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IVF Positive - good HCG- bleeding 5 days later

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I wonder if I am holding on to hope.

Had FET and on testing date was positive- HCG level 592 at first blood test. 5 days later and I have started brown spotting - not enough to fill a liner but with a few streaky bits- like the start of a period perhaps….. is this an impending miscarriage? Did anyone have the same and all okay? Being 5 weeks I cannot have a scan to rule out and clinic shut for the weekend. Positive or realistic replies welcome …..

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Nenad

hello, did you test your progesterone? Maybe you need more? Brown spotting doesn’t necessarily mean miscarriage. I’d get a repeat hcg blood test for reassurance and progesterone if you haven’t done so already xx

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Toffeepudding99 in reply to Nenad

I’m on Cyclogest - clinic said to up from 3-4 which I’m doing. Out of the UK at the moment so am going to book bloods in for when I’m back (Tuesday) - it’s just the unknown. A week or so later and a scan could give me reassurance or an answer- I’m stuck in limbo- googling like crazy which of course is giving me conflicting info. I would assume spotting early pregnancy not so much of an alarm but little bits of what looks like lining isn’t making me have much hope

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Nenad in reply to Toffeepudding99

Please don’t jump to conclusions and assume the worst, you’re far from that point. Right now you’re pregnant and spotting, that’s what it is. Upping Cyclogest is a good idea and it’s not too long till Tuesday now for your blood test. Please try to stop googling because as much as it’s got ample information, it won’t tell you what’s actually going on with you. Here if you need to chat xx

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Hopewhite

Hi I hope you’re well, brown spotting doesn’t necessarily mean miscarriage , there’s quite a lot moving and stretching inside so if it’s just a little bit it could still be that , or a small hematoma. Contact your clinic and I believe they should be able to refer you to EPU for a scan from week 6.

Hopefully it’s nothing serious, I hope it all gets better soon, all the best of luck xx

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Toffeepudding99 in reply to Hopewhite

I so wish I was 6 weeks- 5+1 only. It’s strange as it appears gravity is affecting the flow. I spotted yesterday went to bed expecting the worst would begin to happen overnight, had no cramps and liner bare this morning. As soon as I stood up and moved about spotting again and flow increased slightly- it’s not like a period but there has been some little bits of tissue when I’ve wiped- I understand you don’t lose tissue with implantation bleeding

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Hopewhite in reply to Toffeepudding99

I’m sorry that you’re going through this, I know it’s very stressful but not all bleeding means MC, i had bleeding at 5+5 and many other ladies shared their experience with me on how they went into a successful pregnancy after spotting/bleeding. It’s a good sign that you’re not having cramps, brown means old blood so it could be a small hematoma. I’m afraid you might have to wait a bit for the early scan, reach out to your clinic for reassurance in case they can check progesterone, hcg or do anything else, they might refer you straight away to EPU. I wish you all the best of luck, I hope it’s all ok in the end xx

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Ltry

I had very similar - bfp and then pink blood and brown spotting the following week accompanied by cramping. I continued to spot / bleed a little until around 9 weeks but the cause was never established, though my clinic seemed to think it was irritation from the pessaries. Everything was fine with the pregnancy and my son arrived safely 11 weeks ago 😊

Are you a able to get a repeat HCG? That's all my clinic would do before my viability scan which wasn't until 8 weeks. It helped reassure me as the numbers were going up.

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GraceFace

Hi there, I’m sorry to hear this is happening. I’ve had two successful IVF transfers, and didn’t bleed with the first, but I did with the second. That was about 7 dpt. It scared the absolute hell out of me, and I was in bits thinking it was all over. It was quite heavy too, but stopped after 4-6 hours. Anyhow, I had a scan later that day, and he was still there. He’s 3 months old now, and sleeping next to me. Bleeding doesn’t always mean loss x x

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Positive20

Toffee I was pregnant and at your stage had spotting that lasted maybe a week or more. Not a lot but I did keep ringing the clinic and they weren’t worried. Happy to say I have a beautiful healthy baby now. Xx

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Toffeepudding99 in reply to Positive20

Sadly passed lining and a small yellow jelly “thing” which I presume is the embryo sac 😢

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Me_and_Sparkle

I’ve had spotting / bleeding 3 times! The first turns out my clinic made a mistake and told me to stop the estrogen.. the other two I have no idea.

It’s much more common than you think especially with ivf. If you have no cramps that’s a great sign and brown means old blood!

I’m 12 weeks now despite all the bleeding and all my friends experienced the same.

Wish you a healthy pregnancy x

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Toffeepudding99 in reply to Me_and_Sparkle

Sadly passed lining and a small yellow jelly “thing” which I presume is the embryo sac 😢

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Me_and_Sparkle

also the streaky bits could be cervical fluid mixed with old blood and / or cyclogest.

Also it’s normal to have the discharge when you get up and move around x

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Toffeepudding99 in reply to Me_and_Sparkle

Sadly passed lining and a small yellow jelly “thing” which I presume is the embryo sac 😢

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50shadesofblue in reply to Toffeepudding99

I'm so sorry this happened to you dear. I went through literally the same thing three months ago. Some spotting at 5 weeks during the weekend when everything was shut and you're googling like crazy trying to reassure yourself, and then heavy bleeding with lining and stuff. Sending you big hugs and good luck for the furure xx

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RACMumm

I had spotting in all 3 of my pregnancies. Similar to you, nit filling a pad but streaks when I wiped etc. I had bleeding at 6-7 weeks that lasted around 5 days & again at 8 weeks which lasted another 3-4 days. I'm now 28 weeks with a very wriggly baby. Which pessaries are you using as often the progesterone is suspended in a waxy substance and that is not all absorbed so the discharge could be a combination of old blood and the pessaries. If you're using cyclogest, these cab be used rectally as well as vaginally and that can give your cervix a break if the pessaries are aggravating it. Stay posituvr. Whilst it's scary, sporting can be totally normal & as long as the flow isn't increasing substantially and you don't have cramps you have every reason to be posituve.

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Toffeepudding99 in reply to RACMumm

I’ve had quite a heavy bleed- like a period with lining - so sadly think I’ve miscarried

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RACMumm in reply to Toffeepudding99

I'm so sorry. It can still happen and have heard of lots of stories of heavy bleeds but understand its hard to hold on to hope when you've seen the blood. I think deep down we just know. I've had two early losses one with and one without bleeding and both times I just had a gut instinct. Hoping fir a miracle x

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Toffeepudding99 in reply to RACMumm

Clinic are saying to continue meds until it’s ruled out - but like you said - your gut just knows

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Wishinandahopin

I had spotting and very heavy bleeding on and off from 5 weeks to 8 weeks. Passed tissue, clots etc etc. At my 6 week scan after so much heavy bleeding I miraculously had a heartbeat, they also saw a hematoma (common with ivf) and said that could be causing the bleeding. Continued to spot and bleed till 8 weeks. I am now 18 weeks and things going well so far fingers crossed. So there is always hope. When I looked into this when I was so worried early on I read that 50% of ivf pregnancies experience 1st trimester bleeding. And with heavy bleeding it’s a 50/50 chance of keeping/losing the baby. So that’s not an insignificant good chance. Keeping everything crossed for you 🤞🏼🤞🏼

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Toffeepudding99 in reply to Wishinandahopin

did you pass lining with you bleeding? I have similar to what I’d expect from a heavy period. Not only that I don’t “feel” pregnant at all- not only ounce of any symptom - I just feel so deflated

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Wishinandahopin

mine looked like a period - the only thing I would say is I didn’t have any painful cramping with it, mine wasn’t continuous- the bleeding was on and off so I would heavily bleed for a few hours and then it would go back to just spotting etc. I also didn’t really have any symptoms at that stage. if it is continuous and getting heavier and you have bad cramps then yes that sadly might be a bad sign. Keeping everything crossed though x

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Toffeepudding99 in reply to Wishinandahopin

I haven’t had “bad” cramping but period cramping. I’m going to head to A&E on the advice of my clinic and probably wait half a day to hear what I know.

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Citizenerased83 in reply to Toffeepudding99

I'm so sorry for what you're going through right now. I had two early losses and know how painful it all is. I didn't find A&E helpful - they wouldn't scan me. I had to wait to go to the Early Pregnancy Unit the next day. Give them a call today and tell them what's happened. Hopefully they'll see you. I was 5 and a half weeks the first time around and they saw me same day. Sending you lots of hugs and really hope it's not bad news. Xx

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Toffeepudding99 in reply to Citizenerased83

I’m waiting for EPAU to call me to book me in today. What tests do they do? I’m really in the dark about how they’ll confirm the miscarriage. My cramps are on and off and have lasted two days now. They vere odd when I move position but very much like period cramps- in fact less uncomfortable than my usual as always rush for the paracetamol when on my period. I am still bleeding however. Urgent care centre said they if I fill a pad within an hour to go back and they’ll admit me - but it’s very much like a light period

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Toffeepudding99 in reply to Toffeepudding99

I also feel very sicky today- but perhaps they nerves

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Citizenerased83 in reply to Toffeepudding99

Hi, they do an internal scan and pregancy test to see what's going on. I'm so sorry you have to go through this. I know how scary it is. Have you got someone who can go to the appointment with you?If they can't see a gestational sac you may have to have blood tests a couple of days apart as they want to see that hcg is falling. This happened to me and it was really upsetting to keep having to go back to the EPU.

Sending much love. Message me anytime xx

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Toffeepudding99 in reply to Citizenerased83

Yes I have my mum coming with me. I flew back from Spain having attended my brother in laws wedding - such bad timing- and my son and husband are still there. My mum is amazing though. How long do the period type cramps last for?

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Citizenerased83 in reply to Toffeepudding99

I'm sorry, such awful timing. Glad your mum will be with you.

My cramps lasted a few days first time around and about a day second time around. I think it just differs really so hard to say. Xx

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Toffeepudding99 in reply to Citizenerased83

Thank you- and for taking the time to reply. This was our last ditch attempt before I hit 40 and of course it’s not affordable to just keep going. I almost feel it would’ve been easier to test negative and deal with that - then positive - hopes up- loss

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Citizenerased83 in reply to Toffeepudding99

I know what you mean. I'm 40 at the end of the year and it really weighs on your mind. And completely agree that it's easier having a negative result than the joy of a positive result and then loss. Really hope it's good news for you though when you have your scan xx

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Toffeepudding99 in reply to Citizenerased83

Scan showed nothing but as I expected as only 5+3. Bloods taken and came back higher than BHCG- from 592 - 693. So have to go back on Wednesday for more bloods. All so stressful and inconclusive. My bleeding tells me miscarriage so perhaps early part of the week hcg rocketed and 693 is actually the decreased reading - or slow rising which can indicate ectopic - although I have no general symptoms of this. It’s all a mystery

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Citizenerased83 in reply to Toffeepudding99

I'm so sorry that the scan didn't give you a definitive answer. It's so hard and really stressful. Hopefully it's not an ectopic pregancy and you'll get more clarity on Wednesday. Look after yourself and be gentle on yourself. Sending you lots of hugs x

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Hopewhite in reply to Toffeepudding99

Hi Toffee, I’m so sorry that you’re going through this , EPU can confirm if a miscarriage has happened with an internal scan , I had a MMC and that’s what they did to make sure everything had passed (plus pregnancy test). Same scan is done for early pregnancy bleeding to try to find a sac, heartbeat etc so one way or another they should be able to tell you better what’s going on, it’s so stressful to go through it my heart goes out to you. Remember to be kind to yourself, it’s a lot to take on. I send you a big hug x

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Wishinandahopin

ok, lovely I’m so sorry it’s so scary. Wishing you luck x

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Elmo13

Hi ToffeePudding. I’m so sorry to read what you’re going through. I know how scary it can be.

I had a spontaneous miscarriage back in April and was around 5 -6 weeks. The one thing I will say is that I had intense waves of pain- almost like what I’d expect contractions to feel like, and I had bright red bleeding. The pain only stopped once I had passed everything. I knew straight away I had miscarried due to what I saw and the intensity of the pain. When they did a scan the next day they couldn’t see anything on the scan. They did a HCG which was still high, but I had to go back a few days later for a repeat HCG to ensure it was going down.

Wishing you loads of luck, and hope your outcome is more positive than mine was. Stay strong. Xx

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Toffeepudding99 in reply to Elmo13

Really so sorry for your loss x

I haven’t had much pain - cramps yes but not as bad as my usual period pains where days 1-2 I usually wake in the night and fall back to sleep from exhaustion once ibuprofen has started to kick in. It’s just a minefield . I know I need to be patient and wait for Wednesday but having had IVF I’m quite done with waiting. I’d like to just have answers so I can stop my meds

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Becem92

Hi I am so so sorry you are going through this.

I had IVF last month, first cycle for unexplained infertility. I had what I thought was my normal period when my clinic told me I had a BFP! They told me I had to continue taking my progesterone pessaries and my HCG was rising, I then had lots of the brown spotting that I assume you were talking about, looks like lining/tissue.

I pushed for an early scan as my HCG then dropped slightly and they found it was Ectopic. I was so shocked as I didn’t think ectopic was possible with IVF but I have since then come to realise it is actually more common! I also didn’t have any major cramps, just one night of painful period cramps and that was it.

I had an amazing sonographer who found the ectopic and sent my straight to hospital. I was so thankful I didn’t experience a rupture!

Hope you get some answers soon!!

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