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Difference between type 1 vs type 2 Diabetes.

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An informative article published today in difference between type1 and type 2 Diabetes.

But what the article does not discuss is the fact that Type 2's at some point of time may have to take insulin since the beta cells stop producing insulin.....

However, this can be avoided or prevented if the person remain active life style and reduce insulin resistance by a proper diet, physical exercise and keeps his blood sugar always under control...

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That's very true. Both can suffer insulin-resistance due to chronically high insulin levels.

Most people's body uses between 120 and 160g of carbohydrate per day, the rest being converted. It is this excess (and to a lesser extent protein) that necessitates too much insulin each time, producing a surplus of visceral fat, dyslipidaemia, and insulin-resistance.

In conclusion, get most energy from natural fat instead (3:2, monounsaturated to saturated).

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namahaAdministrator in reply to StillConcerned

Low carb is good for diabetes...Avoid sugar, refined carbs, maida, sweets , starchy vegetables like potatoes, white rice..... Some Diabetes especially thin type 2's need to have some measured quantity of complex carbs from whole grains like oats and pulses....

........Overall carb quantity may need to be fixed by individuals depending upon his tolerance level and blood sugar response to low carb diet...

After having said that yes, Some Obese Type-2 with high insulin level may get immensely benefitted with a strict low carb diet ... Even medication can be minimised with this approach...

But if a person is thin built body type 2 low BMI and if his circulating blood insulin levels are extremely low....Low carb in measured quantities would not help... high fat and protein also requires insulin for its metabolism ....

.........therefore what is of primary Importance for him is he should know if he belongs to this catagory of people by suitable blood tests , then he should be taking an insulin secretagogues after consultation with his doctor....

Then the secondary importance is Carbs.... Carbs essential for him...though refined carbs / simple sugars are avoided all together to prevent a spike ... but he needs to take some measured quantity of complex carbs from vegetables , pulses, oats.. ..as he also needs to ensure that he should put on some weight....to bring his BMI to a more healthy level.....

The mortality rate of thin built diabetes is higher than obese type diabetes...because they (Thin type 2) are not aware of their insulin deficient status and they practice Low carb diet ...they never put on weight.... They go thinner and thinner day by day....creating complications for their health...

I wasn't referring to a low-carb diet. I was referring to the actual amount the body uses. The trouble is that culturally we are so used to the high carbohydrate diet now that when someone tries to be the voice of reason, we immediately think this is some kind of deprivation.

We can measure the ideal intake for a person, taking into account individual differences. The ideal amount is not so low in carbohydrate that it causes us to try and make up the deficit from other foods (ketogenic), nor so high that the surplus is converted to fat (lipogenic). So, that established, no-one was appealing for individual needs when the USDA were able to sell their crops without opposition. Now the reasons for limiting carbohydrate are established, the status quo is arguing as to why some people may need more carbohydrate than others for example. The point is, it's all about politics and economics, with little genuinely to do with people's health. Carbohydrate is only required for intense activities, and intense activities have to by their very nature be of limited duration. The extreme of this would be an Olympic endurance athlete. It would very easy for them to exhaust glycogen and hit the wall. However, no-one gets fitter by running race-pace marathons. They can run fast pace for shorter durations, or longer durations at a slower pace to improve. The longer the duration an activity can be performed, the greater the proportion can be fuelled by fat.

What we have now is people trying to defend ideologies, but we can't change the laws of biochemistry.

As for thinner people being more at risk of mortality, part of the reason is the confusion they encounter. My brother-in-law passed away recently; organ failure due to uncontrolled diabetes. He was put on a high level of insulin, and was forever having highs and lows from attempting to keep his blood glucose from plummeting too quickly.

I find it difficult to fathom why they would let someone suffer like this, yet avoid them eating saturated fat that might raise cholesterol that might cause heart disease. I hope you realise the point that I'm making. The latter is a theory, as yet unproven after many decades, yet in attempting to defend that theory people are suffering and dying unnecessarily.

God bless you all.

I'm not saying we should eat limitless amounts of saturated fat. However, eating most of our energy from natural fat (3:2 monounsaturated to saturated) is how the human body is designed, and the further we deviate from that, the more susceptible we are to being ill.

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namahaAdministrator in reply to StillConcerned

What all we are saying is whether people are comfortable with Saturated fat or MUFA , Veg or a Non-veg or a vegan, and the quantity of Carbs they are comfortable with , let us leave it to them ..after all they have Glucometer at home to know what increases and what decreases their blood sugar, their overall well being...

Once upon a time I was on saturated fat ... and it was a disaster.....I gave up all together. . And I found all round improvement in my health ..

There may be somebody who may be more comfortable with Saturated fat ....his body accepts it..... It is ok...

Samething true with quantity of carbs also.....

So there can not be one fit for all.....obese and thin type 2 would respond differently... You may be knowing how your body react to type of fats and Carbs , but it may not be correct to think that all others irrespective of body structure and health conditions will respond in a similar fashion like yours ...

If there were one fit diet and solution for all type of diabetes, there would not have been any diabetes in the world ......

Blood glucose is only one indication. People can have insulin-resistance for decades without ever showing detriment in their blood glucose.

I've explained above why too much reliance on saturated fat wouldn't be good either. However, that acknowledged, all mammals need the outcome of their digestion to provide most of their energy as fat. If we achieve this through de novo lipogenesis (DNL) we suffer chronic ill-health.

We just don't have the tools onboard to eat like a chimpanzee or a gorilla for instance. Only 17% of our digestive system is hind gut, whereas theirs are 57% and 61% respectively. Consequently, we are not designed to eat the high proportion of fibrous vegetation they do, which their gut bacteria then converts to fat.

We need to eat the fat directly. Our ancestors would have done this by extracting the marrow from bones, eating the fattiest cuts of meat, eating brains and offal for example. We can choose eggs, olives, nuts, seeds, avocado, coconut, and full-fat dairy, but that basic necessity has not changed.

What has changed is the amount of seed oils and crops we eat because that is what they make the biggest profits from, not factoring in the greatest cost to our health.

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namahaAdministrator in reply to StillConcerned

Hope you are aware that insulin resistance can be measured very well.....from fasting blood glucose...and fasting insulin.....there is another method which doctors measure insulin resistance in a lab ....methods are plenty...

So if one is able to control his blood sugar, keep his insulin resistance under control by physical exercise and diet- whatever he is comfortable with ...

.......He need not worry whether he does it with meat ,egg, dairy or a complete vegan diet with a lot of fiber , nuts ,seeds , whole Legumes, vegetables and fruits...

In fact what I observed my body refuse to eat any food out of animals...not even eggs and dairy....

I found 10 fold improvement in my overall health parameters with 100% plant food....

There may be some one whose body is healthy with 100% animal fat, dairy, eggs....

It is ok ... Let us respect each other's food Habbits....

I'm not disputing that it is possible to be vegan and healthy, however just as they would need a source of B12, as stated previously the further they deviate from getting most of their energy from natural fat, the more susceptible to ill-health they will be.

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I have seen dozens of meat eaters who have B12 deficiency 😀 and there are another dozens of vegan who have never taken meat... yet their B12 level is always normal...this is because our gut bacteria Microbiome could also prepare B12...

Yes, if a person takes Metformin daily, then he is likely to have vitamin B12 deficiency whether or not he eats Veg or Non veg......it is proven science ... Fortunately B12 deficiency can be corrected by supplements..

Okay, so you are saying you believe that vegans don't need a source of B12. I'll end it there.

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namahaAdministrator in reply to StillConcerned

What I meant is both vegan and meat eaters have equal probability of vitamin B12 deficiency and fortunately there is a proven low cost supplement called Methylcobalamine water soluble Vitamin which can easily correct the deficiency. 🙂

I'm sorry you believe this. Deficiency in a meat eater would result from a faulty digestive system, such as from insulin-resistance from eating too many carbs.

A vegan diet necessitates supplementation, meaning it does not provide all that the body needs in itself.

I can see you are convinced by your ideology.

Let's discuss in a further 50 years and see how we are coping.

God bless you.

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namahaAdministrator in reply to StillConcerned

No dear !🙂 Mistaken...

As I said I have come across 100's of vegans lifetime... Not a Diabete and no deficiencies of B12....never supplemented.....

It is the gut bacteria which makes B12...

There are a class of people called Brahmakumari's in India not taken meat life time they live for 100 years ..one died recently at 105....

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namahaAdministrator in reply to StillConcerned

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As you say, you're entitled to your preferences.

My eldest daughter passed away last year at the age of just 28. Her life was blighted by B12 deficiency from her time as a vegan.

God bless you.

Please see the web page for general characteristics of Type 1 and Type 2 Diabetes.

Links:-

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Informative ! Thanks

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