Advice greatly appreciated

Ok so here goes,

After Christmas I got my boyfriend to take a photo of me in just my gym bra and shorts. When I looked at the picture I couldn't believe it was me, that I looked that big!!

We decided to fly out to Thailand (that's were I am currently) and do 6 weeks of Muay Thai training and exercise camp. My days go like this:

6.30-7.30am yoga

8-10am Muay Thai

11-11.30am fat blast

3-5pm Muay Thai

That's at least 5 hours exercise per day. I'm eating 3/4 very healthy meals. I eat carbs once a day or once every other day. Always brown rice or sweet potato! I eat loads of vegetables and get my protein with pork. I usually have a banana in the morning too but that's ok because I'm exercising right?

I've been working so hard for two weeks and the scales have not changed. Don't get me wrong, I feel great and my fitness level increasing! I spent a lot of money to come here and do this and I honestly don't think I could be doing anything more. does anyone have any advice please??? I really wanted/want to lose at least 1 stone here!

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  • Morning. Sound so lucky to be in Thailand, I'm on week 3 of weight loss and like you I feel so much better lots more energy and the scale moved 0.1kg. Was not happy. However (I get weighed at boots) I'm losing body fat mass (went from 40% to 33%) so even tho the scales are not moving my body is reshaping, have you lost any inches? Don't give up , enjoy yourself x

  • Hi Wanttobe52kilos. Zipping over to Thailand to sort yourself out is really impressive.

    I don't think you have anything to worry about here, for a number of reasons.

    Firstly, you've mentioned your weight but you haven't said anything about any measurements of your waist etc... If you haven't measured yourself previously, how do your clothes feel now?

    You are doing a lot of exercising. You've coupled that with a good eating regime (which is sensible) and its quite likely that what you're doing is converting fat to muscle (muscle being the heavier of the two). This goes back to my first point, that weighing yourself isn't the only indicator.

    Two weeks is a short space of time to judge things when you've changed your life so dramatically.

    I'd also add that unless you are questioning your instructors that you should seek advice from them.

    Good luck with it all... I'm not jealous :O

  • A pound of muscle weighs the same as a pound of fat. Muscles take up less space in your body which explains why your body shape changes but don't see a move on the scales. A pound is a pound 😀

  • Should have written density to avoid confusion.

  • I think you should stop eating the carbs; no rice, beans, sweet potatoes or bananas. Drink lots of water, continue to concentrate on dark green vegetables and healthy fats. Eat very little cheese, and nuts. Eat a variety of protein. After losing the weight, you can start very slowly reintroducing complex carbs back into your diet.

    I would also recommend taking a good probiotic, and perhaps a colon cleanse.

    Also, no coffee or caffeine. You need to clean your liver. Be sure you are taking a good multi vitamin, potassium 400 mgs,and magnesium 400 mgs. You should also buy a book about low carb diets, so you know what you are doing.

    Good luck.

  • P.S. I think your over doing it with all the exercise. I think you should do no more than a two hour work out a day max. Exercise the top part of your body one day and the lower part the second day. So your body has a chance to recover.

  • Hi and welcome, Wanttobe52kilos :)

    What will you do when you return from Thailand, will you continue to do 5 hours of exercise per day?

    Take a look at the Pinned posts section to the right of your screen (bottom if you're using a mobile), read the Welcome Newbie thread, then move through to the challenges, where we hope you'll find at least one that will appeal to you :)

    Move down to the Topics, to find a variety of threads, collated into specific topics for ease of access and we ask that you also 'file' your own threads, so that others won't miss your important news :)

    Have a look at the 12 week plan, as many people have been successful following it. Don't forget to take your starting measurements and a 'before' picture, as they can be very motivating on days that the scales refuse to co-operate :)

    We run daily weigh-in's and you'd be very welcome to join us. The threads can always be found in the Events section, to the right of the home page, bottom on a mobile.

    We've found that to get the best out of this community, we need to be active on the forum, as it's where we exchange information, get motivation and inspiration and make friends. We hope that you'll join us here, regularly, too :)

    It's only left for me to wish you well on your journey :)

  • I live in Thailand and you might be retaining water because of the heat, you sound as though you are doing everything else right, enjoy your time here :-)

  • Who is preparing your 3/4 meals a day out there? If you are not tracking your calories and macro nutrients then it is difficult to see if this is where the problem lies.

  • haha thats a bit drastic to fly out to Thailand to lose weight....have you seen how many gorgeous slim women we have right here.in the UK? that aside....i think you should try fasting and drinking a lot more water....she says....im trying to do this 5:2 thing diet...today Im going to snack on grilled fish and eat some freshly cooked spinach...perhaps one slice of bread. The problem with me is that my tummy starts growling pretty quickly if it hasn't seen food....hmmm perhaps I should just train it then..to expect less.... easier said than done! :D

  • Not too drastic. We travel a lot anyway. We have a lot of friends passing though so it's fun, then off to the Philippines to explore when all this crazy camp stuff is over. I've just got to keep it up!

    Wish you all the best with the 5'2 diet. I have a friend who lost a lot on that. Your body will adapt I'm sure and you'll get used to the 500 calorie days! Good luck 😊

  • I think there's some weird advice here and some weird comments too, so what if you've decided to work out super hard for a few weeks? What's this weirdness about slim women here in the UK? I would diisregard advice that follows such comments immediately.

    Ultimately you're doing a regime that's different to a straight up weight loss regime. You're training like an athlete, and when we do that, your body moves and adapts in a different direction than simple weight loss, and it requires different things.

    I agree with some of the posters here, it's most likely you're not losing weight because you're putting on muscle, so body fat measurements, and measurements of your inches becomes more relevant than just simple weight

    You SHOULD be eating some carbs with this amount of exercise, don't cut them out completely; do NOT fast right now; drink a lot of water, and yes do be mindful of calories if you can. If ultimately you can't control your calories that well because you're not preparing your meals and you don't have access to that info out there, don't worry about it. You're doing your cardiovascular system and your musculature the world of good (assuming the training is safe and you are being shown good form) and both are important for weight loss. So once you get home you'll be able to exercise hard, as well as controlling your calories yourself and it'll be even easier to attain your goals.

    This may not be the forum to get great advice for the kind of training you are doing. You need professional advice. If you want to keep up anything like this level of training when you're back I'd recommend a personal trainer (PT), not even necessarily weekly, maybe even just once a fortnight or a month to keep you focused and in good form. To that end it might be worth looking some up qualified PTs online who are local to your home now, and emailing them your question while you're still in Thailand. Most would be happy to give this kind of advice, as they might get a client out of it, and it's good word of mouth for them.

    [I'm not a PT by the way, so I have no personal interest in pushing that kind of service, I just think it would be a good idea. I'm a GP :) ]

  • Thank you so much for your comment. I intend to take all of your advice. 😊 Will start emailing PTs soon

  • Hello. Thailand body holiday sounds fab. Good for you.

    I watched a really good documentary this week on the truth about exercise. The programme took a middle aged couple in their late 50's and 60's who were couch potatoes and scored v v poor on their fitness tests.

    Initially the couple lost weight but became so didpondent as the weight they had lost they then started putting all back on but were sticking to the eating plan and exercise plan.

    When they were then re ' tested' their fitness levels has gone right up and their body fat has dropped and their muscle mass has increased hence the weight gain. So this does sound a similar picture to what yiur describing.

    The good news is that the more muscle mass you have the more calories your body uses to maintain the muscle and you become a natural calorie burner. So don't worry too much about the scales. Evaluate your progress by the tape measure and your clothes.

    Have fun.

  • I've actually never asked for advice online so I am blown away by the comments. Thank you all for taking time from you day to reply to me. I've taken a little advice from each of you. The best thing I got from it all was to not panic and it was most likely turning to muscle. With that new information, off I ran to my backpack and grabbed a pair of denim shorts that are much too small (I brought them on my 6 week venture as my goal) The great news is I can actually get the zip up now! My body is changing. Even if it's slight! I'm so relieved. Thank you. My boyfriend is also happy that I've stopped moaning now! Haha

    I'm so new to all of this. Wish I had done my body fat mass but I will do it first thing in the morning, better late than never.

    The food I'm eating is all really really healthy. It's a fighter street I'm living on. All Muay Thai and fitness camps with only healthy restaurants. Everything is cooked in coconut oil.

    I don't intended to keep up 5 hours training a day, that would be madness but I was hoping that if I get nearer my ideal goal and then work out 1-2 hours 6 days a week then I could possibly maintain it. Fingers crossed.

    I will 100% get a PT when I return home, that's great advice thank you. I'm feeling so much more hopeful now after reading these comments.

    I know this might not be the best website for me as I'm doing this intense training but I would love to be part of it anyway. The encouragement is great and I'd like encourage others! We've all got to stick together and shed this weight. 💪

  • Hmm, it could be that you are losing fat but gaining muscle. As well as weighing yourself, why not measure your waist and hips as well? They might be shrinking, which means fitting into your clothes better and looking better regardless of the weight on the scales.

    The other possibility, sadly, is that your 3-4 healthy meals a day might be giving you sufficient calories to fuel yourself without drawing on your fat stores.

    Yoga is great, but an hour's yoga won;t use up much more energy than an hour of sitting down reading. The 30 mins fat blast will burn some cals, but maybe around 200 or so, depending on how energetic it is, so it's not a licence for a bigger meal afterwards.

    I don;t know anything about muay thai - is that a vigorous type of exercise or more like yoga or body conditioning?

    Anyway, even if you are exercising a lot, if you are eating enough calories to fuel it, the scales won;t go down. So you could take a fresh look at your meals, and maybe adjust them - less carbs and more veg, to reduce the calories while still keeping a decent-sized plateful, which you certainly deserve to have after all that exercise.

    I hope that is of some help.

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