BLOOD SUGAR OPTIMISERS AND THE TRUTH?

[Gopish]

Any body who has been using any kind of Blood sugar optimisers which has given good results and any long term health hazards . How effective are these and is it a bogus propaganda for people to take us sweet people for a ride?

[ramana42 Volunteer]

Never heard of these.I would not waste time/effort/money on them.

[Gopish in reply to ramana42]

Hi Thanks for the reply. You have mentioned that you have been using insulin for 30 years...is there any side effects on using Insulin and using tablets for diabetes s on a long run....is it safe...I am on insulin 20 in the morning and 18 at night....I also take one tablet of Dibizine M one in the morning and one at night...I still find my blood sugar vary from 180-283 a lot even on controlled diet....why is that...any suggestions are welcome from your side...

[ramana42 Volunteer in reply to Gopish]

I am on insulin since 3 yrs 14/12 novomix 50.There are no side effects as far as I am concerned.Important point is, I take special care for regular and moderate food intake to avoid hypo.

[suramo Star in reply to Gopish]

Gopish

"am on insulin 20 in the morning and 18 at night....I also take one tablet of Dibizine M one in the morning and one at night...I "

Change your doctor. No logic combining insulin and a secretagogue. This doc is gonna get you into big trouble.

Try lchf.

Gud luk.

[Gopish]

Hi Anup, thanks for the reply...how to check if I am insulin resistant....

[rksharmakumar]

You can know it by calculating your Fasting Insulin ,Fasting Glucose values ( from the same blood ) draw an at the same period of time ) on HOMA2 CALCULATOR-2. It will show your Insulin resistance values .& YOUR HEALTHCARE PROVIDER OR MEMBER ON THIS FORUM CAN GUIDE YOU FURTHER.

[rksharmakumar]

Conversely it can be checked on Postprandial values also.

[rksharmakumar]

This can be true,May be bogus or false values.

[Jaybeebala]

HI. I am a type 2 diabetic for 23. Years. Been on insulin for 9 years now. But my glycated haemoglobin reading is alway's in the 8 ish range. I have heard that the cgm and pump are very effective.Has anyone here tried these devices? I plan to do so but any feedback on this first would be welcome.Thanks.

[suramo Star in reply to Jaybeebala]

Jaybeebala

This forum is to guide and convince you for diet management for diabetes.

Your doctor is the best person to advise you on insulin.

Try lchf and probably you won't need insulin.

[Jaybeebala]

I am definitely following my docs advice on insulin.What I wanted to know was if anyone here was using the continuous glucose monitoring device along with the pump for adminstering in the required boluses of insulin and if so what was their experience of the same.Can you spell out a low carb high fat (lchf) diet in the Indian context ? Thanks.

[rvmasalvad Volunteer Star]

The benefits of keeping blood sugar levels at optimum levels to ward off diabetic complications are well known. One has to take special care to ensure that blood sugar levels are within limits.

In case of non diabetics, body immune system takes care of this .However in case of diabetics due to impaired metabolic factors this does not happen and blood sugar goes haywireand needs to be regulated artificially. In the case of diabetic1 patients, this disorder is from child hood due to genetic factors and they need to regulate it from child hood. In case of diabetic II patients this impairments starts in middle age due to progressive depletion in the body’s ability to regulate itself without external efforts.

Therefore selection of certain foods, selection of exercise and selection of drugs becomes the essential need to regulate blood sugar externally .

In initial stages in case of diabetes II, any one or combination of all three may optimise the blood sugar. Since this is an artificial way resorted to by the patient, professional advice from endocrinologist is a preferred measure against self decision which is prone to errors/mistakes

There is nothing bogus. All steps ar genuine

[Kalyadi in reply to rvmasalvad]

My doctor suggested to go for ABG test for uncontrolled sugar level. I am insulin dependant. Whether it is necessary.

[rvmasalvad Volunteer Star in reply to Kalyadi]

what is ABG test?Can you clarify?

[rvmasalvad Volunteer Star]

Further to my reply, I feel the test suggested is a special test not advised ordinarily to diabetics. If what you mean arterial blood test it is as under:

An arterial blood gas (ABG) test measures the acidity (pH) and the levels of oxygen and carbon dioxide in the blood from an artery. This test is used to check how well your lungs are able to move oxygen into the blood and remove carbon dioxide from the blood.

As blood passes through your lungs, oxygen moves into the blood while carbon dioxide moves out of the blood into the lungs. An ABG test uses blood drawn from an artery, where the oxygen and carbon dioxide levels can be measured before they enter body tissues. An ABG measures:

•Partial pressure of oxygen (PaO2). This measures the pressure of oxygen dissolved in the blood and how well oxygen is able to move from the airspace of the lungs into the blood.

•Partial pressure of carbon dioxide (PaCO2). This measures the pressure of carbon dioxide dissolved in the blood and how well carbon dioxide is able to move out of the body.

•pH. The pH measures hydrogen ions (H+) in blood. The pH of blood is usually between 7.35 and 7.45. A pH of less than 7.0 is called acid and a pH greater than 7.0 is called basic (alkaline). So blood is slightly basic.

•Bicarbonate (HCO3). Bicarbonate is a chemical (buffer) that keeps the pH of blood from becoming too acidic or too basic.

•Oxygen content (O2CT) and oxygen saturation (O2Sat) values. O2 content measures the amount of oxygen in the blood. Oxygen saturation measures how much of the hemoglobin in the red blood cells is carrying oxygen (O2).

Blood for an ABG test is taken from an artery. Most other blood tests are done on a sample of blood taken from a vein, after the blood has already passed through the body's tissues where the oxygen is used up and carbon dioxide is produced.

An arterial blood gas (ABG) test is done to:

•Check for severe breathing problems and lung diseases, such as asthma, cystic fibrosis, or chronic obstructive pulmonary disease (COPD).

•See how well treatment for lung diseases is working.

•Find out if you need extra oxygen or help with breathing (mechanical ventilation).

•Find out if you are receiving the right amount of oxygen when you are using oxygen in the hospital.

•Measure the acid-base level in the blood of people who have heart failure, kidney failure, uncontrolled diabetes, sleep disorders, severe infections, or after a drug overdose.

[rnpath]

ABG is a painful unnecessary lab test, not relevant for DM