I started seeing a dietitian, who told me to take one table spoon of cinnamon mixed with one table spoon of ginger twice a day??!
I’m afraid as i have gastritis and taking this amount of ginger i think will affect me.
She also told me to eat 4 eggs a day, and a yogurt.
Edit:
I want to Thank everyone who replied to me, you are all awesome and you were very helpful!!
I’m beyond grateful.
❤️
Why are you seeing a dietician? Is it for weight loss or for some medical condition?
Weight loss
As the others say, I don't see how it connects with weight loss. Did she give you any other advice about what to eat?
Was this dietitician recommended by a Doctor or ?
I've never tried this myself but believe it might be something known as Golden milk and another Admin IndigoBlue61 might know more about it? Here's hoping she can drop you a note. The recipes I've seen involve smaller quantities(1/4 tsp)
No it was recommended by women in my area, yeah i figured it’s too much, just wanted to know the opinion of more experienced people.
Golden milk is tumeric,milk and honey ... something I drink regularly it’s delicious 😋
Of course it is. It’s got honey it in. Which is sugar!
I never heard of it myself, that’s why i got skeptical
Yes i agree with you, one woman lost 13kg in 3 months!! I don’t think it’s healthy.
Thanks for your advices, appreciate it!!
I do not like the advice as described. Cinnamon and ginger? It sounds like an internet "one trick to lose belly fat" rather than actual nutritional advice.
But 13kg in 3 months. That's not crazy. NHS says 0.5 - 1kg/week. 52 weeks in a year, 3 months is roughly 13 weeks. Right on target.
I healthfully lost over 7kg in a month. Weight loss has stall, but losing another 7 in the next month would not necessarily be unhealthy.
Yes I can’t agree more, and i suffer from gastritis so ginger is too much for me anyway.
Okay thanks for clarifying, cause 13kg seemed extreme for me.
I myself lost 8kg in a month which wasn’t the healthy way thats why it seemed too much.
Good for you for losing weight the right way!!
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articl...
I have found a proper study that demonstrated that both rats & people reduced metabolic disease by eating lots of cinnamon. I don’t think it’s a substitute for a proper diet though...
Hello and welcome to the forum, Square251 
I agree, eating too little is probably the commonest reason for giving up.
There's plenty of support and information here and a good way to get involved is by joining a weekly weigh in on the day of your choice, and using the Daily Diary to share your meal plans. You'll find them, our Welcome Newbies post and all our other clubs and activities in Pinned Posts healthunlocked.com/nhsweigh...
Do some browsing, then join in with activities to get the most out of the forum
The yoghurt's good (no added sugar yoghurt).
And a couple of eggs sounds nice. 4 might get a bit monotonous.
Cinnamon and Ginger seems a bit 'faddy', haven't heard that one before.
Cinnamon, ginger, 4 eggs and yogurt. All reasonably on their own, but together a diet prescription that needs data to validate it.
If the dietician is NHS, I would question it. If they are private, then doubly so.
They are private!
Okay, she told me to have two eggs for breakfast along side with 2 Spoons of Cinnamon and ginger, and cooked vegetables for lunch and 1 sweetened yogurt for dinner also with 2 spoons of ginger and cinnamon.
Sack her now, if she is recommending sweetened yoghurt. Turn around and go. You are paying good money for someone to tell you to eat sugar? And to eat hardly anything at all- that must be less than 700kcals - ie a starvation diet.
I lost 20 lbs in three months purely by not eating sugar (carbs) with the exception of fruit - berries, apples and oranges. Cinnamon and ginger did not figure at all.
Wow, sweetened yoghurt? I'm on an NHS approved programme that is very particular about eating less than 5g/100g sugar and no added sugar wherever possible. And having 3 healthy filling meals per day (low carbs) with meat/fish and healthy veggies and fats.
It may be unwise to abandon professional advice simply based on internet opinion (we don't know the circumstances), but the reasoning seems to fly in the face of prevailing good advice and might merit a professional second opinion.
That’s a more measured reply, what she said!
Jesus! That's not a diet, that's an eating disorder. If it's a registered dietician, report them.
Yeah, if you stick to that you will lose weight. You may also end up malnourished, and your BMR will tank, but that's your future, and that dietician will be long gone.
Full fat Greek yoghurt - yummmm
It is nice. I've been enjoying the Fage 5%, and also Kvarg. If weight-loss is going well, I'll treat myself to a dash of double cream on the top. It's good to not have to treat fat as a 'disease' under a Low Carb High Fat (LCHF) diet.
If you're following LCHF, you can enjoy full fat yoghurt. In fact, my understanding is that you shouldn't have anything that's reduced fat.
That's not the plan I'm following. What does it matter if some foods I eat have reduced fat so long as that doesn't mean they have added sugar to compensate and so long as I am eating healthy fats as part of my diet?
Because fat fills you up & you are less likely to eat rubbish later. Because reduced fat products have much more milk sugars that behave like table sugar when they get into your blood stream. They prompt an insulin response, too much insulin over time prevents your appetite hormone working & so we eat too much & get fat.
Sure, I understand those principles, but we have to be realistic.
If I have milk I'll have whole milk. If there is a 'non-light' version (e.g. a 5% Fage yoghurt, I'll have that over the 0% yoghurt. (besides being on sugar watch (<5g) ).
However, supermarkets seem surprisingly obsessed over selling 0% fat foods (alongside the crisps and chocolate), it's sometimes hard to buy something else.
Given the choice, I'll go for the more filling option, but avoiding everything that has reduced fat can often be impractical.
I'm still losing an average of 1kg per week, so even if the diet is imperfect, it is working. 😊
Good for you. Sorry to teach you to suck eggs. I just like cream. Extra creamy cream with added cream...
Mmmmmm, cream
No issue, it's great to have the conversation - and you're right. I like the extra creamy milk, the gold top, and I'll sometimes have it as a treat, but LCHF still relies upon portion control, so whilst it may have healthy fats, I can't down litre bottles of the stuff.
I love olives, but on a different diet I'd get nagged at for both fats and salt content.
My main frustration is with food manufacturers and supermarkets. It should be easier to buy healthy food, but they seem to chase the fads. (what they can sell).
I'm sure only 20% of what supermarkets sell fits into my 'scheme' and in a Petrol station or corner shop, maybe only 5%.
I am not finding LCHF needs portion control because my reduced appetite is naturally doing that for me. I am just OFF FOOD. until I start shaking & sweating. Not helpful. But I know I am weird. I am finding full fat products in big Tescos & Waitroses though -15% fat beef, cheese, full fat Greek yoghurt. More examples of me being weird / living in my own little land of weirdness??
Though it is tricky. I just looked on the Sainsbury's site for a full fat, no added sugar yoghurt less than 5g/100g sugar.
After a bit of filtering and checking:
Of 440 yoghurts, the ones that meet my criteria:
8 (and some of those are pack size variations).
Fewer than 2% of the yoghurts on sale.
That's great - your weight loss. I know what you mean about it being difficult to get full fat yoghurt. I've looked for Fage full fat but no joy. Waitrose has an own brand full fat - No. 1 - and it is delicious. I seem to remember someone saying a couple of weeks ago that supermarket own brands tend to offer full fat, but I could be dreaming
Sometimes (not always) a full fat product will also have added sugar (>5g/100g) which is too much for me.
It's almost as if the manufacturers take the view:
They want to eat full fat, so they don't care: release the sugar.
(facepalm)
Haha, yes you need to check the small print!!
I just googled it and apparently the two spices work together to increase circulation and eliminate toxins. How is she suggesting that you take these? Wasn't there something going round the Internet about trying to eat a spoonful of cinnamon? 🤔
There will always be a reason to take something like this. Or at least a theorem. But show me the random control trial, or even a prospective trial that indicates it's true.
Oh, there may be one. I have got so used to half-arsed nonsense being propagate on the internet that I can't be bothered googling to see if either exists.
Excited to learn it's validated - if it is.
Oh, I can't tell if you are serious. Do you know what the cinnamon challenge was?
Wasn’t it loads of idiot teenagers (I’m allowed to say this, I have three 😊) trying to eat a spoonful of cinnamon? Pretty disgusting by all accounts but it’s ok as they’ve all gone back to perming their eyelashes now.
Yeah, that was it. It wasnt' because there was a health benefit, but because I was hard.
I wish I had enough eyelashes to perm.
Pmsl!!!
I truly don’t know, I didn’t question her cause i thought it was okay and she probably knows better, until my mom told me (2 spoons of ginger and cinnamon) is unhealthy!!
So i came here asking 🙈
I would be really surprised if it were unhealthy. They are just a plant. It just seems a bit unnecessary & ‘weird tip’ like. Can I suggest you check your dietician’s qualifications. Where did she study, does she have a degree and ideally a masters in nutrition or similar from a university that you have heard of.
I don't think "just a plant" means it's necessarily safe. Many plants are toxic as self defence, and those defences are often what we treasure in the plant (eg capsaicin, nicotine). Also unless she is chowing down on ginger root and cinnamon bark, then it's not a plant, it's a processed and refined version of the plant.
And remember, everything is a poison in a high enough dose, including oxygen and water.
Good point good point. Hemlock & deadly nightshade & poppies etc are also plants. I think the most dangerous thing though is that it’s being represented as a substitute for a healthy diet.
I found a RCT about ginger and cinnamon
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/267...
They didn't affect BP.
And this about cinnamon and weight loss
researchgate.net/publicatio...
It did not make any difference.
(these studies are not directly related, they are just all I could find)
If this is not a qualified person, please DONT...to me an old wives tale and could really do some damage xx
Slimming world! Lots of support and advice x
Well. Slimming world is not necessarily much better. It promotes a high carb low fat diet, which provokes insulin resistance - which is the reason we’re all carrying those extra pounds, even if we are not diabetic or prediabetic. A high carb diet stimulates too much insulin over time which prevents the hormone Leptin from working - leptin is the hormone that tells us we are not hungry because we have sufficient fat stores. If leptin does not work, our appetite goes crazy. Slimming world says you can have as much fruit as you like and everyone knows that many fruits have as much sugar as sweets. AND slimming world encourages all those little ‘treats’ or ‘Syns’ - if you are trying to stop smoking no one ever says to build in a cigarette a day in case you binge on a whole packet - sugar is addictive as nicotine for many people. AND what is this warped nonsense that says food is sinful - changing the I to a Y does not change the meaning. Cake is lovely but for many people it’s unwise. It’s not wicked. Does anyone actually know anyone who has lost weight on slimming world and consistently kept it off for a decade? No. You lose it. You put it back on & have to go back & pay them more money
Thank you for your opinion I’m grateful for the information, are you a dietician?
No, but I am informed and understand the biochemistry of metabolism. I can point you in the direction of sources by expert doctors and research that shows that high carb is counter to how our body works. However, if you are committed to the Slimming World approach, it may not be something you want to look into at this stage.
You can tell she's not a dietician, because she does not like SW.
SW follows the NHS' EatWell plate. It's the diet recommendation that has taken us from 7% obesity in 1980 to 30% now. But the NHS is still pushing it. It's like the diet that kept me obese for the last 10 years.
My neighbours went to SW. I was amazed by their weight loss. There were four of them, and they all looked amazing. I attempted to join the group, but I did not like the atmosphere (no judgement, it just wasn't for me) and regretfully did not join them. Recently I was out to dinner with them and I realised they had all put the weight back on - maybe even some extra. They all asked me how I lost weight!
Slimming World is good for initial weight loss. I don't think it's good for life change. And it promotes over processed foods often with added sugar.
Weight Watchers is a good example of dieting with short term results and a lifetime of losing weight while paying $each week to attend meetings if you don't lose weight. These companies aren't in business to help you with permanent weight loss.
Wow !
Not a fan? 🤔😏
No because it cruelly traps people in yo-yo dieting & leads deeply unhealthy behaviours around food... but not sure how you worked that out from my very measured reply 🤣
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Hi nit bern on since our last chat, spent my time researching this, your so right do where do I go from here? Pls help
Well done for researching. What help would you like? A meal plans? more info?
My suggestion would be to join a daily diary (they come up on the front page), say that you are starting lchf, describe your daily plan and also ask for advice. To get you started, stop eating bread, cake, pasta, rice, potatoes, crisps, sweets, any low fat dairy products (if you eat any of those things), and be generous with the full fat dairy and meat. Get used to looking at the carb values on ingredients, & ignore calories. Forget any idea of building in little treats or Syns - they'll trap you in cravings and hunger forever. Here's an idea of how you could start: Breakfast - eggs of any kind if you eat those, or bacon, sausages but check the meat percentage (you're aiming at 90%+) or berries and full fat greek yoghurt. I eat lots of seeds, like chia, linseeds and pumpkin with my breakfast yoghurt to give me lots of fibre. Mid morning snack of 10 almonds, or a piece of nice cheese. Lunch - big salad with lots of the protein and olive oil. Afternoon snack, another piece of cheese, or some olives. Supper: chicken breast wrapped in bacon, with masses of veg (only those grown above the ground) with lashings of butter. If you are hungry, eat. Just make sure its not at all carby.
I'd take this advice with a large pinch is salt!😂😂
4 eggs need at least 4 pinches of salt
I find ginger rough on my gastritis and eggs it makes me gassy. The cinnamon is ok but not that much I eat oatmeal plain with cinnamon and fruit. Oatmeal is a great breakfast full of protein and fills you up healing. If you didn’t have gastritus it wouldn’t hurt you to do that but she doesn’t have gastritus and dairy is a huge no for gastritus. I use rice milk and soft foods. Applesauce unsweetened and cooked kale spinach. Rough foods are not helpful in gastritus nor nuts.
I would suggest the oatmeal for lunch canned tuna with a bit of mayo to soften I use a vegan one one brown rice cakes and alfalfa sprouts makes two of them & chicken rice soup. For supper roast chicken take skin off eat it plain with cooked kale or spinach and brown rice or brown rice pasta. It’s real boring but it helps and weight friendly.
Ask for dietician’s qualifications.
Interesting. I have half a teaspoon of cinnamon on my chia porridge which helps my blood glucose control and I also like fresh ginger in hot water to relieve my acid reflux. The quantities you have been recommended sound over the top and possibly for the wrong reasons. You are right to question this.
That’s interesting. How does the cinnamon help your blood sugar control? What does it do and how?
Apparently cinnamon improves insulin sensitivity and also has plenty of antioxidants. There are lots of articles about it on the internet if you want to find out more. I've been adding it for years and have acquired a taste for it so just keep using it for flavour as much as anything!
Thank you. Increased Insulin sensitivity ought also to increase the sensitivity of leptin, the appetite control hormone. Have you found you’re appetite has shrunk as a result of eating cinnamon? I have cut right back on carbs to increase insulin sensitivity & found that my appetite has dropped dramatically. I am interested to know if cinnamon has the same effect?
No idea, really. My appetite comes and goes and the only thing I can say for certain is that when I avoid anything made with flour, my blood glucose control is excellent and my cravings definitely diminish. All the things I add to my usual diet (cinnamon, turmeric, coconut kefir, garlic for example) have come about over the years and are really an act of faith, based on stuff I've read along the way. My only rule is that anything I take has to be natural and not have side effects. And yes, I do read actual research findings, even if I don't remember the detail afterwards!
As everyone else has said I'd question the amounts and her qualifications. The best way to loose weight is sensible eating of fresh foods and with 4 eggs a day you'd soon become constipated and bored.
I used to think that’s what “eggbound” meant, but according to my more countryside knowledgeable friends who laughed, that is a condition that hens can suffer from 🤣
😂
I am reminded for some reason of this
OMG I remember that nearly made me sick watching film so won't watch again
Yes when having difficulty laying an egg but translated to humans as a lot of things have.
I also have heard cinnamon touted as a natural way to control glucose levels. I looked it up to find this:
According to heathline:
Cinnamon may help lower blood sugar and fight diabetes by imitating the effects of insulin and increasing glucose transport into cells (6). It can also help lower blood sugar by increasing insulin sensitivity, making insulin more efficient at moving glucose into cells.
How Cinnamon Lowers Blood Sugar and Fights Diabetes
healthline.com/nutrition/ci...
Have I got hold of the wrong end of the stick here? Do we want to transport more glucose into cells? Isn't that what contributes to us becoming chubby chopses? I thought we should be reducing insulin resistance??
Well. We don’t want excess sugar flapping round the blood either - that results in comas. Sugar (glucose) is taken up by the brain & muscles when we need it for a specific job. If we don’t need it, it goes to the liver to be converted to triglycerides - that’s fat to you & me. The obvious thing to me is to eat less sugar if we don’t want spare sugar in either our blood or fat cells. But hey. Why stop eating cake when you could eat cinnamon cake 🤣
Good, so I hadn't got it wrong. The key is excess glucose which us chubbies really don't need
Sorry, CC! I was out with Brexit. Slim_for_Good is right.
And, you are, too. Excess glucose is the problem.
Excellent response, Slim_for_Good! TY!
Good conversation opening my eyes loads !
The thing is, until very recently, blood sugar control was the only treatment for T2DM. Keep them eating plenty of complex carbs, give them insulin to get that sugar out of the blood again, and send them to the optometrist, nephrologist, cardiologist as organs inevitably fail.
The idea of reducing blood sugar by diet that is promoted by people like David Unwin and Jason Fung is actually revolutionary. Standard treatment is still stuffing the glucose into cells.
The study was clearly done to see how cinnamon could help with the standard care.
You're welcome
Sounds disgusting but then, I can't stand cinnamon or ginger. Why did she think it was necessary to put yourself through that? Also, eggs are full of cholesterol, I can't believe anyone would think that was a healthy addition to your diet.
We need cholesterol to transport energy around the body. If we don’t eat it, the body makes it. The dangerous thing for atherosclerosis are low density lipoprotein molecules that attach to the cholesterol molecules. It’s not fully established what causes low density lipoproteins, but it’s most likely to be fat formed by excess sugar - NOT fat that you eat.
I every day boil cinnamon sticks, ginger, cloves, cardamom to make a nice tea and drink at least seven cups a day adding some lemon. If they were effective in weight loss, I wouldn’t be dieting now.
I was going to ask if they had turned you into a supermodel....
😂😂😂 You are SO great!
Did this dietician give you any other advice about your diet? Did she ask what you're currently eating?
No, she didn’t, she just told me this: “ it will be a long journey so you need to lose 3kg a week” and then told me what to eat in a day, when i told her i suffer from chronic gastritis and probably shouldn’t consume Ginger ( because i did in the past which lead to me vomiting and having a bad stomach reaction) at which she told me “no, it’s okay and healthy”
She didn’t even prescribe any Vitamins or minerals.
Are you in the UK? I find that 'advice' very worrying.
No I’m not in the UK, and I’m starting to get worried too.
We tend not to have access to dieticians here in the UK, well not on the NHS I believe, which to my mind sounds a blessing if that's the advice you are being given. Have a good look at the options to help you lose weight that are available in this platform. The information is free. Decide which you feel you can stick to and accept that there is no magic wand. Good luck xx
3kg a week is even more ridiculous than the sweetened yoghurt thing. You are in the right place, we will look after you. Here’s my diet advice for you. 1) don’t stuff your face. 2) don’t eat sugar. 3) cut back on carbs especially refined carbs. 4) eat loads of veg. 5) don’t be afraid of fat, 6) eat when you are hungry. 7) lipsticks make good emotional treats, chocolates to do not, 8) keep coming here, we’ll look after you.
Thank you so so so much!!! I’m happy i came here asking a question and got a lots of help and support!!
Awesome diet advice thank you!!
Just to clarify a few issues discussed above, in the U.K. Dieticians have to be qualified and licenced, Nutritionists don’t, although they may still be helpful. This particular person who suggested this to you Sonia I doubt is either of this things, thank goodness you had the sense to question it!!!
Ps it is physically impossible to lose 3kg of fat in a week, some extreme diets may see you lose 3kg initially but it won’t be fat, 😊
Thank you for clarification!!!
I appreciate it, and I’m so glad i asked my question here, I’ve got a lot of support and advice!
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