Day 3 Double Transfer - any advice?

[SKC111]

Hello again. EC Monday - 2 Fertilised - Recommended 3 day transfer x 2 embryos which have 50% fragmentation. I have had a call from the clinic to recommend a double transfer tomorrow. Me & my partner were adamant we didn’t want a double transfer but both being such low quality this is their recommendation. Can anyone provide their experience & successes of day 3 transfer? I feel a bit deflated my partner still isn’t sure about putting 2 back in. Any help or kind works would be appreciated!!!

[Gerbear22]

Hi there.Yes I had a day3 transfer of 2 embyros and now have a beautiful 14month old.We are going again in Sept and will have another day 3 transfer if we are lucky enough to have anything to transfer.Wishing you soo much luck.xx

[SKC111 in reply to Gerbear22]

Aww thanks so much for the reply 🙏🏻 do you mind me asking how old you are? I think we were recommended 2 transferred as I’m 40. What the grade were your two? She will tell me tomorrow but did say both have 50% fragmentation.

[Gerbear22 in reply to SKC111]

I was age 40.They were both 8 cell grade 1.xx

[SKC111 in reply to Gerbear22]

Thank you! Good to know! Just chatting to my partner he is really concerned about transferring two and hesitant. I’m all for increasing the odds, ahhh!

[Newbeginnings24]

Hi, in our third IVF round we had three Day 3 embryos and were advised to transfer all as a fresh transfer. It was a mix of factors being 40 years old, low numbers of embryos, and having two previous failed transfers (single and double). The doctor was concerned that trying to freeze or waiting until Day 5 would lose them and our best chance of getting even one embryo to implant was this approach. My husband had tested high for sperm DNA fragmentation but the embryos seemed fairly good/ok quality (2 out of 4 on their scale, 1 being best) though we didn’t PGTA test them.

I realize this decision is not for everyone and certainly has risks so am not advocating it, just sharing our experience. We went with the advice of the clinic and were finally lucky to find out that I’m pregnant with one baby, now 10 weeks. It’s still early days but so far so good.

Wishing you best of luck whatever you decide!

[SKC111 in reply to Newbeginnings24]

Ahhh congratulations 🧡 I’m so happy for you! It is a decision not for all but at our ages it’s all about working with the odds. My partner has hesitantly agreed to go with the two today so we have everything crossed! Thank you greatly for taking the time to reply it really means a lot x

[Benish21 in reply to Newbeginnings24]

Did u use embroy glue

[SKC111 in reply to Benish21]

I’m not 100% but I believe they did, I can find out. Is it best to use or avoid? X

[monkee641]

Oh bless you 🙏🏻. Although, we went to day 5 with our embys, we were recommended to have 2 transferred as well, and that was mainly due to my age (I was 41). But I think our clinic do it as standard anyway.

We had 3 embys remaining at day 5, with the 3rd going to day 6, so we could freeze it if it was good quality. Unfortunately we weren’t able to do that as it stopped developing past day 5. But we had the 2 really good ones ready for transfer. We didn’t even hesitate when they asked us if we wanted a double transfer. And I’m so grateful for this as 1 didn’t stick. But we were very lucky that 1 did, and we had our beautiful little girl, who is now 1 years old. So for us, it was absolutely the best decision x x

[SKC111 in reply to monkee641]

Aww thanks for the reply and a huge congratulations on your daughter! This gives me hope.! We had the double transfer today. There was a lot of fragmentation over 50% they could see six cells in one and four in the other. She felt she couldn’t grade them based on the lack of visibility based . All we can do is wait and hope now 🤞🏼

[monkee641 in reply to SKC111]

Awwww amazing. I think ours were similar. One had started to hatch too! Which naively I had absolutely idea is what happens, how funny eh.

You’ll have an anxious wait now for sure, but I wish you all the luck in the world. And if you do have twins, it’s meant to be, they’ll be so so precious, and your family will be complete 🙏🏻 x x

[SKC111 in reply to monkee641]

Wow I had no idea that happened either tbh! No one talks about the embryos hatching 🐣 lol! Thank you any child or twin children would be a blessing, I want nothing more in the world 🤞🏼🤞🏼 🧡 thanks for the reply!!! The wait continues I hope the stars align x x x

[HalifaxCalifornia]

Hi I had a day 3 transfer… 3 embryos, one is now my 10 month old baby boy ❤️❤️❤️

[SKC111 in reply to HalifaxCalifornia]

Amazing- congratulations & thanks for the reply 🩵 Do you mind me asking how old you were? Did the embryos get graded and did you have much fragmentation? Fingers crossed for ours 🤞🏼

[HalifaxCalifornia]

By OBGYN standards I”m a Dinosaur. I had my egg retrieval at 44, and found out a week before my 45th bday that I was pregnant. I’m now 46 with a 10 month old. Out of 10 retrieved, 6 fertilized, 3 transferred. No Genetic testing, I waited till 12 week tests.One took and one made it into the freezer!wishing you the best of luck ❤️❤️

[SKC111 in reply to HalifaxCalifornia]

OMG amazing I love this! Great numbers, what’s your secret? Thanks for sharing your story ❤️

[HalifaxCalifornia in reply to SKC111]

Hi! I’ve responded to a couple of reply questions from others about what my Dr had me on … if you look at my post / replies on my profile you can see the whole story. If you can see them let me know, and I’ll post it to you ❤️❤️

[SKC111 in reply to HalifaxCalifornia]

Amazing thank you! I will take a look now x x x

[SilkySilk]

Hi, I've had exactly the same as you, double fresh 3DT last Thursday! We asked to do it and the clinic agreed.

I am 38 and this is our 2nd round of IVF. A previous round in Jan got 4 embryos, which became one failed fresh, two failed FET and one failed thaw.

This round has again got 4 embryos, the remaining two were frozen at day 5.

I was told that the risk of twins, despite heightened, still isn't too bad and wouldn't be a disaster. Given all the previous failed transfers I am willing to take the chance if it helps avoid more treatment!

Good luck and baby dust to you! When is your OTD?

[SKC111 in reply to SilkySilk]

Hey! 🤞🏼 for you! That great you got to freeze two and transfer two! Out of interest why did they decide to transfer on day 3 for you? I think they did mine as they were concerned they wouldn’t make it to day 5 blasts. My OTF is 13th is this the same for you? X

[SilkySilk in reply to SKC111]

They told me that since it was clear which embryos were the strongest at day 3, that it made sense to transfer them then as the uterus is always a better environment. If they hadn't been able to tell they would let them carry on until day 5 to judge.

Am I right that you got two embryos? In that case it makes total sense, as there would be nothing to be gained by waiting for a 5 days, you'd only be risking them. The only reason 5 day blasts have better pregnancy rates is because the weaker embryos are 'weeded out'. If you don't need to make a selection then any embryo has a better chance inside your body than out

OTD is the 14th for me, however I'm going to test this Sunday (11th). My last couple of BFN I got on a weekday and it wrecked me, so despite wanting to be positive I don't want to repeat that experience on a working day!

[SKC111 in reply to SilkySilk]

Hey, sorry for the slow reply! That makes sense! Yes we got two in total. Sounds like a good idea to test a the weekend. I think I’m going to test early too, we have just arrived in Italy & I want to know now! I’m feeling like I have PMS so I don’t feel that positive because of where my mood is at & the amount of fragmentation our little embryos had. I think the fact you had two go to day 5 and get frozen is really positive. Sending 🙏🏻 & baby dust your way!! Out of interest were you long or short protocol?

[SKC111]

BFN 😞

[TopGuntastic in reply to SKC111]

As a day 3 transfer it’s still early, when’s your OTD? ✨🤞

[SKC111 in reply to TopGuntastic]

Tue 13th I did an early (6 day early) detection test today. Never mind, will try again & see what changes we can make x

[TopGuntastic in reply to SKC111]

I wouldn’t say you are out yet. 6dp3dt is the equivalent of testing on day 4 with a 5dt. Everything crossed 🤞 xx

[SKC111 in reply to TopGuntastic]

Thanks, I’m now 9dp3dt so not looking great but I will keep testing just in case! Thanks for taking the time to reply, I really appreciate it 🫶🏼 xxxx

[Londonlady2024]

Hi, I had a double day 3 frozen transfer and have a 3 week baby boy. I'll 44 next week. My own eggs and prior to this transfer, all 4 fresh transfers failed. Good luck x

[SKC111 in reply to Londonlady2024]

Congratulations that’s amazing! Thanks for sharing this gives me hope we have 3 attempts. Did you make any changes during your cycles? Xxx

[Londonlady2024 in reply to SKC111]

Thank you. During my last fresh transfer we added clexane, aspirin, lubion and prednisolone and the transfer failed. Then I was advised by my NHS clinic to have hycosy procedure and that I would need hysterscopy if they found something. I had the hycosy and it was all clear. Had frozen transfer after 2 months and that cycle was successful, with the same address ons. It was a medicated cycle x

[SKC111 in reply to Londonlady2024]

Thanks for the reply! That’s interesting they recommend a hycosy, I thought this was only to check if your tubes were blocked which wouldn’t matter for ivf? I had a Hycosy over a year ago which was clear. I hadn’t heard of a hysterscopy, I just had to google this. Hopefully my clinic will recommend some changes. Given we only had 2 fertilise out of 8 and have no idea if they made it to day 5, I’ll ask if there are any tests we can have as it seems a quality issue. Thanks again for replying 🫶🏼 x x x

[Londonlady2024 in reply to SKC111]

I was advised that hycosy also assesses the uterus not just the tubes. Initially they advised hysterscopy but I declined because there was a 4 month waiting list hence they advised hycosy. If you only had 2, they should have transferred at day 3 as there is a risk the embryos may not survive in the dish at day 5. Wishing you all the best X keep us posted xx

[SKC111 in reply to Londonlady2024]

Ah I see, I didn’t know that ref Hycosy. Thank you! I hope our dream comes true like yours 💙 take care. I will post updates x

[Londonlady2024 in reply to SKC111]

It will, don't give up x