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herbie1966Half Marathon
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Just done run 1 of half marathon training found that i ended up jogging too fast did the 2.3k in 3.27 min/km 7:58 min which is lot faster than the 9.20 min/km the programme says, if i went at that pace i would only be walking. Do i just carry on with the pace i've done

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C3PO profile image
C3POMarathon

I would. And I do - I'm not fast by any means, but there's no way I'm going to voluntarily run at that sort of pace.

Lordi profile image
LordiMarathon

Try 5:30 or 6:00/km. Some of the jog paces on Asics plans are glacial but it's supposed to be good for the legs on slow jog days. The slowest I can possibly run without running on the spot is about 7:00. Asics plans have faster runs later coupled with much longer distances.

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roseabiUltramarathon

9.20 min/km is really slow, what data did you put into the plan? Surely you can run a 5k in under 20 minutes?

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DeckerUltramarathon

I don’t know that I’ve ever run the pace asics asks for :). If you keep going fast it eventually sends you an email to speed up your runs in the next phase.

Lordi profile image
LordiMarathon

Why did you run 2.3km? I think that's too short to give sensible pace data -it's a sprint if you run it as fast as you can (3:30-4:00 for many reasonably able/fit runners). Try running aI 5k or better a 10k at a comfortable pace (so you could chat with another runner) then plug that into the Asics training plan generator. It might still churn out quite a low paced recover jog pace but it won't be assuming you are Mo Farah for later runs and asking you to run 18km at 20km/h. ;-)

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AnniemurphHalf Marathon

Asics is notoriously slow in the first phases. It will speed up, don't worry, but I don't know anyone who has managed to keep to its suggestions in the first few runs. Just go slowly for you and stick with it.

My issue was that it told me that this was the 'conditioning' phase, but I was already running regularly so felt I was already relatively conditioned. I think within two or three weeks it picked up, so don't worry.

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misswobbleMarathon

If you’ve crunched your numbers correctly, go with the plan. The notes which accompany your plan are clear about what the training phases are. Have you read the notes? If not, do so,as they explain why you’re running slow. Slow running builds legs. This is the conditioning phase, hence slow!

It’s only a short phase. You’ll be asked to speed up in due course, as per your plan. You’ll then be begging for mercy 😃😁👍🏃‍♂️

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LordiMarathon in reply tomisswobble

I am certainly looking forward with trepidation to my Asics plan pre race runs where it optimistically thinks I will be able to run 18km at 5:15. There is no way in hell I can believe that at this stage of my training. Its target race day pace of 5:05 also looks nutty...but I will carry on with the plan for now as I'm not falling behind on the pace specifications (yet).

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misswobbleMarathon

Did you do the input properly. It can only crunch the stats you entered, eg previous race time. I hope you’ve gone for the “easy” plan. Tell me you have !

The easy plan is really hard! The other two are off the scale ! Don’t take on too much too soon and hurt yourself will you

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herbie1966Half Marathon in reply tomisswobble

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roseabiUltramarathon in reply toherbie1966

I haven't been able to reproduce your plan with those 3.2km runs, but I suspect you selected 'To improve my skills' from the 'Why are you training' screen, and then said you would like to run a Half marathon, and that you can currently run for 30-60 minutes. I suggest that you start a new plan, and tell it you can currently run 5k (or 10k if you've done that).

Further, if you want to set yourself a time you would ideally like to complete a half marathon in, when you set up the new plan select training 'For a race', give a date for the race (you can make that up if you don't have a race booked), and then input your usual time to complete 5k (or 10k) as directed. This should give you a more useful plan to follow.

You can also choose the number of runs you'd like to do per week, and the difficulty of the plan (easy, medium, hard).

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herbie1966Half Marathon in reply toroseabi

Thanks for your advise i've restarted the plan and it more useful. 5k jog 10.18min/km

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roseabiUltramarathon in reply toherbie1966

That's still really slow - what 5k (or 10k) time did you put in?

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Rignold

I'm not sure I would describe 5min/mile pace as jogging at all. If you can sustain that pace you would finish your HM just 4 mins short of the women's world record.

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John_WMarathon in reply toRignold

That's what I was thinking! :-)

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John_WMarathon

3:27 min/km ?? Were you, errr... out of breath after that?

What's your usual time for a 5k parkrun?

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LordiMarathon

I see from your earlier posts that you were doing 37 mins for 5k a few months ago prior to your Cardiff 5k. Plug 30 mins (or whatever your normal 5k time is, or a 10k time would be even better) into Asics and it should churn out something more sensible. The screen shot above makes no sense (early preconditioning distances are way too short). The plan would usually start with 5k slow, jog, 6k, 8k long run, that sort of ballpark.

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WhatsappHalf Marathon

I gave up with myasics - runs either too fast/ too slow and too many running miles in build-up.

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mrrunUltramarathon in reply toWhatsapp

I give up on anything that tells me what I should and how I should do it. I use those things as general guidance only or else I would go insane. What does that thing know about me? Exactly.

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