Another BFN.....

[NDE1987]

So I have been testing since Friday and I keep getting negatives. My offical test date is tomorrow but I know what is coming.

I dont understand how a perfect hatching embryo didnt stick....I feel confused, upset and angry.

I feel my endromestosis is not helping the situation and feel like I have a implantation problem as this is my second cycle. I can't afford to keep doing IVF, its expensive, mentally and emotionally draining.

I just wanted to know if you ladies know a place where I can go to get further tests done to see if I do have implantation issues.

I have 4 frosties in the freezer but I want to get checked for these issues before I got ahead with a FET.

I don't want to rush anything and even if it means I do the frosties in a year or two, I am willing to wait until I get tests etc done.

Just feel so broken

xxx

[Tugsgirl]

Hi. I had a perfect hatching blastocyst transferred on my first treatment in September (fresh cycle) I also had a tri-laminar lining which is basically the best lining; a triple layer. I got a bfn. Because I'd had one chemical pregnancy years ago and because this blastocyst failed to implant and because of my age, the clinic offered a miscarriage and implantation failure bloods test. They took 6 vials of blood. It cost us £850. All came back as normal. I'm glad we had them done though as it gave me some reassurance if nothing else! Do your clinic offer something like that you could look into? I'm sorry things are not looking positive for your otd tomorrow. Thinking of you xx

[NDE1987 in reply to Tugsgirl]

Hey tugsgirl thanks for replying. I will need to speak to my clinic but I don't think they do these tests, so will need to look at going somewhere private. I found a place in Coventry that take a biopsy of the womb and test if for nk cells. It's all a bit to much tbh. I want to save my forzeb embryos until I know that there is nothing else wrong with my body. It's just a tough time, I can't stop thinking and crying. I can't imagine my life without having a child, but may have to accept that it may have to be like that x

[Tugsgirl in reply to NDE1987]

It's a scenario most of us are faced with on here sadly, but please don't give up. One of your beautiful frosties could be the one! 🤞 x

[Sprinkles86 in reply to NDE1987]

Hey NDE I am going to Coventry this month for the NK Cells testing, as I've had all the miscarriage screening done and all came back normal... I found quite a bit of info about the Coventry/Warwick clinic on the tommy's website as I was a bit overwhelmed by it all too. Have a read and it may help xxxx

[NDE1987 in reply to Sprinkles86]

Thanks so much for the information sprinkles, could you please keep in touch and let me know how your appointment goes? I don't want to rush into anything but it would be great to get some feedback. Hope it all goes well x

[Sprinkles86 in reply to NDE1987]

Yes definitely, I'll message you so it will remind me lol... I've had every test under the sun so I'm kind of hoping they do find something on this one! I also have severe endometriosis so I'm having weekly reflexology with a fertility specialist to try and manage it. I've also sent off hair samples for intolerance and nutritional info, looking to go gluten and grain free as this helps with inflammation. Lots to take in but the pain from the endo is so bad at the moment I'll try anything xxx

[Hidden]

On my first try with donor eggs I had a top grade hatching blastocyst put back and it failed, I did have my thyroid and anti bodies checked after this and all came back clear. Just had a fet with two blastocyst put back and got my BFP xx

[NDE1987 in reply to Hidden]

Thanks button, you have given me hope. I hope my FET cycle goes well, just can't face actually having to pay for ivf again. We will still try naturally. My husband keeps reminding me I'm young, but to me my amh is low so I feel like I'm an older woman x

[Hidden]

Oh sweetheart I'm sorry- I really hope tomorrow does a complete turn around and it's a positive.

I think it's a really positive move to have further tests done if worst happens tomorrow ( I really hope it doesn't).

I had my natural killer cells blood test done last year at a private clinic- it cost us about £400- we saved up a few months! We had it done whilst waiting around for our initial consultation. If you like I can message the name of the clinic? Mine back raised at 12%- normal range is under 10%. Although it's raised my consultant didn't think it should prevent us conceiving as it's not over 15% but if I was confirmed to be pregnant he would prescribe low dose steroids to take for the early weeks as a precaution. I also as you know have endometriosis too- and I wonder if there is a link between autoimmune diseases and endometriosis. Obviously I'm not medical- ask your consultant for his/her opinion. The other thing to consider if you are considering NK test- is to check which one your consultant prefers - the biopsy or the blood test- mine preferred the biopsy- but will go with my blood test.

Thinking of you x x x

[NDE1987 in reply to Hidden]

Hi Jess, thank you for replying. I hope your recovery is going well. If you could private message me the details that would be great. I did find a place in Coventry that does the tests. I just want to make sure nothing else is wrong. This journey is sooooooo tough. I keep thinking why me!!! X

[Oliverl in reply to NDE1987]

Hi would you mind messaging me the details of the place in Coventry xx

[Aga_R]

Hi Hun

I'm so sorry, fingers crossed for tomorrow 😘😘

[NDE1987 in reply to Aga_R]

Thanks Aga xx

[KittyK]

Hi sweetheart, are you on clexane and baby aspirin (75mg)? Also did you get the scratch? After my miscarriage I had the scratch in combination with both these medications and I swear this is what helped our cycle work this time. If it is negative tomorrow can you ask your clinic about them? Fingers crossed tomorrow brings a surprise xxx

[NDE1987 in reply to KittyK]

Hey Hun, I will ask my clinic but I don't think they do the test. They do a endro scratch, but I was told I didn't need it as I had a lap operation. I hope it does work out but I just don't have no hope of faith left. I did have baby aspirin on my first cycle, but this cycle I decided to do it all natural x

[KittyK in reply to NDE1987]

Hi Hun, I didn't have a test at all with mine. Literally after the miscarriage I quite bluntly said I need some assurance this time will be different because I couldn't justify doing another cycle without something changing and they said they would prescribe me the clexane and the aspirin. I swear clexane is the reason this worked this time. It was horrid injecting myself in the belly but I swear it worked. I didn't have any tests I just asked and that was their advice. I hope it is a surprise tomorrow but if it's not I'm sure you can ask for clexane or something similar, you're paying for it after all and you deserve your little bean. Xx

[nicknick]

Hi, I am sorry to know your story. Have you discussed yr situation with yr doc? You might consider doing karyotyping or checking out vit D level, if you think the implantation is the issue. I agree that ivf is emotionally and financially draining. What about undergoing yr treatment at overseas clinics, e.g. Czech, Spain or Poland (ivf with PGS NGS costs from 2 500 Euros in Gdansk top ivf clinic)

[NDE1987 in reply to nicknick]

Thanks hun, I will speak to my consultant on my next appointment. I am going to make a list for questions and other tests I can do x

[CountryCat]

I am so sorry hunny! 😢 This whole process sucks...months in time, buckets of money, punishing emotions, physical changes, regimented days and still we have nothing to show for it 😤It is enough to finish anyone off!!

I had a bit of a breakdown last night and just couldn't stop crying. I have never felt my existence was more pointless!!

I think you are very wise to pursue investigation into implantation issues. I hope this gives you clarity and information you can use in your future cycles. Once again, I am so sorry and sending massive hugs your way xxx

[NDE1987 in reply to CountryCat]

Thanks hun, I hope it works out for you. It's a emotional journey and I hate updating people on the outcome. I only told 2 people this time, but I hate that I have to update my manager on the result this week... X

[CountryCat in reply to NDE1987]

Thank you, that is so kind xx I know...it's agony. Having to rehash it to people is so hard...they will never understand the heartache! We only told my in laws and my sister but I am already dreading telling them.

Once again, I so hope the verdict changes overnight but if not, I will be thinking of you and how brave you have been xx

[Cinderella5]

I'm sorry NDE1987 ! Hoping it turns around for you tomorrow!xx

[NDE1987 in reply to Cinderella5]

Thanks hun x

[Sherry07]

Hey, I'm sorry to hear this. Hope everything turns around tomorrow hun xx

[Hidden]

Hi NDE im terribly sorry for your home bfn.hoping you get better news tomorrow.i have no advice to offer .just to wish you luck .iv had two failed cycles and it would be nice to get answers on why implantation fails.good luck

[NDE1987 in reply to Hidden]

Hey Hun, it would be good to get some answers!! Just seems like a stressful time and I feel like giving up x

[Hidden in reply to NDE1987]

It is so frustrating .hang in there.xx

[Tara123]

Hey chick sorry to hear u are going through a tough time it's really stressful and head blowing time but keep strong and keep thinking possitive easier said than done i know I really hope u get the answeres u are looking for and can use the 4 frosties when ever the time is right for u have u done a test this morning ? Xxx

[Tara123]

Hey chick r u ok? Only now seen it post hugs to u hope ur ok xx

[NDE1987 in reply to Tara123]

I'm ok Hun, thank you and hope your doing well xd

[Georgina78]

Hi Hun I've just seen this as I haven't been on here for a little while..so sorry this was the outcome for you. It just sucks, I hope you get some answers and one of your little frosties is the one xx

[NDE1987 in reply to Georgina78]

Thanks hun, just like you I feel like I have an Implantation issue. I'm doing good, feels like we are just dealing with it. I will still try naturally but I just want a break from ivf at the moment. We have our follow up appointment next week and I will be bringing up the implantation issue x