Help with implantation failure tests!

[Hopecontinues]

Hi,

After 4 IVF cycles and 5 transfers, including 2 with donor eggs, I've only had BFNs. I want to test for everything, but the price is £4k for ERA, Emma, Alice, Immune and some other thrombophilia (I think that's what they said) test. Can anyone recommend the cheapest way to do these tests or somewhere that is reasonable? PM me please. 🙏

I've had 2 biome tests before and both came back fine last November, so I'm thinking I don't need all these tests. I'm also not sure about the blood clotting one, has anyone had this?

Many thanks

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[Nevergu]

I'm not sure where you based but ERA, EMMA & Alice only cost about £1600 in London if you do them at once. You should also get clotting tests done and NK cells if haven't done already. Have you tested donor embryos? Even young donor eggs can have abnormalities. We just tested our 2 and one came vack abnormal.

[Hopecontinues in reply to Nevergu]

Hi,

ERA, Emma and Alice is £1860. It's the thrombophilia and NK cells that take it to +£4k. I think the thrombophilia is the clotting test.

I haven't had any embryos tested, but I will next time.

Thanks for commenting.

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[Nevergu in reply to Hopecontinues]

If you go on Fertilysis website you can order your nk cells and blood clotting tests for circa £500. You will have to get someone to draw the bloods for you and ensure you ship back the same day. It's really easy once you get your head round it. Good luck x

[Hopecontinues in reply to Nevergu]

Wow, that is a great website with some very interesting information about infertility. I've booked a free 30 minute consultation. Thank you so much, you've probably saved me a lot of money. X

[Conceivingblee in reply to Hopecontinues]

Hi hopecontinues, did you have your free consultation with fertilysis? I'm wondering if it seemed a good option only test I haven't had is the NK tests and this seems cheap. Bit concerned about who I would convince to take my bloods in a healthcare setting lol. Don't know how my DR would see it?

Thanks in advance

[Hopecontinues in reply to Conceivingblee]

Hi,I had my consultation on Tuesday. They said they don't think NK cells are the problem, as that is more likely to cause miscarriage and they also don't think it's thrombophilia as I have tried clexane and Aspirin on previous cycles. They said I could try the nk cells test as it's not expensive.

I asked about ERA and was told a lot of clinics see no difference in outcomes, so they don't do it. I've been told that before by clinics abroad, but people swear by it on here, so I'm not sure what to make of it.

There is a holistic clinic near me who will analyse thyroid etc, so i think I'm going to try them as they have a doctor there who takes the blood sample. Maybe they'll also do the nk cells blood sample for me, not sure, but worth a shot. They do allsorts of tests for parasites etc and gut health, which apparently can cause infertility. Maybe you have a holistic health place near you who could take the bloods?

[Conceivingblee in reply to Hopecontinues]

Thanks for coming back to me, much appreciated. I'm not sure tbh will have to see if there is I've had 3 previous miscarriages up 2017 and then just never ever got pregnant again 9 implantation failures with IVF own eggs and 1 failure with donor eggs. So not sure what's up with me 😭🙈. I think I'm going to push my clinic to do low dose prednisolone without the test. Lots of people on here there clinics seem to be accomodating. Good luck on your journey 😘

[Hopecontinues in reply to Conceivingblee]

Hi,I've tried low dose prednisolone, clexane, antibiotics and it didn't work.

My last doctor said I needed uterine prp, which I don't think anyone does in the UK.

It's so difficult to know what to do. I really hope the next one works for you.

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[Conceivingblee in reply to Hopecontinues]

Oh wow well that's not helpful is it if noone does here. Soul destroying isn't it. 😭

[Millbanks]

Hi lovely, Sorry to hear about your previous cycles.

We had 5 FETs and 4 cycles, and were only lucky on our 6th go.

I had the ERA done prior to the 5th transfer but the adjusted time wasn't enough on it's own.

So I then had the immune panel done and it turned out I had high NK cells, and so was given prednisolone for our 6th transfer which worked.

My clinic gives inhixa (blood thinner) as a matter of course for every transfer so if you wanted to avoid having the thrombophilia test you could just ask them for that. I also took aspirin to help thin the blood.

To be honest, the immune panel was the most expensive, but for us it was the most useful - of course you don't know that until you get the results back!

Good luck whatever you decide xxx

[Hopecontinues in reply to Millbanks]

Hi,Congratulations on your 6th go. It's reassuring to hear success stories after so many attempts.

Can I ask what dose of prednisolone you were on? I had 15mg on my last cycle as a matter of course.

Many thanks

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[Millbanks in reply to Hopecontinues]

I was on 20mg xx

[McQueeny in reply to Millbanks]

Hi Millbanks sorry for jumping in, but I’ve been prescribed Prednisolone for our next FET (starting 10mg, then going up to 20mg) - how did you find it? any particular issues or side effects I should prepare for? Thanks xx

[Millbanks in reply to McQueeny]

Hi lovely!Hope you’re well ❤️

The only side affect I had was intense hunger! I just wanted to eat all the time… and I just gave in to it… other than that I didn’t get any.

Everything crossed for you xx

[McQueeny in reply to Millbanks]

Ah that’s good to know, thank you! And thanks so much 🤞🙏

Hope you and little one all well?? xxx

[Millbanks in reply to McQueeny]

We’re good thank you! Just past 3 months and things have definitely got easier ❤️❤️❤️

[McQueeny in reply to Millbanks]

Ah that’s amazing 🤩🥰