Covid Vaccination and TTC

[luthien]

So, been keeping an eye on the techincal lab documents for all three vaccinations available (and pending) in the UK, and they all advise if you're pregnant, could be pregnant or trying to conceive you should not have the vaccination. It also states that if you've had your first vaccination and think you could be pregnant, or are pregnant you should delay having your second dose until after. The advice did say (but has been removed as of Jan 2021) that you should wait 3 months after completing your last vaccination to get pregnant - I can't find the reason for that being removed as there's no additional evidence / clinical studies

However the UK Government advice is that the vaccinations are safe for all women of childbearing age unless you know you are pregnancy.

Here it comes; my question is then shouldn't all women not on contraception and ttc or just doing things naturally not have the vaccination? I.e. only women whom know there is very little chance they could be pregnant? I'm just asking because I raised this with my GP and he said it's a very good point because medically you are pregnant from the point of implantation therefore in a normal cycle there's about 14 to 18 days where you know you're not pregnant (he did note that some women still have a period during the early stages of their pregnancy so this isn't a definite thing). Hence my particular GP has advised against women ttc or using no contraception to have the vaccination. However the NHS advice remains the same as the UK Government advice.

What's your thoughts?

Why I'm asking; a few friends and have discussed concerns, we take supplements, vitamins, eat healthy to ensure our body is the best place for conception, implantation and embryo growth, we monitor our cycles, cervical mucus, complete LH tests. Then we're told that it's okay to have the vaccination without there being any clinical evidence for what it could do in the early stages of embryo development from conception up until a positive pregnancy test.

I feel like there's conflicting advice over what actually defines ttc and pregnancy.

[Beatrix_K]

Hey someone asked about vaccinations for pregnant women yesterday and I replied very simply to that. It IS a mine field but the royal college of obstetricians & gynaecologists which guides what doctors do in this area has a useful Q&A on their site for patients. The reason the JCVI (which advises uk govt) changed its guidance at start of year is that they have used worldwide preliminary data and - I *believe* -animal testing to reach their conclusion. Women TTC shouldn’t delay pregnancy as there is no evidence of harm and nothing genetically in the makeup of the vaccine that could be of harm BUT as you say there’s also no safety evidence either. There are 3 studies happening into this area - the first gets underway this month, I think. They’ve also been monitoring women who’ve fallen pregnant after the jab on a national database so some data exists - just not publicly available.

The RCOG basically says if you’re pregnant it’s a personal decision (to be taken with your consultant, risk assessed etc) but suggests this should not happen within first (or third) trimester because it’s such a very delicate stage. Which brings us back to, is it safe if you *think* you might be pregnant? No clear answer unfortunately. This of course does not consider ivf treatment either which I’m sure will need much more exploring.

Personally, I would go for it if trying to conceive naturally but as it stands (almost 12wks via ivf) I will defer as it won’t be routinely offered to me anyway and there is no safety/ efficacy data - hopefully we’ll see some soon because if it’s proven to prevent serious harm to me or my baby I’d like to have it!