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Bitter melon juice or fenugreek powder water good for type1 diabetes ,how much dosage we have take

Bhargav619
Bhargav619
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Hi I'm bhargav 35 yrs I have type 1 diabetes from past 15 yrs my fasting suger is above 200 , I heared about fenugreek powder water or bittermelon juice would help to lower blood suger levels and insulin dosage, can anyone tell how much dosage should take bitter melon juice and when I have to take before or after meals to lower my blood suger level and insulin dosage , right now I'm taking insulin 18 units and at night lantus 40 units along with insulin , is good to take bittermelon juice how much dose is best for type 1 diabetes.

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Activity2004
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Hi and welcome to the group, Bhargav619. Please feel free to continue posting and asking questions, commenting, reading other Member's postings/comments, take a look at the Topics/Events/Polls/Pinned Posts for ideas and suggestions and of course, get to meet the members of the group.

Has your doctor suggested that you use Bitter Melon along with taking insulin? I'm a type 1 Diabetic, as well and I use Basaglar and Novolog during the day and before bed. I also have a CGM to help have tighter control of my blood sugars along with a low carb high protein/gluten free diet. I count carbs. for each meal and snack so I can figure out the correct amount of insulin needed. If you use too much insulin, the blood sugars may drop too low. If you don't use enough, then the numbers may go too high.

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Fatbuddy

What is your ratio? % carbs, % fat and % protein?

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sandybrown

Anything in powder form is questionable for 100%?

Why not steam cook the "Momordica charantia (colloquially: bitter melon; bitter apple; bitter gourd; bitter squash; balsam-pear;" with soaked fenugreek and have it as a side dish?

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Activity2004
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in reply to sandybrown

Bitter Melon can lower blood sugars and a type 1 Diabetic on insulin could have extreme low blood sugar when insulin and Bitter Melon is used together.

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makarim

Well come to this group. Bitter melon probably botanical name is momordica charantia is good for diabetes . fenugeek seeds soaked overnight in water is also good. Take it in empty stomach in the morning. 100 ml of bitter melon juice along with ,2 teaspoon of fenugeek is enough.But being a type one only help is insuline.Take low carb mid protein and mid good fat diet.Try carb counting.Measure fasting insuline and take take advice of good diabetologist.The above organic foods will be not harmful.All the best for maintaining good suger control

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Bhargav619

From past 5 yrs I have been increased my insulin dosage 10 units , but still my fasting and post lunch sugar is not in normal, when ever I visit doctor he says to increase 1 more unit in insulin , I thought of taking bitter melon or fenu Greek seed powder to lower my insulin dosage I just want to know if I take bitter melon juice or fenugreek powder water after meals is there any chance in few days decrease my insulin dosage unit

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Bhargav619

When first my diabetes type 1 started as per doctor advice I have to 7 units and now present my insulin dosage after meals 18 units and 40 units lantus at night , is it ok I take bitter melon juice or fenu Greek powder water after meals

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Fatbuddy

Hello Bargav619 ---

I understand you are from India - and most likely from state of Gujarat - right ?

Are you currently living in India or UK ?

Are you currently working ?

Are you doing any exercises ?

Have you had a second opinion or another doctor - who specializes in treating Type 1 diabetes ?

What is your A1C -- say for last two years , tested every 3 months ?

Are you eating any snacks - after dinner ?

Now, I am not expert or do not have much knowledge of Type 1 treatment.

However, best way to control is by your self.

For next two weeks - write down every thing you eat - breakfast, lunch, dinner and snacks as well as anything you drink - except water. same time - check sugar everyday - 8 or 9 times - waking up, one and two hours after breakfast, 15 to 30 minutes before lunch, one and two hours after lunch, in between - if its too long for dinner, 15 to 30 minutes before dinner and one and two hours after dinner -- and bedtime for two weeks.

Count your carbs - from the list of food you ate -- estimate net carbs - for each meal and total for the day.

Next compare your sugar readings with what you ate. -- total carbs.

Also write down each type insulin you take and what time.

Ask your doctor --if it is advisable to take long acting insulin in morning instead of night.

For short acting - why fixed units ? usually -it depends on what is your sugar reading before meal - and take insulin based on what you going to eat. Please check my post response -

in Excess Insulin..

For Bitter Melon and Fenugreek - I have heard lot about benefits for Type 2 -- but not for

Type 1. And both are taken early morning on empty stomach --not after meal.

I also know that Apple Cider Vinegar - one to two teaspoons in warm water - taken few minutes before meal also helps - for Type 2.

One more suggestion --check with experienced ( older person ) Ayurvedic Doctor who understands the fundamentals of Aurveda and ask them same question about Bitter Melon and Fenugreek.

In India - you can always buy fresh Bitter Melon - and make fresh juice every day.

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auarvindekar

Fenugreek may be ok

but bitter melon is not desirable for Type I as it is a secretagogue i.e. it stimulates beta cells to produce more insulin which is not desirable in Type I

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StillConcerned

It is not desirable for type 2 either, as hyperinsulinaemia makes insulin-resistance (that underpins the condition) worse.

Best for health for both conditions is to have a set amount of carbohydrate at each meal. For most people that will be 40g available carbohydrate at each meal; 120g per day.

To normalise insulin-resistance, some may need less.

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Bhargav619

Soo what about wheat grass powder will it help to reduce my insulin dosage for type 1 diabetes?

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Activity2004
Activity2004Administrator
in reply to Bhargav619

Wheatgrass powder can act like insulin, so it will lower your blood sugars too much if used together with insulin for type 1 Diabetics.

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Bhargav619

Is there any powder or juice that can help lower my insulin dosage for type1

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Activity2004
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in reply to Bhargav619

Not sure. You can talk to your doctor and let them know that you you’re interested in getting their opinion on if you really need it.😀👍

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