I think it's over for this pregnancy

[LuxFleur]

Today after I sent my doctor my HCG numbers, he said they were not good and that I needed to go for an emergency ultrasound. He said if I wasn't feeling well I needed to go right away, so I went to the pregnancy ER. Strangely, at the hospital they thought my numbers were okay, but then we did an ultrasound and she said she couldn't see anything in the sac. She said she couldn't tell me if it was a miscarriage or if everything was fine and it was just too early. She had my information, that it's three weeks after the transfer.

first HCG at 12dp5dt = 309

2nd HCG at 14dp5dt = 785

3rd HCG at 21dp5dt = 4,457

I don't know why my doctor thought those numbers were so alarming. He was worried about an ectopic I think.

Since I am now 5w3d, I feel like we should have been able to see something. I am 90% sure this is probably another miscarriage.

Anyone have any experience like this?

[HopeOfYou]

The good news is, at the hospital the doctors did see a sac, so definitely is not an ectopic.As for the scan, when I was pregnant the ultrasound scan clinic didn't do any before 6w3d.

So it is early, I know it's just simple to tell you that you can't do anything at this point, just wait for another week or so.

Keep us posted ❤️

[LuxFleur in reply to HopeOfYou]

thank you so much xo

[Nenad]

hello, when I was 5 weeks with my successful pregnancy, all they could see was a sac. Only at the 6-week mark will you know more I’m afraid. I know this next week will feel like an eternity but there’s sadly nothing to do but wait. Will be thinking of you xx

[LuxFleur in reply to Nenad]

Thank you. It;s a strange hard time.

[Nenad in reply to LuxFleur]

I know, you get what you want then you just can’t relax throughout. I had a few losses after my daughter so I know how worrying this phase can be. Please remember that you are in fact pregnant now and try to do things you enjoy in the next week to help take your mind off it sometimes xx

[Hidden]

Hi LuxFleur

I had a big bleed at 5 weeks, my beta was ok but not doubling at the time. The scan was also to rule out ectopic and they only saw a sac in the uterus at the time. It’s too early to see anything else. I had to wait two weeks before they could see a fetal pole and heart beat. I’m still not out of the woods as have a SCH. Things could go either way for me still.

But I wanted to reassure you that you’re probably not out just yet. Please try and stay hopeful and I will be thinking of you. I know when you’ve had heartache before it’s easy to assume the worst.

I will be thinking of you and wishing you the best. Take care x

[LuxFleur in reply to Hidden]

Thank you. It's so hard. My husband and I were devastated to be told something could be wrong already.

[Azzurra79]

Hello, sorry to hear you are in such painful uncertainty. Has your dr prescribed a progesterone test? My Dr seemed to think this can also be a good indicator of a viable pregnancy.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articl....

There are some articles that seem to suggest it is more reliable than a single HCG level.

Take care and will keep my fingers very crossed for you 🤞🤞

[LuxFleur in reply to Azzurra79]

Thanks but I have had three HCG tests, he is worried about the progression.

[MariaHdz]

Hello Lux,

Well, I was told that they can see something until around week 7 or even week 8. That on week 6 it can or not show. So week 5 can also be pretty early. So it could be that. For me, it was until the end of week 6 that I got an ultrasound and something could be seen. In my case, I had covid and a bad fall just after the FET, and bleeding (for months), so I was very scared.

I think that this is not bad news (if there is no bleeding or strong pains). I understand how hard it is, but try to not stress just yet. There is nothing you can do but wait, and stress can trigger certain reactions in the body that are bad for the embryo.

Over the progression, mine was not perfect on one of the times they checked, and I was panicking. But then on the next test it caught up. My doctors were too relaxed about it, I am glad that yours is more careful. Did your doctor asked you to do another HCG on Monday?

All the luck!!

[LuxFleur in reply to MariaHdz]

Thank you. No he did not ask for more HCG blood test, just told me to book another scan for next week after Wednesday.

[MariaHdz in reply to LuxFleur]

Ok, things are not lost yet. It could be that things are fine and then in 1 or 2 weeks something can be seen. I understand that it is very difficult because we are waiting for the worst, as the worst has already happened to us many times.When i started the pregnancy, i had a lot of bleeding until week 21. On week 14 i had to go to ER. They diagnosed me with placenta previa and told me that the umbilical cord was inserted wrongly and that it was clearly vellamentous and this might be causing the bleeding. They told me that this could be a problem as maybe not enough nutrients could be arriving to the baby. And I was so stressed out. Then 6 weeks later they told me that the cord insertion was fine. Probably because it was too soon, they interpreted it wrongly.

I hope this is the case for you too, that it is just too early and everything catches up. In some women, I have read that they have started with early twins and then one of them ends up in a chemical pregnancy and so the HCG, from being in the high range, seems to progress a bit more slowly suddenly because of this. Blastocists have more chances of splitting in identical twins.

[PenguinBlue]

Hi Lux, I know how anxious this time is for you so just wanted to say I’m thinking of you. Not sure if you’ve seen this calculator online but it shows that there’s a large variation in hcg and even if not doubling every 2 days, doesn’t mean something is wrong. babymed.com/tools/hcg-calcu...

It plots a line graph so you can see - I hope it gives you reassurance. I am currently pregnant and had hcg done around 5 weeks and it was not doubling every 2 days - perhaps a 70% increase over that period which really worried me - I am now 24 weeks.

In terms of your scan, 5w is so early to see anything! When I was pregnant with my son, the fertility clinic scanned me because I hadn’t had my period yet (for an upcoming FET) and they could only see a small yolk sac and I was 6wks. So I had to wait for a heartbeat scan at 7w to confirm.

Thinking of you and wishing you the best for this cycle with everything crossed. The wait for another scan is really tough but you are strong. Do whatever you need to to get you through these coming days xx

[LuxFleur in reply to PenguinBlue]

Thank you so much for that calculator. According to that one I am exactly normal. That is reassuring.

[PenguinBlue in reply to LuxFleur]

so glad to hear that it is looking normal for you - hope it has reassured you until your scan next week. Wishing you lots of luck and strength for this week and hope to see an update from you next week x

[LuxFleur in reply to PenguinBlue]

Actually I misunderstood how to put in the info, but I am still called "normal" it just falls a little below the red normal line. I don't know. I guess I have to wait and see.

[PenguinBlue in reply to LuxFleur]

hi Lux, mine was also the same in my current pregnancy - just a little below the average which really worried me too.

The red line is just an average and everyone will fluctuate either side which is very normal. Try to keep busy until your scan and wishing you lots of luck

[Olive_77]

Oh, I just wish they wouldn’t do scans so early - this just causes a lot of unnecessary anxiety. I had a scan at 5w1d and they could only see a sac. My HCG 20dp5dt was 3418. I had a repeat scan a few days later and everything was fine - my son is 3 months old now. 5 weeks is way to early to see anything. I know it’s hard by please try not to panic and do whatever is needed to keep your mind off it for a few days. Wishing you all the very best! ☺️

[LuxFleur in reply to Olive_77]

Thank you so much. They traumatized me so much. I don't know why.

[Purpledoggy]

Hi LuxFleur. I found this site helpful:

babymed.com/tools/hcg-calcu...

I entered your numbers and they are where they should be. It is quite early on the scan to see anything-are you having another one in a week? Keeping everything crossed for you xx

[lianm8]

not sure why your dr was worried those look like good progression numbers to me 🤷‍♀️ you wouldn’t see much on a scan before 6 weeks lovely 5 weeks is incredibly early to have a scan- I had a scan at 5ish weeks due to bleeding and they could only see the sac- a week later there was a fetal pole and im nearly 22 weeks now! Good luck xx

[LuxFleur in reply to lianm8]

thank you so much

[Nevergiveup21]

hi luxfleur,

I just wanted to add I went for an early em scan after fet at 5 weeks 3 days and saw only a sac nothing else I went back only a couple of days later and everything was there. I worried like crazy but the consultant at the clinic told me every day makes a huge, huge difference in what you can see. I now have a wonderful one year old. Your not out by a long shot. Wishing you all the love in the world and a healthy pregnancy going forward xx