CKD and Intermittent Fasting safety?

[ckd50ishfemale]

Hello! I’m new here and was diagnosed with beginning Stage 2 CKD. Looking for information about intermittent fasting safety. Was surprised I couldn’t find info on the national kidney foundation’s website. Research online says different things. Does anyone have information? Please and thank you!

[Subtle_badger 16Kg IF 72hrs]

Welcome ckd50ishfemale . Please take anything I ever say to you as an opinion from a software tester. I am not a doctor or a biologist. The only thing I can offer you is a suggestion for further googling.

That being said, my personal fasting guru is Dr Jason Fung, a Canadian nephrologist who is now promoting fasting - multi day fasting - through is commercial website

thefastingmethod.com

But mostly he is not commercial. Here is he explaining about many things including CKD

dietdoctor.com/intermittent...

If you have hypertension, diabetes or high hba1c, then I think fasting might really help you.

🤞

[ckd50ishfemale in reply to Subtle_badger]

Thanks for such an informative response, Subtle_badger. I am a type two diabetic and my A1C has been great the last couple years. It hurts to walk, as a form of exercise, because I have osteoarthritis in my feet. That’s why losing 30 pounds would take extra weight off my feet and hopefully lessen the stiffness/aching. I’m going to ask my nephrologist and I’m leaning toward seeing a dietitian. I’ll also look further into Dr. Fung’s reasearch. Sounds encouraging!Stay well and enjoy your summer!

[Subtle_badger 16Kg IF 72hrs in reply to ckd50ishfemale]

Unfortunately your nephrologist will almost certainly be an adherent to low fat/high carb, 3 meals a day + snacks. Ditto a dietician. Most doctors advise that even for diabetics, and tell you that it's a progressive and chronic disease - eg incurable and worsening. There are a few doctors who do prescribe an alternative approach, and they find their patients actually get better.

youtu.be/XyB-UNjt_V0(Not working as expected?)

[Subtle_badger 16Kg IF 72hrs]

This appeared on my YouTube feed this morning. It's not about fasting but low carb, but you might find it interesting.

Particularly note how it's important not to make a change like this on your own, but to get support from your team. Your meds can prove dangerous if your diet improves your underlying conditions.

[ckd50ishfemale in reply to Subtle_badger]

I agree meds need to be altered as needed. Another great point!

[Subtle_badger 16Kg IF 72hrs in reply to Subtle_badger]

I somehow didn't include the actual clip!

youtu.be/11x9PhlZuK0(Not working as expected?)

[S11m Volunteer 70lb IF20]

(Intermittent) Fasting, Keto and LCHF can, IMO, prevent, alleviate or cure most non-communicable diseases - but, I think, even Jason Fung thinks CKD is "progressive".As you are on the "wrong side of the pond" we know little about your healthcare system.

[Subtle_badger 16Kg IF 72hrs in reply to S11m]

Dr Fung thinks that kidney disease is not reversible - once the damage is done, it can't be undone - but I don't think he thinks it progressive; it can be stopped. Google says that stage 2 CKD, your kidneys are still functioning well, so if ckd50ishfemale can fix her diabetes, she probably will have functioning kidneys for the rest of her life.

The US medical system is baffling, but the standard health advice is the same as here.