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Does anyone know the success rate of a mandatory reconsideration? I have fibro as well as a plethora of other illnesses that affect my quality of life. All backed up with consultants letters and plans. I only scored 4 points when CAB thought I would definitely get an award.

My award report has lies in it. Which I can prove as I have the recording. So know exactly what was said. The fact I drive and work ( I'm on long term sick being redeployedwhich I told them) apparently means I'm OK. Is it worth doing the MR as I'm totally drained with it all!

Thanks in advance ☺️

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Dinkie

Think it is around 20% but it can depend upon many things. If the MR is requested by someone experienced with the right phrases and how to word it then the chances would be higher than someone who has submitted their first one without the knowledge. There is guidance available from the benefits information on this site and also various other sites such as benefits and work etc.

If going down the MR route please don't use the word "lied" rather that there has been a misunderstanding and put your side forward. If you have statements from friends/family/colleagues who know you well and can confirm your difficulties and you haven't submitted them now is the time to do it.

Good luck - do hope everything goes well for you.

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Delilah162 in reply toDinkie

Ah thank you for your helpful reply. I did send lots of evidence a personal statement and a statement from my husband. CAB helped with the application and said I’d done a brilliant personal statement. They said they are happy to help me do the MR. I have two new neurologist letter since my assessment so will add those. Thank you for the wording advice! ☺️

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Marchhare7

Hi Delilah162, sorry to hear you didnt get the result you should have. Its happening to lots of people and resulting in an increase in MR. There is a charity who are legally trained and can support you in a MR, they are called fightback4justice.I hope im not breaking any rules recommend these.

They have so many resources online you can access and staff who can case work with you. Good luck

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Delilah162 in reply toMarchhare7

Oh thanks for that I'll have a look at their website 😊

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Midori

Yes. Definitely do it. it's the first step towards getting your entitlement. Even if MR is refused, go for Appeal, because 70 - 80% of applications are upheld at an Appeal.

The assessors get told to refuse as many as possible to see if we have the sticking power to go right through the process.

Its evil, but this is time to be strong.

Cheers, Midori

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Delilah162 in reply toMidori

Aww thank you for your encouraging reply. I will press on with it.

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Noodlenan

Hi Delilah 162

My personal experience and subsequent knowledge is shouting out to you YES it is definitely worth going for MR. The written report I had completely contradicted the recorded assessment too. I went through it line by line and word for word listing every contradiction and “twisted narrative”. This list was 4 sides of A4 paper. It took me over a week to do it however when CAB assisted me with the MR they advised what to write in the letter requesting MR and I sent my “list” with it as well as the same supporting documentation I’d initially sent.

I was then awarded standard rate in both components.

The whole PIP process is completely demoralising but hang in there - trust me it’s worth it!

Best of luck 🥰

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Delilah162 in reply toNoodlenan

Ah right it's definitely not just me then. That's the plan for me now to just go through my transcript. It's an 1 hrs and 47 mins long!! But I didn't say what they have said I did! I'm glad I asked for the recording now. Thank you for your advice.

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Shepypie

Hi Delilah162, when I first applied for Pip I received zero points and like you the report was nothing like what was said during the assessment and my husband submitted a letter saying what had been said. I submitted an mr and DWP gave me 10 points I took it to an appeal as I thought that I should get more points for managing medication due to my diabetes. The Judge agreed and gave me more points so I was awarded enhanced daily living and that was 5 year’s ago.

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Delilah162 in reply toShepypie

Oh fab good on you for fighting! It's so wrong how they can just dismiss what you have said and then say "I've decided you can". So hard not to take it personally.

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jimmyshoes

please don’t worry about the success rate and. Just send it in to get another person to review your claim .. I’ve had to go to appeal one and mandatory recon twice . I’d rather be in good health as before than suffer like no doubly you do too , as form is like sitting an exam trying to write how we struggle .

You know how you are affected . It is hard enough to explain with words how you struggle no doubt so good luck x

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Delilah162 in reply tojimmyshoes

Thank you for your reply. After everyone's advice I have decided to do the mandatory reconsideration. I am tackling the form at the moment. X

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jimmyshoes

Good on you x

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releasethemagic

When you write your request for the MR, as other people have said, don't refer to the assessor's report as lies. Also get a copy of the report itself. Don't rely on the DWP letter about the report. You are entitled to a copy of the report so ask for one. If the report contains incorrect assumptions or conclusions, refer to them as errors, or inconsistencies that do not reflect the evidence, inaccuracies, assumptions not based on the facts of the case, or even say that perhaps the assessor muddled you up with someone else they saw on the same day.

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Delilah162 in reply toreleasethemagic

Thank for replying. Is the assessors report different to what's written on the decision letter then? I'm just doing my MR based on the decision letter I have received.

I'm being very careful as to how I would things. I've used pleased can you reconsider this point?. I think their might have been a missing understanding? Maybe I should've elaborated more? I'm currently going through my paper assessment, my recorded assessment, my husband statement to challenge each point I would like reconsidered. I have lots of consultants letters etc. I have 2 new neurology letters satting I'm clearly suffering so will include these. Fingers crossed I get a better outcome 🙏

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releasethemagic

The DWP Letter is the DWP Decision-maker's interpretation of the assessor's report. You need to see the original report to see fully what you are up against.

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Delilah162 in reply toreleasethemagic

Ah right ok, thank you for that. Do I need to phone dwp for that then or capita?

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releasethemagic in reply toDelilah162

DWP

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soppysokes

hard as it is for those of us who do really have lives upended and suffer badly from fibro-the reality is that, for many now it is a condition that can be faked and/or exagerated thus leading to more uncertainty in granting a financial benefit.

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Delilah162 in reply tosoppysokes

I totally get what you are saying. I have a good bit more going on along side the fibro. It just baffles me how they can state things I've just not said!

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