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Is Fibro Real ?

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Like many others with the various autoimmune diseases including Hughes; I was diagnosed with Fibromyalgia many years ago.

As autoimmune diseases are Syndromes; do u think that all the symptoms can be attributed to them and not a separate disease - Fibro?

It seems that everyone u meet has Fibromyalgia now and it makes me wonder if it's an actual condition or if the symptoms are part of the autoimmune diseases.

I don't mean to offend anyone but I just don't understand how suddenly everyone has it. It makes me feel if everyone has it it's insignificant ?

To be honest I don't even know what it really is!!! (If anyone can explain it to me that would be great!) 💋

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You have hit the nail on the head, with is it a collection of symptoms? My own experience with this, is that I have with myself and other friends tested extensively for Thyroid problems when faced with this, and I do not mean, just the GP, saying your Thyroid is fine, we have done the tests! The reason I say this is usually only the TSH is done. When I tested and also several friends over the years plus people I have met with similar symptoms, when we have paid out and tested with tests like these: We have all shown up a significant Thyroid problem. Alongside other deficiencies.

TSH, FT4, FT3, TT4, Thyroid Peroxidase Antibodies,Thyroglobulin Antibodies, Ferritin ,Folate, Vitamin B12 (NOT ACTIVE B12), C Reactive Protein, Vitamin D (25 OH), REVERSE T3, Insulin, HbA1c, Magnesium.

Note the B12, D and Iron also included here. Normally something in the Thyroid shows up, also perhaps low B12 and D and or Iron also.

I also list the symptoms of underactive thyroid:

thyroiduk.org.uk/tuk/about_...

Do I believe in Fibro as a diagnosis in it's own right, no I do not! I believe it is a set of unexplored symptoms, and if enough is looked into, results can be gained. I don't want to upset anybody either but, I had a very close friend, who had this, including endless urine infections, endless pains in the joints, endless sinus problems, chest infections etc. After testing as above, they were found to be low in Vitamin D, B12 and Iron, plus very very low Thyroid function and Thyroid antibodies, since treating significantly better.

However some people insist that the doctor or consultant has thoroughly tested their Thyroid, which as the labs are not set up for the testing is not true. Some pass the narrow tests but a huge number of people slip through the net.

Mary

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Lure2 in reply to MaryF

Well said!

Kerstin

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MaryFAdministrator in reply to Lure2

Thank you. MaryFx

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WendyWoo50 in reply to MaryF

That's what I think. How can the doctors make a diagnosis by pushing on various points on ur back to see if they are tender?

Then telling u u have Fibromyalgia and there is no treatment!

I too think that if more extensive investigations were carried out; an actual condition could be identified and treated.

I know people feel better with a diagnosis - a label - but we need the right one!!!

I'm wondering how many people with an autoimmune condition has been diagnosed with Fibromyalgia - anyone here? Lol

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MaryFAdministrator in reply to WendyWoo50

Lots have on here, and those that wish to read deeply and realise the limitation of some medical advice, save up and do extensive private testing, this is what I did, I had been told over and over again, no problem with your Thyroid, not blaming the GP, they are bound by very limited testing, even though I had so many of the symptoms, it showed up with bells on each time I tested it more extensively. MaryF

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Yllek in reply to MaryF

Just out of interest Mary are you 'believed' and treated properly for you thyroid problem now after the private tests? It does your GP stick with the negative NHS tests?

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MaryFAdministrator in reply to Yllek

I am monitored on thyroid meds by myself and private testing which I then copy to them, but they do still test me at the hospital from time to time.. Gluten free, I made that decision myself after a couple of tests I did myself, ie did my gut and excessive allergy/sneezing abate, and yes it did! MaryF

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Fra22-57 in reply to WendyWoo50

Yes I have

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Ray46

Fibro is a "catchall" diagnosis for a collection of fairly vaguely specified symptoms, there is no cause established, it is not known if it is one condition or many. It is not a very useful (for the patient) diagnosis since it leads to no treatment or prognosis. It is _supposed_ to be a diagnosis of last resort, i.e. where all other possible differentials (ie. other causes of same symptoms) have been eliminated.

Putting my cynical hat on, I would say that in practice it gets used when doctors can't be bothered to look any further into other possible differentials. If it is getting diagnosed more often that could be due to a few things, e.g. medical fashion, increased knowledge of and convenience (for the doctor), or more people having the actual disease (whatever it is).

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WendyWoo50

Thank you for taking the time to explain It to me (us)

I totally understand what ur saying and agree that many doctors are giving out the Fibro label without proper investigation and that's why it seems that 'everyone has it nowadays' which then seems to make the conditions insignificant I've heard people say things like "Oh u have got that Fibromyalgia as well have u?"

I agree it can exist on It's own but I do wonder if those who also have other conditions that cause the same symptoms as Fibro are given the Fibro diagnosis when they actually don't have it. If u get what I mean? 💋

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I knew you would say that! MaryFx

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Ha Ha. MaryF

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donnabrain

I have a fibro diagnosis,but believe that I have undiagnosed thyroid issues

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panda60

I was diagnosed with APS ten years before fibro diagnosis. The symptoms came on remarkable quickly and within less than six months I went from being a keen walker to being eligible for a blue badge. My joint pain was a lot better after being diagnosed as being vitamin d deficient but the fatigue continues and some pain and stiffness in my legs along with weak balance from my stroke in1998. I have had numerous tests and blood tests and a specialist rheumatologist told me it was fibromyalgia and there is no reason to discount it. I just count myself lucky that I don't suffer as badly as many other do.

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WendyWoo50

Thank u for all the comments. It seems it is as I thought. It does exist but sometimes doctors do label us too quickly. I think this give real suffered a bad reputation. Have a good weekend everyone 💋

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