Natural Recipe for Antibacterial Hand Protector.

Hi everyone,

With the ever increasing concern over COVID19 with Italy in virtual lock down the US banning visitors from the EU with the UK being the exception. We have to be aware of what is a spreading problem and we all need to work together so we all protect ourselves and one another.

I asked about natural hand sanitisers in my local wholefood shop and they said feel free to photograph the recipe which I did and am passing it on.

Life goes on and we have to be sensible and take precautions rather than stripping things from the supermarket shelves which only exacerbates the situation as there are wharehouses full of thse items, when we have to focus on our priorities so lets try and look out for each other and see what we can do to protect ourselves and each other.

Here's the benefits of the ingredients in the recipe:

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The more we know about how we can use household items to protect us and our skin, which is the largest human organ so needs nourishment especially with all this hand washing which can dry our skin.

Administrator's Note: Please note this is a hand sanitiser recipe to help keep our hands germ free it is not claimed that it kills COVID 19.

[namaha]

Sounds good to go natural...but the 3M liquid which I bought 2 litres contains Isopropyl alcohol which not only sanitises , but also dries automatically within seconds.... and you don't need water at all... .. Save in water.... Save in tissue paper ...no towel required to dry your hand. ..and it is proven that the liquid kills the virus....afterall 3M is a Global company....

However , we appreciate your efforts to discover a good natural recipe as a substitute at this point of time when things are in acute short supply all over the world...

[Hidden in reply to namaha]

Hi namaha you can use Isopropyl alcohol instead of distilled witch hazel, what you have to renember is washing with hot soapy water washes germs away when hand sanitisers kill the germs so are a secondary precaution to washing.

[namaha in reply to Hidden]

👍👍🙏

[maria40 in reply to Hidden]

I heard a virologist explaining why the soap is so important: it seems that the virus has a lipid outer structure and soap, as a detergent, helps to destroy this thus preventing the virus from progressing. Certainly made sense to me.

[Lulububs]

I always have a bottle of aloe vera 99% holland & barratt gel. I used it for years for cuts, sores, when ive had minor surgery. It amazing stuff.

I not had a cold or illness in 6 years! I also take probiotics every day for 6 years and vitamin c .. it seems to b working. I used to always b ill.

[Hidden in reply to Lulububs]

Thanks Lulububs it's great to have a positive endorsement for aloe vera hand gel.

Jerry 😊

[Lulububs in reply to Hidden]

Well it cheaper Jerry then buying all these sanitisers , hand gels or wet wipes...

Also better for the enviroment as it natural.

My nan and mum have always used it so just got passed down to me..

I literally shove it on everything.. my husband laughs that if he ill or hurts himself i get the aloe out.. it my answer to everything.

I burnt my arm with hot oil ages ago and the hosp thought it would scar ... i went straight home used me aloe and it healed really quick and no scarring the hosp was gobsmacked

[Hidden in reply to Lulububs]

Your'e right Lulububs as the link I posted about Aloe Vera says it has these qualities:

Disinfectant, Antibiotic, Germicidal, Antibacterial, Antiseptic, Antifungal and Antiviral and it's natural so yup it's a place in my home. 😊

[Lulububs in reply to Hidden]

I mean i dont think u need anything else with aloe vera ? I think if u buy a 99.9% pure aloe gel

It kills all bacteria...

It also heals... i use it for spots, cuts , grazes. Shaving legs lol.

Cleaning hands.

It also great is u use juice.. if u have digestive issues.. ibs blah blah..

Also mouthwash is u have bad breath or gum desease.

There is so many things it good for.

[Redwind in reply to Hidden]

That’s what I use too

[CDreamer]

Mmmmm..... first it’s a virus not a bacteria.

Second any sanitizer to kill this virus requires 60% + alcohol content. Witch hazel has15%.

This is a lovely recipe but not one I’ll be using for COVID-19 protection. As a general antibacterial spray for yoga mats etc - great!

[Hidden in reply to CDreamer]

That's a good point CDreamer and I said above that you can substitute Isopropyl alcohol for the witch hazel. But it's washing our hands that washes it away rather than relying on killing the virus with alcohol.

I know that I needed something for my hands are they have been getting very dry.

[CDreamer in reply to Hidden]

Frequent handwashing washing is the best & does mean chapped hands.

My personal favourite is anything with coconut oil as a base, seems to be most affective for me.

[Choufleurie in reply to Hidden]

I think it’s great that people are thinking of different ways to heal sensitive hands after all of the essential washing with soap and water but if you name this as a recipe for hand sanitiser I’m concerned that people will think it’s effective against Covid-19, which it won’t be. Even if you replace witch hazel with 60% alcohol, by mixing it with the other ingredients you will be reducing the alcohol content.

By all means, use it as a natural all purpose sanitiser and I love a good recipe for hand softener and getting rid of the chapping-but this should not be used to protect from Covid-19 specifically.

I sit on the emergency response board looking at how to protect people and children in care, our elderly and how we ensure our work force don’t pass it on/remain fit and well themselves so have been involved with much research in what to use or not.

So, wash well with soap and water singing happy birthday twice, don’t touch your face and use a nice natural hand cream before you reach for a sanitiser 💗

[Hidden in reply to Choufleurie]

Hand washing is the best method Choufleurie we are all saying that, as the shops have sold out of hand sanitisers this helps create a barrier as the aloe vera is a disfectant and disinfectants are being used to wash surfaces clean.

I made some of this and it is very effective in helping to keep my hands soft with all this extra washing.

So I see this as another barrier to germs and keeping our hands from drying out.

[Tudee in reply to CDreamer]

Me neither, I use Surgical spirit 75% alcohol mixed with moisturiser, I only use it in the car before entering the house, then soap and water.

[SofaJockey]

Cute hand lotion, but as a protective hand-sanitiser, isn't this recipe unhelpful nonsense?

No substitute for hand washing or a genuinely effective hand sanitiser at all.

Would it be better to draw a line under this thread? I'm not convinced it's helpful to mislead anyone into thinking this is a virus protection.

[Hidden in reply to SofaJockey]

No one is trying to mislead anyone SofaJockey it is a recipe for hand sanitiser using a natural disinfectant.

Because of panic buying the shops have sold out of hand sanitisers so surely thorough washing and using a disfectant hand sanitiser is a great barrier to germs. It also helps keep our hands sofetr with all the extra washing.

[SofaJockey in reply to Hidden]

The introductory post states: "With the ever increasing concern over COVID19 ... we all need to work together so we all protect ourselves and one another."

I've seen no evidence that this 'natural disinfectant' affects viruses.

That statement highlighting this 'concoction' is misleading as this mixture protects no-one and may leave the gullible or deluded thinking it does. This dangerous thread needs shutting down in my view.

[Hidden in reply to SofaJockey]

Alcohol free hand sanitizers are better than nothing. None are as good as washing your hands.

This home made hand cream is a disinfected product.

[SofaJockey in reply to Hidden]

For Covid-19, alcohol-free home-made santitisers may well be no better than nothing, if not worse at all as it makes the deluded person feel secure.

reuters.com/article/uk-fact...

propublica.org/article/coro...

prevention.com/health/a3134...

This is misleading nonsense that has no place on this forum.

[Hidden in reply to SofaJockey]

Your determination to close this thread has been noted SofaJockey

[SofaJockey in reply to Hidden]

Thanks. I'll report it then so that it does.

We don't want quack remedies being circulated at this time.

[Cooper27 Administrator]

I do recall seeing this warning last week:

news.sky.com/story/coronavi...

I do agree, having something is better than nothing, but I wouldn't presume my hands were fully clean until I had thoroughly washed them.

I would consider this my barometer: I often visited a site with a high risk of Weil's disease (comes from rat urine) and think about what point I would feel my hands were clean enough after visiting those sites. I would only use hand sanitizer to allow me to touch my steering wheel so I could get to somewhere I could wash properly (and wash my face too). With homemade sanitisers, I would probably do the same.

I dislike hand sanitizers except as a last resort normally anyway. They don't pick the dirt up off your skin like washing would, so I just don't think it's as good.

[CDreamer in reply to Cooper27]

Absolutely - I used to sail on water which was known to be contaminated and we had to be very careful, especially if we capsized. We had access to clean water immediately and used to stand in the showers fully dressed and undress in the shower.

[CDreamer]

Whilst I will never condone bullying or poor behaviour I do think this advice is inaccurate, misleading and dangerous and should be pulled.

[Hidden in reply to CDreamer]

Hi CDreamer the question you should be asking is why are countries going to great lengths to disinfect everything look at South Korea where they are spraying the streets with disinfetctant.

The point is the shops have sold out of of alcohol handwashes so this is a proven recipe to ward off germs, so if we can protect purselves fromn the coomon cold/bugs we will be stronger as a society to deal with COVID 19

I would never give dangerous advice and I also stated that washing thoroughly with hot water and soap is the best was to keep our hands germ free.

[CDreamer in reply to Hidden]

Give me a link to a science based study. This is a highly contagious virus - not a ‘germ’.

If you need something to carry around & cannot get an alcohol sanitizer then you would be better off putting liquid soap in a spray bottle and using that - which is what I am doing - with a few drops of Tea Tree for good measure which is excellent for fungus but frankly - I have no idea how affective it is against this virus and I doubt very much if you do either.

We beg to differ and therefore leave it there - I don’t believe that any of the links you gave prove anything as they are all journalistic sites.

[Cooper27 Administrator in reply to CDreamer]

I'd caution against dilute soap - soap generally only works if you wash for long periods thoroughly. Pharmacies are advising that if you can't get sanitiser, you should use hand wipes, which are still possible to get a hold of.

[CDreamer in reply to Cooper27]

Take your point about dilute soap - then tube of soap + water bottle? I am one of those in the highly vulnerable group so am not socialising at the moment but my husband is so trying to find a reasonable protocol he will follow when at volunteering activities with no access to a basin with soap and water.

I can’t find any hand wipes either - other than baby wipes which I’m not sure about.

Luckily I do have a small supply of alcohol sanitiser - stock built up way before COVID19 because I take immune suppressants.

[Cooper27 Administrator in reply to CDreamer]

I don't think a bottle of water would give you enough, although it's better than nothing.

This image will help you see why soap spray isn't enough on its own (probably equivalent to a rinse and shake), whilst a bottle of water might only give you the equivalent of 6s:

mobile.twitter.com/covid_vi...

I probably would say baby wipes are better than nothing. Maybe using the soap followed by a good scrub with a baby wipe and a quick rinse with water would be a good stop-gap. I think it's such a shame the immuno-compromised have to make decisions like this though.

[CDreamer in reply to Cooper27]

Thank you for that information.

Being immune suppressed is better than the alternative! I have had to be very careful for many years now, I cannot be in the same room with someone with many sorts of virus - especially the herpes family. Had bacterial pneumonia twice and currently have more or less chronic inflammatory bronchial problems which means I am coughing and sneezing all the time - which makes me an unwelcome visitor to most social gatherings in these times as well as increasing my own risk!

We have forgotten how to live with very contagious diseases. At school I well remember children in my class dying from Polio, Measles and Scarlet Fever. When I developed Measles - I was quarantined for 4 weeks - as was any child with any infectious disease so social distancing was very much de-rigour. Whatever the dangers of vaccines etc - they are better than young children dying or living for life with the impairments.

I have never been able to understand why people believe it’s OK to go to work with a cold or cough or shingles or why employers are so undereducated that they sanction sick leave! (Obviously fear of misuse of sick leave is reason but not an excuse).

If there is one positive to come out of COVID19 pandemic my hope is that it will open people’s eyes to the potential harm and disruption that these microbes have and change people’s perceptions, attitudes and behaviours to hygiene and social distancing and for sick leave to be catered for in the interests of the greater good.

[Activity2004 Administrator in reply to Cooper27]

We sometimes use baby wipes for my Niece and Nephew if they can't get to a sink right away before doing anything. While we are staying inside for right now, we insist that they wash their hands before and after eating and anything else so they don't get sick.

[SofaJockey]

I agree. From my own perspective I'm just trying to alert the forum to inappropriate misleading information that I firmly believe has no place here. As the matter has been reported, it trust there is a process that leads to a measured call on this.

I'm not sure where the reference to 'bullies' comes into this. Raising concerns about bogus health information is a public duty and is certainly not 'bullying'.

Helpfully, the original post appears to have been has edited, I think to add a disclaimer that this 'home-brew' is ineffective against Covid-19.

[CDreamer in reply to SofaJockey]

Trouble is people read the headlines - rarely the postscript. I am great fan of TTO but it has not been proven to be that affective against viruses. Great antibacterial & anti-inflammatory but unproven against viruses.