Another chemical

[Orla9298]

Thought I’d update since today’s test is much lighter than yesterday, so we have another chemical going on. The third in a row since my early miscarriage.

Just wondering what testing people have had after multiple chemicals/implantation failure. Have the nhs done something for you? I’ve had my 2 nhs ivfs, but these last 4 cycles have all been natural and I have conceived on every one of them, just not sustained it.

Excuse the bright yellow on a couple of the tests, that’s what B-complex vitamins do to your wee sometimes 😂

[Tugsgirl]

Aww I’m sorry 😞 xx

[E_05]

So sorry to read this xx

[Ash2016]

Sorry to hear this Orla x

[vic77]

I am so so sorry sending hugs xxx

[Orla9298 in reply to vic77]

Thanks, it’s just bizarre! Just makes me think even with ivf nothing will stick!

[vic77 in reply to Orla9298]

It's the cruelest..have you had a scratch? Xx

[Orla9298 in reply to vic77]

Well these chemicals have all been natural conceptions, do people have a scratch for normal cycles?

[vic77 in reply to Orla9298]

Yikes i font know but sounds like an implantation issue and thatnis recommended to help with implantation ..might be worth considering for your ivf cycle anyway xx

[Hidden]

Oh my gosh I’m so sorry you’re going through this again. So cruel. I’ve had one last year it’s truly heartbreaking 😭💔

I would insist on a referral to a mc- my fertility doctor suggested professor Quenby as she is the leading miscarriage expert- you can be referred on the nhs but it will not include nk cell test. I didn’t go ahead with it -( long story) so I don’t know what tests would’ve been offered to me.

- I’ve heard ladies having vitamin D and thyroid looked at. Nk might be worth looking into- I have raised levels so I was prescribed low dose steroid for the early weeks ,and due to my endo I was prescribed progesterone pessaries.

Dr Alan Beers book is definitely an interesting read for more information ☺️

Thinking of you during this difficult time xoxo

[Orla9298 in reply to Hidden]

Ahhh, thank you, that’s a really helpful reply. My vitamin D is good and my thyroid is managed (I have underactive with hashimotos) but levels are correct, but with hashis I think I’m more prone to raised nk cells. My ivf clinic is planning to put me on steroids anyway for transfer just as a precaution - but makes me think maybe I would benefit even on natural cycles! I didn’t realise you can go to Coventry on an nhs referral? I asked for my progesterone to be tested the moment I got this positive, just in case It needs extra support, but the GP refused for some reason??

[Hidden in reply to Orla9298]

Aww the GP will refuse- I fought mine very hard and she agreed to clear it with a gynae who was my fertility doctor and he cleared it. Could you contact your fertility doctor and get him/her to authorise progesterone pessaries- it’s something a GP cannot rountinely prescribe.

Yes you can be refered to prof Quenby via NHS for recurring miscarriages.

Good luck xoxo

[Cinderella5]

Awww sorry to hear that! Cant offer any advice unfortunately!xx

[Hidden]

P.s I have just had another thought @Orla9298

Have you had a hysteroscopy to look inside your womb?

I Know many women are refered to have one after suffering miscarriages.

Sometimes scans cannot always pick up everything!

X

[Orla9298 in reply to Hidden]

No, I’ve only had the water test thing to check my tubes. I get confused - can the hysteroscopy be done via the cervix or is it like an op through your skin?

[Tugsgirl in reply to Orla9298]

It’s through the cervix xx

[Hidden in reply to Orla9298]

Tugsgirl is right it goes vaginally via the cervix and can get a more detailed image of your uterus and check for any structural abnormalities that may not show up on a scan.inside of looking at your tubes it's purpose is to assess for any structural issues such as polyps fibroids etc.

It is not a standard test for infertility testing- usually done after miscarriages, abnormal vaginal bleeding outside menstrual cycle. Sometimes they'll take a biopsy.

Some surgeons will combine laparoscopy ( incisions are made in the narvel area) and hysteroscopy together. So they look inside and outside of the uterus to see exactly what is going on.

Laparoscopy is useful to check/treat endometriosis ( basically the cells in your uterus lining that go outside your uterus and the cells turn into implants and cannot break up so get inflamed and painful) Endometriosis is odd- some have little and lots of symptoms others have severe endometriosis and no symptoms. Endo is usually found via laparoscopy- most scans can't detect it unless you have the endo chocolate cysts on your ovaries I dont know if you've had a lap before.

I have Endometriosis. Since my miscarriage my symptoms are back so I'm having both laparoscopy and hysteroscopy, biopsy and possible treatment of endometriosis.

Do remember I'm not medical! Your consultant will be able to advise you what is best for you 😊 xoxo

[Aleelilook]

Oh I’m so sorry 😔 have you had your progesterone levels checked? I don’t absorb it very well and have to be on pessaries and the injections, might be worth asking them. Also your gp should refer you now to a miscarriage clinic. Thinking of you xxx

[Orla9298 in reply to Aleelilook]

I know, my gp has been rubbish but my normal woman hasn’t been available. I’ll try and get her next week. And no, they have point blank refused to test my progesterone - I would have thought that would be the most obvious thing to check if someone keeps losing pregnancies soon after implantation! My usual gp is helpful so I’m going to try and get to go in to see her for a chat next week. Cramps are starting now so think this will be it this weekend. Xx

[Aleelilook in reply to Orla9298]

Why are the doctors so shit? I don’t understand why they can’t just perform a simple blood test 😩 hopefully your usual lady will sort it out xx

[AllWeNeedIsluv]

I'm so sorry go read this lovely I was hoping you'd feed back with lovely news. Defo sounds like you need more investigations hun. Hope the drs get to bottom of this it's truly heartbreaking. Big hugs lovely 💗💗🤗😘😘

[TTCs]

Im so sorry...thinking of u 💕

[sanchia46]

What's your progesterone dose. Perhaps this needs to be increased?