Can you ovulate naturally after you have taken a trigger shot (before the 36 hours)?!

[Nes1005]

Hello all

Just wondering if anyone can advise to help ease my fears... as ever, there always seems to be a stress before egg collections or transfers, doesn't help doing it abroad!

I am due to go for a natural FET in Cyprus in the coming few days (my last with own eggs :/ ), I am tracking ovulation with scans and blood tests in the UK, my scan today on day 12 shows the largest follicle around 18/19, with another large one not far behind and my lining is 10.7 (my biggest ever). The sonographer said she thinks I will ovulate tomorrow... I sent this report to my clinic in Cyprus and they still want me to take a trigger shot tonight, and then based on ovulation 36 hours after that, the transfer will follow in 3 days.

I am worried that I will ovulate before the 36 hours ie tomorrow and then the timing for the transfer will be off. I tried to express my concerns but my coordinator in Cyprus was a bit short because I was questioning it. She said it is impossible to ovulate naturally once you have taken the trigger shot, I didn't think this was the case. Does anyone know if this is true?! I always believed you had to be on Cetrotide or similar to stop ovulation. any thoughts appreciated, I am desperate to make sure everything is done right to give this my best shot...my time is really running out.xxx

Thanks for reading and my love and hugs and huge good wishes to all the wonderful ladies on this journey, my heart is with you all. xxx

[BlahBlah55]

I don’t know how helpful this is, but I got paranoid about premature ovulation in my recent IVF cycle. I kept asking the doctor about it and she said it does happens it approx 1% of cases - but this is about IVF cycle and going in for egg collection to find they have already ovulated so not sure how useful that is when thinking about FET. In the end my doctor scheduled my trigger for 35 hours, rather than 36 hours, before collection. Which might have been due to my paranoia!

[Nes1005 in reply to BlahBlah55]

Ah it’s so hard isn’t it. I never questioned it with my egg collections when I was still having treatment in the uk, because they were seeing me every couple of days so it was easier to trust the process! It’s a bit diy when you have treatment abroad…I’m still not believing that the trigger shot can stop me from ovulating naturally but I think I just have to give in and prey they everything comes together. I prey that this is finally time as my heart can’t take much more.

Thanks so much for taking the time to reply, it means a lot.xxx

[Greenleaves1]

Sorry I've got no useful advice but I guess you have to just trust the process and the clinic. They'll have your best interest at heart so fingers crossed. PS how did you manage such a thick lining? Lol tips please!!

[Nes1005 in reply to Greenleaves1]

I will have to trust them, I had a melt down last month as well for egg collection as I thought they were leaving it too late and that my follicles were too big but I ended up with 10 eggs and 8 mature so it turned out okay! I think because of all of the things that have gone bad for us and all the trauma, I’m in such high alert with every detail!

Omg the lining, I nearly fell off the bed at the scan today, honestly I’ve never had a lining over 8.4 ish even whilst on stims, This is natural lining! On previous cycles, I’ve always been militant about pineapple and Brazil nuts for implantation but nothing really for the lining. This time around I had read lots mentioning pomegranate juice and vit E for lining…don’t know how this had bypassed me up until now bearing in mind this is my 5th cycle, will be 6th transfer. So I’ve been getting the pure pomegranate juice from sainsburys(it’s costly) I’ve drunk, two good size glasses a day and vitamin d oil, from Holland and barret, 5 drops a day on the tongue or in drink, it seems to have done something!!

Thanks for your lovely reply, and hopefully the pomegranate can help in the future. ❤️

[Greenleaves1 in reply to Nes1005]

It's so stressful and there's very little we can control so I totally get that anxiety. I have to travel for treatment too although it's only from Belfast to Manchester but it's still a logistical stress to add onto an already stressful time. That's great I'll definitely stock up on the pom juice this time round & vitamin E. At least those things I can control lol xx

[WillowPark]

Hi, I don't know if this is helpful as it isn't quite the answer to your question, but I've heard on here about people who have moved their transfer a day or so either way for many reasons (a funeral is the one which sticks in my head) so even if you are right and the clinic is wrong, and you ovulate in under 24 hours rather than 36 hours, I think the chances of that meaning you are transferring on the 'wrong' day and having a negative outcome from that is pretty slim. Like if you are meant to transfer on Tuesday but transfer on Wednesday, that's still OK x

[Nes1005 in reply to WillowPark]

Ah thanks so much for your reply and thanks I think that’s a really good perspective, it will still be within a small window of time either way so hopefully it will be okay. Kindly the lady at the scan clinic has offered for me to come back today and said she will scan me again for free very quickly to say whether I have ovulated or not to set my mind at rest! I think because the scans there are so eye wateringly expensive (on Harley street) she felt sorry for me and wanted to do something to help. So I am going back this afternoon so should see if I have actually ovulated naturally. I had the trigger last night at the clinics insistance so transfer is planned for Tuesday. I’m hoping this could be our time, hope the same for everyone here waiting for their time to💕

Thanks again for taking the time to reply, it’s always reassuring to have hope and positivity from others on here.

xxx

[Doodlebug23]

On natural cycle, ovulation is just the process where your body gets the signal to expect an egg and to be ready to give it a nice environment to get settled in and grow. Remember with natural as in no IVF you can get pregnant for a few days so with FET the ovulation is just being used as a trigger for the environment to be receptive. I’d think they need to ensure transfer isn’t too early rather than too late. Hopefully that made some dirt of sense?!!! 🙈 Good luck!!

[Nes1005 in reply to Doodlebug23]

It really does make a lot of sense and that’s a good way to think of it, probably much more important to make sure it isn’t too early! Ivf just doesn’t get any easier no matter how many hurdles you have already been through does it. I probably overthink every little detail but having had the worst of the worst outcomes with previous ivf /pregnancies, it’s hard not to.

Thank so much for your kind and very calming and positive thoughts. It all really helps.

I hope all is progressing well with your pregnancy😍xxxx

[Doodlebug23 in reply to Nes1005]

Pleased my post wasn’t just waffle lol! Certainly does not get any easier!! There’s always something to stress or worry about, and always a curve ball just when you think yep I know what I’m doing, I’ve got this! 🙈

Modified natural (and abroad) was what finally worked for me. I’ve just got a positive feeling for you with this transfer. What date is your transfer?

I had a wobble last week when supposed to stop progesterone and having a few cramps so called EPU. Scan Weds showed everything is exactly as it should be so I’m now weening off the pessaries - yay!! 💖

[Nes1005 in reply to Doodlebug23]

Definitely not waffle, it’s hard to be rational when you are in the thick of it, which is why others words on here in these moments help so much.

Yes, I hope this will be our time. Transfer is scheduled for Tuesday (my embryos were frozen at 3 days) , so I’ll have to fly out to Cyprus on Monday. It’s going to be a tough day to fly, it will be our beautiful boys heavenly 2nd birthday. He was born 3 June 2022💙. It’s really difficult to leave my partner on that day, but I’m going to fly late so we can mark it in the morning. We go to the Wimpey by our UK clinic which is where we went after his 7 &10 weeks scans which were such joyful days. …so it’s a special place. It’s such a mixed bag of emotions some incredibly painful but I am trying to see it that he will bring me luck for the transfer🙏

Ah bless you, I can totally relate, I couldn’t accept coming off lubion at 10 weeks even though I was staying on cyclogest until week 12, I was so petrified so in the end they gave me one extra week of it just to calm me down! Just remember your body is doing what it needs to do now and you have seen the evidence right there on the scan so try not to worry, your little bean is just fine and strong like you, it’s wonderful!!!

Thank you again for your kind and positive thoughts, I’m carrying all the kindness I’ve ever been shown on here with me. ❤️

[Doodlebug23 in reply to Nes1005]

He will be watching over you! 💙

[Estherlovescats]

Do you have a medication to prevent ovulation. I was on ganilerix and had to take it every morning until trigger. When it was trigger I think it stopped that morning and trigger was in the evening.

[MontsJ]

You’ve had lots of helpful replies. The coordinator is wrong, with or without Cetrotide you can ovulate early. It’s the reason why ideally you have blood monitoring as well as scans, you said you had blood tests, have they checked your LH?

[Nes1005 in reply to MontsJ]

Yes totally agree, I knew she was wrong but she got very defensive at hearing the opinion of the uk soonographer so I had to just give up as I want them to be nice to me when I go to Cyprus on Monday! I had had my bloods done the day before the scan and LH hadn’t peaked. Also went back for the free scan yesterday kindly offered by the scanning clinic and the follicle was still there but very big at around 23 so I should hopefully ovulated this morning! Honestly don’t know how we all go through this stress never mind multiple times, I never thought I’d have to be here on 5th cycle but got to keep fighting ❤️🙏

Thanks so much for your reply, very kind and means a lot. xxx

[MontsJ in reply to Nes1005]

Hope the timing works well. It’s a great sign all was ok if your LH was low on the day of your scan.

[Nes1005 in reply to MontsJ]

Thank you😊