Low protien low carb and low fat diet

[Ralph1966]

Hi healthy eaters,

I am searching for a diet low in carb, fat, and protein but without affecting my general health.

I have prostate cancer post surgery that recurrent and now post radiation to the prostate bed with 6 months hormonal therapy (Firmagon). High protein/fat diet is not good for me and complex carb may be the way to go.

Any advise of a healthy diet plan for prostate cancer and cancer in general is appriciated.

Thank you all for reading my post.

Ralph

[Zest]

Hi Ralph1966

Welcome to the Healthy eating forum. Have you seen this resource, it might be helpful for you, as you have specific queries regarding your health:

prostatecanceruk.org/prosta...

Would be beneficial to discuss your requirements with your medical specialist of course.

Hope that the link is helpful, and I hope you'll enjoy participating here in the Healthy eating forum.

Zest

[Kai--]

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Spot on, Ralph1966. 😌 🙏

(Sounds like you’re on the right track 🛤 . . . 👍👍 )

If you’re not already aware of these folks*/ resources, they/ it may be just what you’re looking for, Ralph: Whole Food, Plant-Based Eating 2: People & Resources: pcri.org/insights-blog/2018...

Wishing you the very best. 😌 🙏 🍀 🌺 🌞

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*"If you Google any of these names you’ll add to your knowledge and understanding of plant-based nutrition: Michael Greger, MD [ nutritionfacts.org/?s=Prost... ] ; Joel Fuhrman, MD; John McDougall, MD; Caldwell Esselstyn, MD; Rip Esselstyn; Dean Ornish, MD; Neal Barnard, MD; T. Colin Campbell, PhD; Michael Klaper, MD; David Katz, MD; Joel Kahn, MD; Robert Ostfeld, MD; Julieanna Hever, MS, RD; Milton Mills, MD; Rich Roll and John Robbins."

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Addendum:

‘Prostate cancer videos’ 📹 search results using names:

. . . 👨‍⚕️ Michael Greger, MD: nutritionfacts.org/?s=Prost...

. . . 👨‍⚕️ John McDougall, MD: google.com/search?as_q=pros...

. . . 👨‍⚕️ Caldwell Esselstyn, MD: google.com/search?as_q=pros...

. . . 👨‍🚒 Rip Esselstyn: google.com/search?as_q=pros...

. . . 👨‍⚕️ Dean Ornish, MD: google.com/search?as_q=pros...

. . . 👨‍⚕️ Neal Barnard, MD: google.com/search?as_q=pros...

. . . 👨‍🔬 T. Colin Campbell, PhD: google.com/search?as_q=pros...

. . . 👨‍⚕️ Michael Klaper, MD: google.com/search?as_q=pros...

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[Kai-- in reply to Kai--]

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Additional resources, if of interest, Ralph1966:

. . . • THE MARSHALL PLAN documentary: Neal Barnard, M.D., on prostate cancer [1+ minute]: youtube.com/watch?v=H61oAPZ...(Not working as expected?)

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. . . • *Diet, Nutrition, and Cancer Survivorship | T. Colin Campbell, PhD (2007) [37+ minutes]: youtube.com/watch?v=hWfsQv8...(Not working as expected?)

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. . . • *Animal Protein -- Meat and Dairy -- Cause Cancer [45+ minutes]: youtube.com/watch?v=yfsT-qY...(Not working as expected?)

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. . . • Physician’s Committee for Responsible Medicine (PCRM) – Prostate Cancer: pcrm.org/health-topics/pros...

. . . • Videos (from ‘Diet is the Key’ – Prostate Cancer blog): dietisthekey.com/disease/pr...

. . . • Plant Based Health Australia – Cancer: wholefoodsplantbasedhealth....

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[*Despite lengthy videos, have found T. Colin Campbell’s explanations about cancer genesis (& growth over time) comprehensive, cogent, & nuanced in depth of understanding.]

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[Kai-- in reply to Kai--]

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Supplemental, cancer-related resources that might be of interest, Ralph1966, over at bettyx156 post "Hi everyone":

. . . • healthunlocked.com/healthye...

. . . • healthunlocked.com/healthye...

. . . • healthunlocked.com/healthye...

😌 🙏 🍀 🌺 🌞

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[TheAwfulToad]

A diet low in carbs, fat, and protein is simply low in calories

Is there any particular reason why fat is specifically contraindicated in your case? Logically, you must eat either carbs or fat for energy, and eating less than your body needs is not usually a good plan.

There is a fair body of evidence suggesting that low-carb high-fat diets can be an effective adjunct to drug therapy for certain types of cancer, so it may well be worth a go.

[Ralph1966 in reply to TheAwfulToad]

Hi, thank you for reading my post.

Fat is not good for cancer patients in general, specifically for prostate cancer.

The problem is that protien too, should be kept below 40 gm/day.

May be complex carbs with high fiber content is the best choice for me?

[Penel]

Hi Ralph

My husband had prostate cancer some years ago. He had to follow a low residue diet whilst having radiation therapy but was not told to avoid any particular foods afterwards. I’m interested in knowing where your advice on food came from.

He has been doing well on a lowish carb, full fat diet now for several years, with a lot of vegetables. His follow-ups have all been good.

[Ralph1966 in reply to Penel]

Hi Penel,

If his Gleason score is less than 7 (3+4) he will be ok, but for those with intermediate-high risk G score above 8 it is likely that the cancer will return back and spread later on.

The metabolic pathways that PCa follow when only local without distant metastasis are Glutamine and fat, and later on during more advance stages on glucose.

Some herbs and supplements can interfere with thsee pathways and thus slow down the progression of PCa.

Low methionine diet which is an amino acid and part of protein component can help cancer patients to live long life of course combined with healthy plant based diet, exercise and meditation.

[Penel in reply to Ralph1966]

Thank you for your informative reply. My husband’s Gleason score has remained low since completing treatment.

A low methionine diet looks potentially useful, but could be difficult to get right. As far as I can see it has as yet only been shown to be effective in rats.