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Recent PIP announcement

Morning all.

Hope you are all doing ok this morning. My post is about the recent PIP announcement and what I think we can do to try and limit the scope or the affect of the announcement reassessment timetable.

I’ll be contacting my MP and as I live in Scotland, my MSP who just happens to be the First Minister. I’ll be putting forward the argument that the DWP can search for claims which contain a demonstrable mental health element and can review these cases to see if the claimant has been awarded the full complement of points for the affect of their mental health condition.

I’ll be submitting that there is absolutely no need to reassess people who have already been judged entitled to the enhanced rates as there is no prospect that they are entitled to more money (which is the guise of the announcement); and I’d submit that where a mental health condition isn’t central to the application or where the claimant has already been awarded full mobility allowance then there is no need to review the application as doing so won’t change the outcome in the customers favour and will only serve to cause further stress and upset.

Here in Scotland the situation is complicated further as powers over PIP will be taken from the DWP and moved to the Scottish Government’s new Social Security Agency. For those of us in Scotland we could add a call for MSP’s and MP’s to ask the DWP to defer general PIP reassessments (subject to the above) as the Scottish Government will soon take over responsibility for PIP.

What does everyone think? Is it something we could perhaps collaborate on and come up with an open letter alongside contacting our own MP’s, AM’s, MLA’s and MP’s (perhaps even some sympathetic members of the House of Lords).

I understand some won’t want to go public and add their name to a letter and that is okay; contacting your own representative MP, AM, MLA or MSP will help up the pressure on the DWP.

As chair of Welfare Scotland and member of the group looking into how the new Social Security agency will be set up and how it will function, I am going to contact the new Scottish Social Security Minister and also put forward concerns into this recent announcement.

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Very good, well done , I totally agree with you .Great post.

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I.m not sure how the PIP and ESA works in Scotland, wether you are supported from local gov, or central..However I agree people who have been deamed unable to work have severe disabilities should be left alone, the letter saying they are looking to see if you are being paid enough is a con, they are really trying yet again to stop PIP where they can and force people back to work and then onto U,.C, the governments keep rolling out new schemes with a different name-which is really the same benefit; find themselves shot in their own feet as the answers on the forms and assessments are very much the same, claimants are mostly genuine, what they need to do is truly root out the cheats and lazy and leave the rest of us alone... Good on you taking on the higherarchy many of them have no idea how we are treated.

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According to the Guardian they will look at assessments again and contact anyone affected rather than reassess claimants in the traditional way

The DWP said it was directly contacting anyone affected and additional payments would be backdated to the effective date in each claim. Claimants do not need to write to DWP in order to receive the correct award, and will not have to undergo a new assessment.

theguardian.com/society/201...

I think we personally need to clarify their plan before thinking about action, however if they are going to reassess many people putting them through untold stress and anxieties due to their error then I fully support your campaign and any petitions about this.

All the best

Emma :)

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Thanks very much for this Mdaisy. I’ll ask our clerk to contact the press office and find out exactly what their plans are. Your article there certainly gives a lot more detail than anywhere else. Thanks again and I’ll post back when I hear.

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Bi i am lead to believe their system does not tell them who has mental heath issues it is flawed that's how they have to look at them all .lead to believe if not effected you will not get a reassessment.it will effect mental heath who get physiological distess and cannot go to unfimilar places etc .not 100% sure but that wot hub tho k the now .maybe be other issuies

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They do keep records of the main disability, chronic health.condition or MH.

That's how we get reports of how many are claiming for what reason.

I know how many blind people claim under sight loss as their main disability.and other information is there in the public domain.

So don't worry!

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Yeh I thought that.i was meaning hard to explain em .say percentage.they cannot click a button and get told say 30% of pip forms have mental health on them they do not know how many so have to look at them all.i think that's wot hub meant and it is costing them a fortune to do this .could be wrong only got told this

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This is info I received....

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We are getting quite a few enquiries about the new mental health ruling re PIP, here is how the DWP will deal with it, you do not need to appeal the decision separately however we will know more as time passes:

REF: MH court ruling The DWP said no one will have to endure a fresh face-to-face disability assessment instead case managers will review people's claims using existing information, and bump up their benefits if appropriate.

Case managers will contact claimants or ...their GPs if they need to find out more.

Priority will be given to claimants who have since died, and those who had their benefits denied entirely.

Officials will then move on to those who were paid PIP but got less than they deserved.

Officials will then move on to those who were paid PIP but got less than they deserved.

The Minister refused to publish a timetable of how many months or even years it will take for this 'complex exercise' to be completed.

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Thanks for adding this info Bananas5

Not a word about compensation for those denied it and the damage to their health from stress, anxiety and worsening of mental health conditions. :(

What a complete mess the welfare system changes have made!

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Yup. And to start with those who have since died is very very odd. Had they got the money they needed would they still be alive? Likely I would say.

I won't go into the politics of why the welfare is systematically being destroyed but...like the NHS it will all go. Been planned for at least 20 years..Without the drip drip drip of scroungers, deserving/undeserving, savage cuts in the name of austerity....Joe Public would never have allowed this to happen.

No one believed it then and no one believes it now.

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Quote: 'Yup. And to start with those who have since died is very very odd. Had they got the money they needed would they still be alive? Likely I would say.;

Actually what I was thinking !!!

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Me thinks this will open a whole new can of worms for DWP.

Family and friends showing someone would still be alive if...

Oooh dear.

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They don't assess people properly and then say people can manage on these benefits yet the increase in Foodbank use which I saw someone on twitter say 'isn't happening' What world or planet are they living in I wonder?!?

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See my answer above about welfare and NHS.

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I know it's all gone to pot IMO .....

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