57 yo, ivf?

So… I was diagnosed with nothing else but my age.

Ok I know that I am old and I know I don’t have another chance… but do you think that surrogacy is my only chance? I am 57 years old and I know that my ovaries don’t function already but apart from that I am healthy I think, like I haven’t had any issues with my reproductive system before. In fact I have already had a child (but it is a long story). I know that my reproductive system is long time dead already and I don’t think that I would be able to carry a baby at my age. So I guess the surrogacy is my only way. But I am not that sure, I was thinking about other options maybe, for example adoption would be also nice, it won’t be that hard I think. I haven’t made my research on this yet, but I hope that I can pretend to adopt a newborn… I don’t know. Of course it would’ve been great if I could undergo ivf treatment. And I think this is what bothers me the most, and I would like to get advice from all of you. do you think that it can be somehow possible for me to have kids with ivf? Or I am too old for this?

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  • Hello, calmity! Your wish is natural and your age not always matters. Lately I was looking for advice here and on other sites, cause I couldn't decide what to do ivfor surrogacy. While searching for a right solution I met an article about a woman who was pragnant and delivered a baby successfully at the age of 66!! Can you imagine that!?!? That's totally incredible but it gives a hope for women like us...I guess you should at least try and have an interview with a doctor. If your health state allows you to bear a child why not to try it? If you won't achieve a success here, so then you can find a surrogacy program in your country or abroad or move to adoption because it's never too late for it.

    Wish you all the best!!

  • thank you so much! it is really surprising that there are women who gave birth at that age!! amazing, so basically it all depends on my overall health condition, right? and it does not matter whether i am old or young? because i am so desperate, ever since my boy died i was mourning for him but time flies and our depression and sadness too. and now as i feel this emptiness i can't do anything but think about having another kid, whom i would give all the love of the world.

    but do you know something about like an age limit? i know that it exists, but I suppose that not everywhere, right?

  • Oh God! I'm so so sorry for you loss...I know that no words won't give you comfort. But you have to live your life to the fullest!

    Having a child at this age still sounds like a myth for me but it's real. I'm not an expert in this area as I didn't even try to get pregnanat other than natural way. But today I did a big step and want to start my treatment. I've studied this subject deliberately and I feel like a profi now :-) I found out that some limits exist but can't tell you for sure in what countries and for which procedures.

    I wish you all the best and beg you not to give up! xxx

  • thank you you are so sweet, I can't say that my pain is in the past but for now I feel better, still memories come and go but I know that i am at least stable right now.

    I won't give up, I know that there will be a chance for me. dr told me that if i try hard enough I could get pregnant with ivf de. so I am thinking about this option seriously right now.

    xx

  • Glad to hear you're mostly ok, honey. Not to give up is the best decision, really. Good girl!

    I tried to find some information about age limits throughout Europe and if I'm not mistaken, every country which provides de ivf treatment has a limit of 45 years, in the Czech Republic it's 47 and the only country without limits i've found is Ukraine. It' s a great coincidence as I'm going to be in a clinic there on Mon for my first consultation before signing a contract on starting my own de ivf treatment. Maybe it's a high time and for you too? xoxo

  • I have been thinking about you know, travelling to another country for the treatment, as it looks it is my only chance you know, ivf de treatment.

    this is very strange because I was advised to go to Czech by someone but this is clearly not the best advice to give to a 57 yo woman, don't you think??

    and, where are you going exactly? the city, the name of the clinic, you say that they provide tz for women of all ages??

  • haha yeah, those who advised it likes joking..of course you can't go to the Czech, it's silly. Don't they know that there are some age restrictions there uh.

    I decided to go Ukraine, Kiev. There is a clinic called Biotex and yes there are no age limits at all, well you must be adult though.

  • haha you must be an adult it is a great requirement for someone who is going to have a ivf treatment.

    so you just wrote the clinic you liked and that's it? why this clinic though?

    there are so many mentions of it on the forum, I must take a closer look at it..

  • haha, yeah

    yes, I wrote them, find out what should be done to have a treatment there, when it became clear I meet their requirements, we decided to make an appointment...and voila! I choose it because of its attractive offers. They have exactly what I need. I had few unsuccessful ivf attempts and i don't wwant to lose money in vain thus I need a clinic with some guarantees..and here we are.

    You definitely should take a closer look at it!

  • You may want to check out fertility friends. The 'forum' board will show lots of options but this place might be a good place to start fertilityfriends.co.uk/foru...

    Very friendly women on there (and men too sometimes)

    Good luck with your research x

  • thank you so much!! I will be glad to join fertility friends community as soon as possible.

    Lots of love!

  • Hello hunny! I'm sory to hear about your loss and I can understand your desire to have a baby. We all deserve to leave a part of ourselves after we'll leave this place. You now have different options and if you're healthy you have even a chance to deliver a healthy kid! You still can go for DE IVF treatment...if there are no contraindications. Of course you need to visit your doctor and only then you'll know are there any or you can simply start your ivf. You should check your hormone level, make ultrasounds and other different tests. Besides your husband also has to make sperm test. If you have none, then you can use DS. If the results are not satisfactory, then you may try surrogacy or adoption.

    As far as I know there are still some age limits in Europe. I had IVF in the Czech Republic when I was 46 but at the age of 48 I was no longer allowed to have new attempts. Tha last attempt of ivf I made was in Ukraine, there are no maximum age requirements. If you have more questions, please feel free to ask!

    Good luck to you honey! xxx

  • at 48 you can no longer try it in Czech? wow... you know i thought at least 50 years old would be a barrier but no, they had to go further. why?? but it didn't work out for you in Czech right? why?

    and why did you decide to go to Ukraine? also because the coutry has no age limitations or something??

  • Sometimes I don't understand why such limits exist but then i think of myself as of a 60-70 yo woman having a child studying at highschool then college and I'm afraid, no I'm terrified...what if I won't see ny lovely grandchildren, ha?? And it seems a little selfish of us to leave our kids so early...But I couldn't do nothing with this desire and still don't regret it, only sometimes when i look at my Lily (3) i feel a little bitterness...That's why i think majority of countries have limits.

    InUkrine hohwever there are none. But you see there is no need to wait any longer as we are just hostages of time.

  • i am not thinking that far, like I want to have a baby and to raise him or her well, this is the only thing I desire! if there is still a chance for me to get pregnant, I will go for it without any other thought, just because this has been my dream and I can't just betray myself.

    thank God there is still a country that actually cares of older infertile women.. cause I am so tired of like finding a clinic and then I am unsuitable there.

  • I understand you, it's our nature haha..we women and if we want something so bad, then we'll do everyting and even more especially if it's about babies!

    Were you looking for a clinic? have you contacted any? If you are still trying to find one then I can advice you the one that made me a mom.

  • oh I haven't signed with any but I have been looking at ukrainian clinics, because i found out that in Ukraine there are no such thing as an age limit and I might have a chance of conceiving there, it was only like a contacting think, sending emails you know, nothing too serious like signing the contract. and of course I would love to receive an advice from you!!!

  • right, Ukrainian clinics are siutable for every age and nationality, you know in some countries it is allowed to do, for example, surrogacy but only if you are a citizen of that particular country.

    I was looking for a clinic for a long time and the first country I chose was the Czech republic but 2 ivf courses were failed. I can't say the fault is theirs, no way. but it was definitely more expensive, I bought everything I need on my own and you know it's not that convenient. talking about Ukraine, you simply need to fly there and the rest will be done and covered by your clinic. I don't know if every Ukrainian clinic has such terms in their contracts but my had it. The name of clinic is BioTexCom. You can google it, there are loads of info on the internet and you have a free access to prices and contract clauses. If there is something I could do for you, feel free to ask .

    Lots of luck!!xoxox

  • thank you! I have heard something about a clinic that provides their clients with everything necessary. I am very surprised, because as I thought all of the clinic put all of the expenses on their clients and customers and it makes it even harder to think about the total sum you are going to need in the future right??

  • Totally! It may seem it's not that difficult to do all that stuff by your own but infact ...pff it's ridiculous. It makes you spend too much time and lots of money. So, while contacting any clinic ask about total sum and what should you pay for.

  • I was to Czech too and we had like 2 ivf attempts there, both on my donor's eggs, even though it was a donor, they said they have collected only like 9 eggs and only one of them were fertilized BOTH TIMES. Which a nonsense!

    so both of the times were failures and they have said that there is like a chance for us to have another 3 rd round for free but we didn't want to stay there.

  • But maybe it was like male fertility factor? How did the clinic explain this? Because to be quite honest 9 is a small number for eggs collected from a donor, I know that donors can give like up to 50 eggs (ideally of course). 9 is not that great…. And like they couldn’t survive till the blastocyst stage??

  • They said that my hubby’s spermatozoid couldn’t reach the egg cell which sounds like a bullshit, because all of the tests my hubby had showed that his sperm is fine, normal. I don’t know… I was shocked and I have decided to stop all of the attempts there and change the clinic, I don’t want to stay in Czech because I didn’t have a nice experience there too.

  • Oh..so sorry to hear that! I also had DE but there were like 15 eggs and 12 fertilized but on day 5 few died and 10 were left and 4 of them were of a good quality ready to transfer. Anyway it didn't give any result and we don't know the reason

  • 4 survived till the 5 day?? wow, in Czech? I guess we definitely used different clinics but they still have some problems with impregnating their clients lol

    and you moved to another clinic, right? in Ukraine you say.. because I am thinking now where to go as the ivf treatment is either banned or too expensive, I am looking at cheaper countries for now, Ukraine of course is one of them, but i am not sure whether it is a great idea to go there..

  • even 10 survived but that 6 were poor and had no chances to stick. haha maybe you're right, I don't want to call its name anyway.

    Right, I was in Kiev (capital of Ukraine). fertility clinics are guite popular among european countries so the thing was to chose the one which fits us the most. Well you know it depends on what you've got and what you need I guess. We choose biotexcom and it worked for us. Although I had lots of hesitations before we travelled there, I'm grateful now for our daughter, that means our choice was right...

  • wow really? strange it is.. like I mean, donors have to produce at least 15 eggs but maybe the stimulation was kind of softer than I have heard of...

    but the problem of course is with that only one was fertilized which is a mess honestly. change the clinic, i doubt that for their 3 free attempt you will be getting a bfp.

    PS how did you find their hotels and transportation services?

  • what do you mean "their hotels and transportation services"?

  • Didn’t they offer you the flat to stay in? didn’t they offer you the transportation? What about the interpreter? I know that some clinics do that and it is even stated in the contracts you sign..

    Or you paid for everything from your own pocket?

  • 57 is may be still considered young honey!! not like I am trying to empower you over being to old or something no, it is just, have you heard the news about one indian woman who delivered a baby at the age of 72??

    so don’t think that it is impossible for you and that you are too old, nah, you are still young for ivf haha

    good luck!

    PS maybe you have some updates? what does your gyno say or maybe you have contacted a fertility center? what did they say if so?

  • 72... let me digest that.. 72 HOW???

    how is it even possible? she must be so healthy, in her 72 yo to deliver a baby...

    my gyno said that i am healthier than an average woman can be at my age, and if i try hard enough I may have high chances of getting pregnant. and I have been looking for a clinic in Ukraine as it turns out that not every country is going to support older women when it comes to their desire of being pregnant and delivering kids. terrific!

    thank you so so much!!

  • I am 52 and we have been contacting 5 clinics, out of which we have chosen 3 and are going to visit all of them in a short period of time to see which one is better. I am also opting for egg donor fertility treatment and must say that there was never a thought in my mind about my age, I just knew that we would have to look closer on eastern europe clinics because almost all of the fertility centers are closed for women older than 50 yo or even 45 or something.

    so yeah, i hope you didn't give up and still thinking about getting yourself a baby!!

    xx

  • oh! so we are kind of in the same position! How do you feel? what do you think about your chances, do you have any high hopes? what did your dr said about your desire to go for a baby? was he against this decision? or you were given a green light?

    yeah, I already know about this stupid age restriction situation in the world, I am not a fan of that either but it makes the searching process faster, dont you think.

    thank you!!

    lots of love

  • i had all kinds of appointments and as I checked everything, my health is fine and I was told that I can carry and deliver a baby, of coourse my hormones are not on their best level, but I guess that they are in the norm, especially when it comes to egg donor treatment, like I am not going to be stimulated on my ovaries, it will be just my endometrium and that's it.

    this is very stupid but we should be grateful for what we have. I am trying to appreciate everything.

    xoxox

  • that's great, I was also told that I am ok to go for ivf treatment if i want to. but of course money is the huge issue here. I want to find the clinic where they will guarantee that I would have to pay this sum without any additional expenses you know. because i can't budget such a thing..

    xx

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