what to do, including Emphysema, COPD and asthma too, so simply. Even I cured myself of something painful my Doctor diagnosed me with, then said I would just have to learn to live with it. :) :)

Sorry for rambling on wishbone, but I feel it all needs to be told.

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No need to apologise. Looks like interesting stuff, but a bit too deep for me. Guess I'm the lazy type as far as researching my health issues are concerned and prefer the easy way of a simple yay or nay answer to my queries. Anyway, will have a look at baking powder and if that don't help then I'll do a little research into the risks/side effects of ranitidine, which is probably a safer option than PPI's.

Thanks for your advice and time Coastwalker, much appreciated.

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