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Hi, new to this so please bear with. I've just had a failed cycle with ivf which is soul destroying. I've got a hydrosalpinx and my consultant decided that we go ahead and if it fails then he will look at surgery. Just wondered what my chances would be if I had clipping or full removal to then get a succesful bfp. I'm really scared that if I have surgery and it still doesnt work. Everything else is fine in terms of uterus, eggs etc. I had 8 embryos on my first cycle all of which were good quality and had 4 frozen. What do you think my chances of success are after surgery? Please help :)

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DianeArnoldPartnerNurseFertility Network UK

Hi destiny121. So sorry to hear of your failed IVF cycle, which is soul destroying as you say. I’m sure you are fully aware of this condition, but just in case I’m going to go through my explanation of it, and hopefully it will help you to come to a decision. The condition called “hydrosalpinx”, which when translated, simply means water in the tube! Fallopian tubes have a natural lubrication in them to allow sperm to swim and the egg to travel down. Occasionally, the end of the tube(s) called “fimbriae” stick together. This then blocks the “exit” for excess fluid to escape. There is then only one way out for this fluid and that is through the womb end of the tube. Many consultants now believe that this excess of fluid can prevent implantation of a developing embryo, as it can be “washed” out. Because of this the tube is often dealt with by either removing it or clipping it to prevent the "wash back". Lots to think about, but maybe the best decision to sort it to give your frozen embies a better chance. Lots to talk over with your specialist. Thinking of you. Diane

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destiny121 in reply to DianeArnold

Ahhh Thank you, that's very helpful. So you think the best thing is to have the surgery which should make my chances better?

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DianeArnoldPartnerNurseFertility Network UK in reply to destiny121

Hi destiny21. Discuss it fully with your specialist, but it is the general way forward. I'm sure the ladies on here who have had to make similar decisions will give you their thoughts too. Diane

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ditsy999

Hi Destiny,

I have the same issue. On my last FET, we got to the scanning stage and the consultant discovered I had hydrosalpinx. My consultant advised to have my tube clipped before we proceed with FET, as there is less chance of implantation. I have my Laparoscopy on Wednesday and I rather go down this route, rather than risk it. You consultant should give you all options available to you and then you can make the decision. My left tube is fine, its my right one that was first blocked and now leaking. Good luck x

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destiny121 in reply to ditsy999

Ahhh good luck for Wednesday, hope everything goes to plan for you. Regarding having one tube that is all ok, do you think natural pregnancy could occur as I'm thinking of just having the one clipped...what do you think? Or best to just clip both. Seems like one thing after the nxt but I'm sure a bfp will be on the horizon once dealt with :)

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ditsy999 in reply to destiny121

It depends if both tubes are leaking. If its just one tube, then only clip that tube. Theres no need to clip the other one, this way a natural pregnancy will still be possible. Considering you are doing IVF, I'd say there isn't much chance anyway, but miracles happen, so why clip both tubes if you don't need to. x

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destiny121 in reply to ditsy999

yep your right....thx :)

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Leesalou

I had this on my first ivf when I was private and it was unsuccessful, I had one tube removed and tried naturally but bathing then I went on nhs this round & nhs they wouldn’t do anything until I had all the test found to have it in my only tube and it was clipped and it definitely is worth sorting it before you do ivf again as the liquid/fluid is toxic I believe to the egg, anyway had mine clipped in December had my ivf in July and I’m currently 13 weeks pregnant,

Wishing you lots of luck xx

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destiny121 in reply to Leesalou

Thats great news, congratulations. It seems that having them clipped or removed increases your chances greatly. I'm lucky to have another 2 goes on the nhs so I'm not out of it just yet.....it's just such a long process. But its great to hear so many success stories. Did you have one go at ivf after having the tube clipped and then got your bfp?

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Leesalou in reply to destiny121

Yes I had due clipped in December (the other one was removed ages ago) then April I started metformin and then July started my cycle on the nhs and was successful so yes one cycle after tube clipped,

But was my 2nd cycle altogether and the first was private and failed more than likely due to hydrosalpinx

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destiny121 in reply to Leesalou

Ahh this is just is what I needed to hear. I can't wait to have the op...just want to do it now! If only that was the case. Love hearing these positive stories x

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cls37

Hi, I had mine drained during egg collection. Consultant was reluctant to do the laparoscopy due to previous surgery and risks involved! X

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LHow81

I had had both my tubes removed before I had any IVF cycles all 3 of my fresh cycles failed and I only managed one frozen from all of those and I got my BFP my little boy is almost a year old now 💙 Good luck to you xx

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destiny121 in reply to LHow81

Another positive story...Congratulations. I just wish I listened to my consultant before having my first go...but you live and you learn.

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Nickimidge

Hi, sorry to hear you’ve had a failed ivf cycle! I was diagnosed with a hydro in my left tube 8 months ago i had several scans my last one showed that the fluid had actually disapeared which my gynae said was good news but was still happy to go ahead with a lap and dye as i was majorly worried about my tubes i had my lap and dye 2 and a half weeks ago, i have now been told that both my tubes are actually blocked but there was no sign of any fluid, i have to wait until 15th december for my follow up gynae appt but went to see my GP and he said theres no way i’ll get pregnant naturally and even if i did theres a huge risk of ectopic so he wants me refered straight to IVF and would be writing to my gynae, i asked if my tubes would be removed or clipped as in my area we are only entitled to one cycle at ivf on the nhs and want my best possible chance at it and he said it depends what my gynae says as some will remove/clip them and some won’t! So i’m now impatiently waiting for december to come. Xxx

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destiny121 in reply to Nickimidge

The waiting is the hardest a[rt as you just want to start the treatment....it's a long road but will all be worth it in the end. Hope the op goes well and then you'l get your bfp x

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Apswhite

Hi I had both tubes clipped May 2014. We were successful on fourth IVF. Now have a beautiful 6 month old boy. Good luck with your journey. X

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destiny121 in reply to Apswhite

Ahhh such good news and gives me more hope. Thank you. How many rounds of ivf did you do after having them clipped?

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Apswhite in reply to destiny121

I was clipped before I started any rounds. So all 4 were after. I had very low egg count & quality due to me being 39 back in 2014. You already have good embryos so could be an easier journey for you. I recommend endometrial scratch if your clinic do it. The op for clipping was fine so don't worry about recovery. Take care & good luck for the next round x

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destiny121 in reply to Apswhite

thanks for this, I was just trying to get an idea of how many cyles I may need to do:)

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Apswhite in reply to destiny121

Mmm now that's an impossible question to answer 😔 It can & does happen so don't give up. X

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