Am I the only one ---I eat something high in vitamin K & about 15 minutes later achey, numbness, stiffness....

[designer16]

I on clexane & vit k shouldn't matter, but I swear it does. I can eat something & 15-20 minutes later I feel it. It's not my imagination because my family notices it. Anyone else with this experience?

[Danimgw]

Everyone reacts different, so try to eat little vitamin K. This is my suggestion.

[GinaD]

I am so sorry to note that your symptoms continue, I reviewed your previous posts and read that you have tried dietary changes. I am no biochemist so I have no idea how Vitamin K is digested and metabolized, but I suspect it takes several hours before it is incorporated into its clotting cascade.

Here in the States our food is allowed to contain so many more pesticides, hormones and growth modifiers then is allowed in the EU. There are many possibilities as to what could be going on. I am no expert. At all. In fact, an English major! But If you note a corrolation between symptoms and certain foods then you might consider following up with a nutritionist, an allergist or even an alternative med doc.

[happee1]

i am surprised you are eating or taking vitamin K with APS...vitamin K has a highly clotting factor...it is used to "thicken" the blood if your blood has become to "thin"....please talk to your doctor about the use of this...

[GinaD in reply to happee1]

Vitamin K intake only effects INR if you are on warfarin. The freedom to eat whatever you want is one of the advantages of the self injection drugs.

The human clotting mechanism is so full of redundancies. My physician Father always said that the smartest students in med school went into hematology or rheumatology because the interplay of all the body's systems had to be understood to practice in those areas,( And it has grown even more complex since Father finished med school in 1949!)

So If one is eating Vitamin K and is NOT on warfarin the vitamin should have no effect on coagulation levels, as we currently understand APLS. Because the anticoagulants you are taking work on other threads of the clotting cascade.

Of course, a brief skim of postings on this site will reveal that some of us respond better to differing meds. Our individual responces have , as I understand it, not yet been explained.

So again, if you are taking a med that effects other aspects of the coagulation cascade, then consuming a usual amount of Vitamin K should have no effect on how quickly you do, or do not, clot.

[happee1 in reply to GinaD]

gina thank you for this information..i have been avoiding vitamin K vegetables while on plavix because i thought it would harm me...but do you have to do an inr while on injections?

[GinaD]

Again, I am no expert and I bow to the superior knowledge of docs, nurses and administrators on this site: but plavix also does not effect the Vitamin K thread of the inter woven clotting cascade. Therefore, an INR for those on plavix is irrelevant.

But agin, my understanding is not based on hard scholarship but on " things I've heard and read. "

What still strikes me is how different we are. After my TIAs lead to my diagnosis I was first prescribed plavix. It didn't help me, ( though boy! I wish it had!) I'm friends with warfarin because it saved my life but I do miss chicken livers and lots of cranberry/ ginger salad!

Gina