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roseabiUltramarathon
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Hey everyone!

I write this surrounded by a howling gale, how's things where you are? πŸ₯³πŸ˜‚ And how is your running going?

I got a new "gadget" recently! Not sure if that's an accurate word for it really though. It's a continuous glucose monitor (CGM) for use by sporting people to try and figure out their "fueling strategies" by monitoring glucose availability. It's a biosensor that sticks a little filament under the skin and sends information about blood glucose levels to an app - it's by a company called Supersapiens. It was offered as a freebie by the London Triathlon, so I thought I'd give it a go!

Tbh I feel a bit conflicted about this thing, because the technology was developed for diabetics, who have no choice but to monitor their blood glucose levels. Healthy athletes, it seems to me, do not need to do this! It's maybe a case of tech for tech's sake - and expensive too...

But anyhow, it's pretty interesting so see what happens when I eat something or do some exercise πŸ€“ I haven't been for a run with it yet - I applied it on Saturday, but it's supposed to last for two weeks, so there's plenty of time. I'm also wondering how many people will notice it on my arm, since it looks pretty outlandish as you can see in the pic πŸ˜‚ The actual biosensor is pretty small and unnoticeable, but I have put one of the offered "performance patches" over it to help keep it in place. Looks like a target on my arm, or a weird tattoo!

I know a lot of us are already following our blood pressure, sleep, steps, etc. Are you hooked on data or not so fussed?

Anyway, whatever you're up to this week, have a great one!

The Marathon Team xxx

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RunWillie profile image
RunWillieMarathon

That’s a very cool gadget roseabi πŸ‘πŸ»

I’m still trying to work out how to fuel longer runs! Tried Tailwind for the second time today on my 8 miler and it made me feel a little sick.

Been checking out marathon plans for next year. Hal Higdon Novice one looks good. Any thoughts? I’m running 5-6 times a week up to 30miles weekly.

Happy running everyone β€οΈπŸƒβ€β™€οΈπŸƒπŸ»β€β™‚οΈ

roseabi profile image
roseabiUltramarathonβ€’ in reply toRunWillie

I did my recent marathon with only gels - never done that before, but it was fine!

I think the Hal Higdon plans are pretty solid xxx

RunWillie profile image
RunWillieMarathonβ€’ in reply toroseabi

Thanks roseabi 😍

I’ve got a mix box of Maurten fuel coming which has gels and drinks so going to keep trying different things. What gels do you use?

roseabi profile image
roseabiUltramarathonβ€’ in reply toRunWillie

I had Science in Sport and High 5. The SiS ones were OK, easy to open and the orange ones tasted nice - the cola ones not so much, but at least they had caffeine πŸ˜‚ The High 5s tasted very nice but they ended up more on the outside of my body than on the inside πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚. Both brands were the kind that don't need to be chased down with water which was convenient.

RunWillie profile image
RunWillieMarathonβ€’ in reply toroseabi

Sorry roseabi ! One more question from the rookie. I normally use nunn sport for hydration as it’s hot here. If I’m using gels to test on my longer runs would you just hydrate with water?

roseabi profile image
roseabiUltramarathonβ€’ in reply toRunWillie

Water's fine xxx

RunWillie profile image
RunWillieMarathonβ€’ in reply toroseabi

Thanks roseabi 😍

Irishprincess profile image
IrishprincessAdministratorHalf Marathonβ€’ in reply toRunWillie

I really enjoyed the Hal Higdon HM plan I’ve just done and if I was ever to consider a FM then I’d look at his plans first. Let us know how you get on!

RunWillie profile image
RunWillieMarathonβ€’ in reply toIrishprincess

Thanks Irishprincess 😍

Still need to get more running miles on my legs but hopefully will be ready once our Summer is over 😎

RunBrianRun profile image
RunBrianRunHalf Marathon

Hi Roseabi and thank you for hosting the chat this week.

I’ve seen quite a few of those this summer. A diabetic friend has one too and it has made a massive difference to his quality of life. I think you can get other ones that monitor all kinds of stuff too.

I’d try one because I’m really interested in improving performance and seeing how my body works during a run but in I’m not sure I’d want it stuck in my arm for too long. πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ

roseabi profile image
roseabiUltramarathonβ€’ in reply toRunBrianRun

Hi Brian! It's a pleasure 😊😊😊

How's the ankle?

I'm glad your friend has found it so helpful! Sticking those things in the arm is a little alarming - there was some blood...

RunBrianRun profile image
RunBrianRunHalf Marathonβ€’ in reply toroseabi

😱 😬

RunBrianRun profile image
RunBrianRunHalf Marathonβ€’ in reply toroseabi

I’m going for a very short jeffing run later today to see how it is. I’m no longer feeling it like I was a week ago. Back is still a little dodgy so I’ll just take it easy. 😬😊

roseabi profile image
roseabiUltramarathonβ€’ in reply toRunBrianRun

Improving 🀞🀞🀞

RunBrianRun profile image
RunBrianRunHalf Marathonβ€’ in reply toroseabi

Yes thanks 😊 looks like things are on the mend πŸ˜€. Also, Could you please consider writing a post about your implant and how get on with it? I would be very interested to hear any feedback you have πŸ‘πŸ˜€

roseabi profile image
roseabiUltramarathonβ€’ in reply toRunBrianRun

Yes OK! 😊😊😊

Irishprincess profile image
IrishprincessAdministratorHalf Marathon

Ooh, that looks like target practise! Let’s hope no-one takes an aim at you 😱Sounds very interesting but I think I’d be too distracted with that on my arm and keep fiddling with it. How does it cope in the shower?

Apart from my Garmin I don't use any other gadget. As long as I’m still breathing and fit and healthy I’m happy πŸ€— simple pleasures πŸ˜‚

First recovery week done after Bristol and so only a few short, slow runs. I’m in Ireland and it’s always lovely running somewhere different 😍

Have a good week everyone x

Ireland running
roseabi profile image
roseabiUltramarathonβ€’ in reply toIrishprincess

It is hard not to fiddle with it πŸ˜‚ I'm finally getting out for a run soon, so I will try not to get shot at! It's fine in the shower, though it feels unpleasantly clammy for a short while afterwards πŸ€”

Looks beautiful there, have a lovely time!! xxx

roseabi profile image
roseabiUltramarathonβ€’ in reply toroseabi

Well I went for a run, but I completely forgot I was wearing the patch, and didn't notice anyone noticing me πŸ˜‚

nowster profile image
nowsterMetric Marathon

It looks like one of the machine interface ports from the first Matrix film!

Curiously the day I did my Half Marathon distance I only ate six jelly babies and the fluid I had with me was a zero calorie orange squash. I did have two large slices of buttered toast about an hour before and had had a large meal the previous evening.

roseabi profile image
roseabiUltramarathonβ€’ in reply tonowster

Yes it does πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚

cheekychipmunks profile image
cheekychipmunksHalf Marathon

Hi roseabi! Ooo, funky! Knowing my luck with gadgets it would end up being more of a faff for me personally. I don’t even like taking water or snacks on runs - the faff! My Garmin is on 24/7 though, and my phone is always by my side or in a pocket, so I guess I am a bit gadgety in some respects!

I ran very little last week. Post Bristol HM recovery and grandchild number 2 arriving meant I only did a 3k! However, I did 5k yesterday (humid πŸ₯΅) and 10k today (windy πŸ’¨), so I’m not letting myself slack. GSR is too close for that! Arghhh, I must get back to yoga though. πŸ™„ My time is being stretched and that’s what I’m sacrificing. 😩

roseabi profile image
roseabiUltramarathonβ€’ in reply tocheekychipmunks

Awww you can't do everything! Don't worry, just do what you can and enjoy your family - congratulations for the new grandchild xxxxx

cheekychipmunks profile image
cheekychipmunksHalf Marathonβ€’ in reply toroseabi

Thanks, he’s definitely worth missing a few runs for! πŸ’™πŸ’™

Reggiegirl profile image
Reggiegirl10 Miles

I carry out clinical trials for the performance of continuous glucose monitors and they are great for diabetics. It’ll be interesting to see if you derive any useful info from it. They do lag behind blood glucose so it’s best to take readings about 20-30 minutes after you’ve eaten. Looking forward to seeing how useful it is πŸ€“

roseabi profile image
roseabiUltramarathonβ€’ in reply toReggiegirl

How cool! xxx

The left hand image in my collage seems to show that I had a spike about half an hour after I finished my lunch, so I suppose that tallies with what you are saying?

I am really not sure I will get anything very useful from it though! I'm a bit annoyed with myself for not getting it installed in time for my marathon actually, I think that might have been more interesting. Still, I have another one...

David_G profile image
David_GMetric Marathon

Hi roseabi I’m not sure I’d go as far as getting one of those unless it was medical reasons.😳I’m training for the GSR (along with many others on here!) πŸƒβ€β™‚οΈπŸƒβ€β™€οΈ So far I’m up to 12K and aiming to run either 13K or 14K on Wednesday then maybe 15K next week🀞

I haven’t felt the need to use any gels so far, but I do use Torq gels (which I think you suggested many moons agoπŸ€”) and occasionally some water.

Once the GSR is out of the way I’ll aim to build up again to HU distance in time for the HU Autumn challengeπŸƒβ€β™‚οΈπŸ˜Š

roseabi profile image
roseabiUltramarathonβ€’ in reply toDavid_G

I did like the Torq gels, but I've kind of gone off them a bit - that seems to be the way it goes with me and gels πŸ˜‚

Well done David! Enjoy your training!!! xxx

Cmoi profile image
CmoiMarathon

That's an interesting piece of body adornment roseabi !

The more I run, the more I hate data and performance metrics. I use the free version of Strava, only wear my Forerunner 45 for running, and don't use other gadgets.

This isn't out of some sort of technology phobia, or rejection of the science, it's simply that measuring the success of my running in terms of numbers doesn't work for me. I've realised that it'd be way too easy for me to get obsessed with the data, so now I prefer to reflect upon the overall experience. I can almost guarantee that if I enjoy a run, Garmin will hate it. I see no point in making myself miserable just to up my V02Max by a fraction, or to shave a few seconds off a PB.

I didn't really bother about hydration or fuelling until I was running 10+ miles in warmer weather. Obviously I've had to take it more seriously for the trail marathon training; still can't do gels though. We're required to carry an emergency food supply, so I'm likely to be heading out with Decathlon almond paste bars, honey-and-salt cashews, choc-and-nut mix, and mini saucisson! According to the race website, feeding stations will be offering such items as water, cola, Gruyère cheese, sweet and savoury biscuits, bananas, oranges, and chocolate. I just hope I don't arrive so late that everything's been scoffed!

roseabi profile image
roseabiUltramarathonβ€’ in reply toCmoi

That's very restrained of you! 😍

All that food sounds lovely!!!! Enjoy your marathon eating training 😊😊😊

cheekychipmunks profile image
cheekychipmunksHalf Marathonβ€’ in reply toCmoi

Ok if I skip the marathon part but come along to your feeding stations for a feast Cmoi ? πŸ˜‹

misswobble profile image
misswobbleMarathon

Ooh natty! πŸ˜ƒ. I hope it gives you some useful insights. Does it itch?

I’m not fussed about data apart from how far I’ve run πŸƒβ€β™€οΈ

I did my half marathon yesterday. It was very hard and I’m knackered today. I am finding it hard to walk πŸ™„.

aliboo70 profile image
aliboo70Half Marathonβ€’ in reply tomisswobble

Well done MW hope you are giving yourself a bit of R and R xxx

misswobble profile image
misswobbleMarathonβ€’ in reply toaliboo70

Hi shug πŸ˜ƒπŸ˜˜. Yes thank you πŸ‘

roseabi profile image
roseabiUltramarathonβ€’ in reply tomisswobble

It's been a bit itchy on and off, not too bad, but I'm sort of expecting it to leave a red mark behind πŸ₯ΊπŸ˜‚

Well done for the HM! How are you feeling today?

xxx

misswobble profile image
misswobbleMarathonβ€’ in reply toroseabi

Rubbish! I’ve not run at all. I am going to attempt a jog in a mo πŸ™‚

I deffo know I had a tough run 😀

roseabi profile image
roseabiUltramarathonβ€’ in reply tomisswobble

Gosh if it were me I'd just put my feet up! 😊😊😊

misswobble profile image
misswobbleMarathonβ€’ in reply toroseabi

I wish I had! 😫

aliboo70 profile image
aliboo70Half Marathon

That gadget looks intriguing Roseabi!I've only just upgraded from my 6yr old basic garmin to one with heart rate data and find that interesting . Mainly I just like seeing the km splits!

Life seems to have got in the way the past week so tomorrow will be my 1st run for a weekπŸ˜’but hoping for a bit more activity and might even head to parkrun on Saturday. Ours has moved cos iow festival took over and is now more of a hike to get to but on plus side is at the seaside. 😁Did do horseriding last Saturday so rediscovered some long lost muscles!

Me and my partner have signed up for 10k race for life in Southsea end of October so something to train for a bit and a change of scene! Have a good week everyone xxx

roseabi profile image
roseabiUltramarathonβ€’ in reply toaliboo70

Hope you get to the parkrun! I have completely failed to do that so far πŸ˜‚

Horse riding wow! How long since you were last on a horse?

Enjoy your training xxx

aliboo70 profile image
aliboo70Half Marathonβ€’ in reply toroseabi

Did a beach ride for my pals birthday a year ago to the day! This one was a bit faster on a speedy horse!

My ride out on saturday
roseabi profile image
roseabiUltramarathonβ€’ in reply toaliboo70

😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍

misswobble profile image
misswobbleMarathonβ€’ in reply toaliboo70

Aw well done Ali! You’re a talented lady for sure. Beautiful photo πŸ˜ƒπŸ‘

Decker profile image
DeckerUltramarathon

That’s interesting tech. I’ve read about it but doubt I’d ever use it myself. It’s certainly not subtle on the arm is it? How does it feel? 😁I got my last Suunto watch on sale and it’s older and simple. Just like me. No HR monitor, just pace and distance. There is a barometer also to let you know a storm is coming but I’ve never used it πŸ˜…. I fuelled my last 40 on nutella dinner rolls and tailwind. It seemed to work well that day. No danger of glucose dropping when you are scarfing Nutella sandwiches every 10k πŸ‘πŸΌπŸ˜…

roseabi profile image
roseabiUltramarathonβ€’ in reply toDecker

It was a tiny bit sore for the first day, but I don't notice it much now - although I think I might try it on the other arm next time. It's on my left arm and I sleep mostly on my left side, and I feel a bit too conscious of it at night.

My watch has a barometer too, and I also have never used it πŸ˜‚

Love the idea of Nutella dinner rolls, great tip! 😊😊😊

linda9389 profile image
linda9389AdministratorMarathon

Ooh looks scary and interesting all at once! I've gone off data a bit ... mostly because mine is all going in the wrong direction! Never mind, I'm currently running three times a week again so mustn't complain. As for the weather? Been sat in my work vehicle for over half an hour waiting for the rain to stop. There's rain and there's rain ... and I ain't working in this rain!!!

roseabi profile image
roseabiUltramarathonβ€’ in reply tolinda9389

Lol! Tough Mudder anyone? πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚

Fully understand your conflict, but I guess it can indeed be helpful for athletes in regards to their fueling. I skip though, I don't feel an athlete and for a lil runner like me it would just be a waist.

I do am thinking about my fueling though. I have now done 3x10K and 1x11K and my hope is to someday reach the 10 miles. So far I have just been using gel-jellies. It's a package of jellies from the same company that makes gels, but it takes 5 jellies to equal the fuel of 1 gel. I am now taking 1 jelly every 30 minutes. But I guess that won't be enough for those distances over 10K? Something to figure out.

My Garmin is on my wrist 24/7 except in the shower / bath. I do synch my watch every morning and look at how much I slept according to Garmin (which is absolutely not accurate I think) and my body battery (which I think is pretty much accurate). And I like seeing my heartrate, cadence, pace and such after a run. But I'm not really doing anything with those stats. It's just fun to look at I guess...

roseabi profile image
roseabiUltramarathonβ€’ in reply to

My Garmin almost always tells me I've slept for around 9 hours - if only that were true! πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚

β€’ in reply toroseabi

Yeah, I guess Mr. Garmin sleeps more than we do? 😜

roseabi profile image
roseabiUltramarathonβ€’ in reply to

We make him work so hard! πŸ˜‚

β€’ in reply toroseabi

πŸ€ͺ

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