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england.nhs.uk/who-is-at-in...

This lists people with LD as at increased risk from Covid.

So why are poeple with LD excluded from having Covid vaccines this autumn? Most especially when their death rate from Covid is 3 times that of the general population?

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Jofisher

They better not be otherwise we will fight that one, I will check this out. Mencap moderators if this is correct Mencap need to be doing something to highlight this as we did last time and got somewhere and people with LD were given it so that should be the case this time. More than happy to help like I did before.

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Bergersil400 in reply to Jofisher

My daughter will be going for her Covid vaccination next week. When she got her invite for flu vaccination the surgery sent a text to say if want covid vaccination it can be done on the same day, just give them a ring.Maybe not been publicised enough this year, but just said on BBC breakfast the roll out is going to be put forward by 3 weeks due to new variant.

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Jofisher in reply to Bergersil400

That’s good to hear also make sure your loves ones are on the disabled register at your doctors

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Bergersil400 in reply to Jofisher

We are thanks. We have booked flu vaccinations for 30th September. Might have to go elsewhere for covid test due to surgery not doing them since last year. Probably check our local hospital like last year.

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Jofisher in reply to Bergersil400

Try 119 or your surgery should know who to call

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Bergersil400 in reply to Jofisher

Will do so thanks

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Pot-0f-Coffee in reply to Jofisher

My son is being denied it 😭😡

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Maurice_MencapPartner in reply to Jofisher

Hi Jofisher , have replied elsewhere on the thread but just to confirm, we've been told by NHS England that people with a learning disability are eligible for the Autumn booster.

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Jofisher in reply to Maurice_Mencap

That’s good so we need to understand why some are being denied and who to go to if that happens

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Pot-0f-Coffee

Sorry, death rate should read '30 times higher' .

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Tracemoz in reply to Pot-0f-Coffee

Where have you got this information from

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Pot-0f-Coffee in reply to Tracemoz

gov.uk/government/news/peop....

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Pot-0f-Coffee in reply to Tracemoz

Sorry for late reply, only just seen your question.

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Maurice_MencapPartner

Hi Pot-0f-Coffee , we have heard from NHS England that people with a learning disability are eligible for the Autumn Covid booster vaccine.

We've made an easy read guide to the information we've been given here: mencap.org.uk/easyread/autu...

The information is buried quite deeply in the government's official guidance, in what they call "The green book" in chapter 14 - here's a link to the super long PDF... assets.publishing.service.g...

But the important thing is that it clearly states that people with profound and multiple learning disabilities, Down's syndrome, or people on the learning disability register with their GP will receive an invitation to get the booster. So now would be a good time to make sure loved ones are on the learning disability register with their doctor.

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Jofisher

I have no idea but this needs looking into and quick I would go to my M.P. And anywhere else to make sure my loved one got it

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Pot-0f-Coffee

Found the relevant pages - 29 and 30 - which refer to Table 3 on page 23. Chronic neurological desease is our section!

And I have phoned the pharmacy where we were denied it previously and they are now able to vaccinate our son along with ourselves, his parents. Yay!

Thank you so much Maurice!

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Maurice_MencapPartner in reply to Pot-0f-Coffee

Fantastic news! A little info goes a long way sometimes, and sometimes the communications from the NHS take a little while to filter down to everyone.

And just so you're aware, people with a learning disability are also eligible for the Autumn flu jab too, and so are carers. 🙂

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Sugar59

Why would you believe that? Realistically, what would make "people with LD be at increased risk from COVID"???

Be careful about what you allow to be injected into your and your loved ones bodies...

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Tracemoz in reply to Sugar59

Thank god someone sensible on here no way would I let my son take that crap he is healthy and doesn’t need it

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BenjiB

Agree. Makes no sense. My son is very healthy, always has been. He has no medical issues at all and hasn’t seen a doctor for illness for over 20 years. He’s 24! Why he’s more at risk than the next person is beyond me. He wouldn’t let anyone inject him regardless so that is taken as his choice not to have it.

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Tracemoz in reply to BenjiB

It’s like people have had their eyes closed for the last three years the risk from taking this stuff far out ways getting a bad cold

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learner01 in reply to BenjiB

You are very wise. Young men are vulnerable to suffering from myocarditis as a vaccine complication.

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BenjiB in reply to learner01

He’s completely vaccine free up until a few years ago when he was given the first covid vaccine. Unfortunately without deputyship I was powerless to stop it. I know he wouldn’t have willingly let them do it though.. Thankfully where he lives now they take his “no” when shown the needle as his refusal.

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Hissone in reply to BenjiB

I am the same I don't have dutyship for my son ,so difficult

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learner01

Please please do some research on the vaccines before having another one. There are many doctors and scientists raising concerns about their safety and effectiveness both here and abroad. And many people have been injured by them and even died from adverse reactions. Here are links to articles by Dr Aseem Malhotra a highly respected UK cardiologist.

insulinresistance.org/index...

insulinresistance.org/index...

And he is not the only one raising concerns. Dr David Cartland is a UK GP. Dr Peter McCullough in the US and many others around the World.

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Pot-0f-Coffee

All of us have now been Flu and Covid vaccinated as of yesterday evening. Such relief! Thank you Maurice and thank you modern medicine :)

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Jofisher

Speak to his GP speak to Mencap and anyone else involved in your sons care and I would even consider going to his MP don’t leave any stone unturned to get what he needs

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outdoorsy1

really glad you managed to get the vaccine - well done. We had an issue with our health centre who said my son was only eligible for the flu jab, but not the covid jab, even though he is on the LD register at that practice. the annoying thing is they were more then happy for me to have it on the grounds I am a carer... how bonkers is it that they will vaccinate the carer but not the person being cared for...the daft thing is, he had already had it a few days before, at a walk in clinic where they didn't argue for a second....

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Pot-0f-Coffee in reply to outdoorsy1

Glad you got him vaccinated despite your health centre's refusal. On what grounds did they refuse him the jab? If he's on the disability register then he was eligible!

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outdoorsy1 in reply to Pot-0f-Coffee

we didnt get that far - I said well that's funny cos he had it at the big walk in centre.... that kinda took the wind out of their sails. Saying that if he hadn't had it I would have kicked up a huge fuss demanding they explain their stance and he would have got it :) the thing that annoys me is without me to shout his corner.. he would go without . And THIS is , in my opinion, why people with LD have suffered more from covid than others, because lots don't have someone shouting for them.

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