Losing hope

[Mini79]

Hello please can anyone help . I have had 10 miscarriages and going through another one and have had 1 still birth . All my bloods and tests come back normal but I always seem to lose the baby at 5 week plus always saying baby stopped growing and no heartbeat. Why is this happening I dont know . I am 40 years old and hubby 42 . I am losing hope now . This pregnancy was ivf first cycle and the worst ever miscarriage I'm going through . Please can someone help . I do not have time on my side .

[daisyd]

Bless you so sorry for all you have been though, I expect you have been tested for antiphospholipid syndrome (sticky blood) but if not you definitely need to be. I can’t think of anything else except to say wishing you luck

[Mini79 in reply to daisyd]

Hello daisy

Yes I have been tested for that and came back negative but I was put on aspirin and tinzaparin injections. Luck is definitely what I need . Thank you

[Karinyaa]

I'm so sorry to hear this. Being quite ripe age both we gave a try icsi shot. Though were told beforehand own eggs were not going to work out. They were of extremelly poor quality & count. But we did hope we'd catch that veryone, but failed. Actually not failed to conceive but to keep the pregnancy. I miscarried early. Dr told us it was due to my egg quality and that we could have avoided it if went donor egg route. Dh thought it would be nice to have some break to heal physically and emotionally. And to think what were the next steps going to be. Honestly, it took quite long to accept we'll need donor eggs..

Our stories differ. Still I cannot imagine the pain you feel having faced 10 mc in a row..Poor thing, I'm sorry..Have you ever considered using donor's mitochondria?

[Mini79 in reply to Karinyaa]

Hello Karinyaa thank you for your post. I am waiting on results to see if it's my eggs or my body . I think I might have a blood issue as I have hypertension which is treated with medication . I really dont know right now what route to take . My ivf cycle reached day 5 blastocyst. But keep miscarrying on week 5 where embryo stops growing .

Thinking If I do ivf with psg test next before considering surrogacy.

[JustKnewIt in reply to Karinyaa]

Great to hear you mentioning mitochondria donation. The option is becoming more and more popular among the IP who don't want to go down donor egg path. I've read a lot about the method. I know some clinics include MD shots into their IVF packages. - Quite a good plan to try out, isn't it? There are some great videos on the point, this one explains the procedure well~~youtube.com/watch?v=r3bEPHQ...(Not working as expected?). It's said one can use MD as long as her own eggs aren't damaged genetically.

[JustKnewIt]

Oh my, I'm so sorry to hear this! 10 miscarriages in a row is a huge dreadful amount..As far as I've understood you've been ttc before naturally, right? And then turned to ivf?but the same result..I'm sorry if I mistook..Anyway, I cannot imagine the pain you're going through as I was born without womb. So I've never experienced pregnancy myself. We went down surrogacy route to get our DD into the family. I'll be praying for you and may your dr invent some really awesome treatment plan for you which will finally bring you your little bundle of joy. Sending you my warm supportive hugs xx

[PagingMom]

So sorry dear! 10? What did your OB say? You're incredible strong. I hope you find a very good IVF specialist who can explain your situation really well. I'm sure your case is much more complicated than mine, but my IVF doc was very detailed and patient whenever I had any questions. I was happy he was my doc, considering we were in Cyprus of all places. I never expected it, but felt really lucky I did.

[Karinyaa]

I'm so sorry to hear this, honey. Seems for some reason your body cannot hold the pregnancy.. What does your dr say?? Has he ever mentioned surrogacy option? If yes, this might be useful for your general outlook. Commercial surrogacy is legal in the Ukraine. But it is only available to married heterosexual couples!! Couples also have to demonstrate that they require surrogacy. They have to provide suitable evidence such as the absence or deformation of the uterus to include adhesions or scar tissue. Risk to the health of the mother or potential child through pregnancy or by providing evidence of having 4 failed IVF attempts. The IP of a child born through surrogacy are considered to be biological parents from the moment of conception. They are specifically named as biological parents in the birth certificate without any mentioning of the surrogate mother. Importantly the gestational surrogate has no legal claim over the child!! Also no specific permission from any regulatory body is required. However written informed consent of all parties participating in the surrogacy program is mandatory! Needless to mention relatively affordable prices. If you’re considering mitochondrial donation/donor eggs, then, for example, one of the clinics in Kiev offers different packages (found this on fb):4900 EUR - 1 att of donation. 6500 EUR - 1 att with mitochondrial replacement.6900 EUR - 2 att of donation.9900 EUR - 2 att with MD. 11900 EUR - 5 att of donation. 14900 EUR - 5 att with MD.VIP package is 64900 EUR. The waiting time for the 1st att at a VIP package is 4 months, and at a Standard package - up to 1 year. Hope this helps.

[backet]

So sorry to hear that, hun! How're you doing now? I hope you feel better! I can't even imagine all the pain you had to go through... Both physical and emotional. You definitely need to see a fertility specialist. Have you looked into donor eggs? I personally have had 3 regular IVF cycles. The last one was in October. All failed and caused lots of troubles to my mental health. Hopefully, I'll start DE IVF cycle right after the pandemic is over. Good luck, hun!

[SerrineV]

Surrogacy is a great option to use, surely. Though the law differs everywhere. So that you cannot pass the surrogacy treatment wherever you want. Or if you just want only.. This is usually a long cmplicated process. Dh and I passed surrogacy in Ukraine. Here's what's needed to be kept in mind. The Ukrainian law allows also egg donation, although egg donors must remain completely anonymous. This means that neither the donor nor the intended parents can get to know each other, including seeing pictures or in person.Moreover, the legislation on ART practice in Ukraine allows the use of PGD with gender selection to choose the sex of the baby. Doing it by means of PGD means that it is carried out prior to the embryo transfer to the surrogate’s womb.

It should be noted that using PGD for the determination of the embryo’s sex is permitted only to prevent an inherited condition related to the child’s sex.

It is important to keep in mind that the law allows embryo donation and sperm donation, too. However, at least the intended father must provide his DNA for the creation of the embryo in surrogacy arrangements.

Every case differs. We have to be strong and determined. Even in times of pandemic a truly reputable repro center will find ways to help its IP to fulfill their dreams.

[Karinyaa]

From the time we both decided on trying other options, we knew we would go internationally. We google searched a lot, registered on fertility forums and asked other couples' opinion. Our research brought us to two several options. Ukraine was among those. This country has the best surrogacy conditions (in case we've failed with IVF) and guarantees for intended parents. At first we thought to contact an intermediary agency. We thought we would be more protected if we proceed with the agency. We contacted a few. What we found is that they take big fees for their service. I asked my forum friends how safe it is to deal directly with fertility clinic, omitting all mediators. Those who dealt with clinic directly told us that it saves a lot of money and even time. Because you can speak directly with clinic’s manager and make appointments when it’s comfy for you. Also, even before you travel for the first time, you can ask manager all questions you have. And the money aspect -- You pay the price established by the clinic, no overcharging. I'm sure everyone has his own reasons opting for particularly their help. We ended up turning to Biotexcom clinic in Kiev, and as time showed did absolutely right.

Hope this helps.