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Can someone suggest LCHF vegetarian diet?

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Add in nuts, olives, seeds. 

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ajay428 in reply toMikePollard

Thanks Sir

Breakfast: If you take eggs then 2 boiled ot fried eggs 

Or 2 small pieces of Idli / one small dosa made of mung sprouts & brown rice with coconut chutney and ghee. 

Or Small portion of Upma with ghee ample qty. 

Or one small chappati with ghee and one non starchy veg in good qty or as much as you can have. 

Boiled Rajma small qty. Moong sprouts one small portion. 

Cucumber salad. 

2 table spoons of virgin coconut oil. One teaspoon of virgin oilve oil. 

Having some veg in form of salad or boiled veg is a must in the morning as it facilitates smooth motion next morning. 

Any form of morning BF with good qty of ghee or butter. 

Overnight soaked Almonds & or  Walnuts. 

Lunch: Take a small qty of brown rice with ghee & daal & one subji

Take some peanuts and or almonds . Also some salad

Eve snacks if hungry: One small apple in empty stomach or nuts 

Dinner : One small chappati with ghee and veg in ample qty. 

After one hr one small glass of milk with turmeric & ghee to keep your bones strong. 

Early morning you can have a green juice of Karela + Amla. 

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Shashi

with due respect to your successful  experience with the lchf diet.

Isn't the menu given by you here has more carbs in form of idli, dosa, upma, roti and brown rice? Would the present menu not cross 100gms/day limit of the carbs?

Also i have studied the link given by you. They claim that the guy maintained blood sugar levels at 30mg/ 100 ml for a long time during the study period. Difficult to digest. Whenever sugar level goes below 60mg/ 100ml the person starts having symptoms of hypoglycemia. He/she starts getting dizziness, severe perspiration and confusion and clouding of mind. All because the body and  esp brain doesn't get required glucose for energy. The person goes into hypothermia and coma. Further all the body mechanism like hormones, glycogenolysis, gluconeogenesis, reduced bmr etc try to maintain blood sugar level above 60. Their claim is unacceptable. Yes we read a lot about "hath yogies" and their extreme body control but we lay people can't imitate them. We had an jain engineer here in ahmedabad who lived on water and sun light only for 40 yrs. You may or may not believe but here we are talking about common people like you and me.

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These are choices 

Not to be taken all together 

Please see "Or" 

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suramoStar in reply to

Yes. I know. I just thought giving rice though brown would raise the total carbs limit per day. That to with items made with rice in bf.

Daal in the lunch also contain carbs as do veg albeit in smaller quantity.

Again chappati which contains 25-35 g carbs per piece. 

Well i'm not contradicting you.

But you didn't say anything about that 382 days hunger study where they claimed 30mg sugar levels. Is the claim exaggerated ?

in reply tosuramo

My carbs intake is not 100gm per day but around 150 Gm. 

I am in good control with hba1c of 5.2. 

Fasting is around 95 and PP at one hr is around 130 and around 100 by 2 hrs 

So maybe it not total LCHF but I works for me well 

We all have to tweak the diet to suit ourselves. 

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Thanks a lot sir.

won't too much of ghee or butter disturb my lipid levels?

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suramoStar in reply toajay428

There are many people on this forum who have been benefited by lchf diet. They have improved their lipid profile with good fat lchf diet.

But you have to be cautious with much of ghee and butter. Not only kind of ghee and butter you use ( home made or other ) but also "tasir" of your body matters. If you have family history of early deaths because of a genetic disease called familial dyslipidemia you must be careful in using fats. Also you should gradually increase the fat content of you diet over days if not months. Get lab reports done and choose oil and ghee which have been scientifically proven good. Like vco and cow ghee etc

My Lipid levels: 

LDL is 113 after 4 mts of high fats

Is it convincing? 

Also as ages increases we need higher lipid level

But LDL should be lower as its a marker

Also HSCRP and Homocystein is below the levels. 

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yparth

Take about half kg of lady's fingers, cut into small pieces, and roast it about 50 to 75 gas of virgin coconut oil. Put a quarter spoon of chilly powder mixed with quarter spoon of powered salt (for easy mixing) with one or two pods of garlick. Now LCHF diet is ready.

Quantities of chilly powder etc are given for reference only. We can alater the qty of veg. Chilly poder, salt poder, vco etc are for guidance.

We may change the veg. daily and everyday we have a new item.

I tried with inter gourd, lady's fingers, brinjal and broad beans.

Next time we will have some other items now with Coconut gratings, if you are ineterested.

Parthasarathy

pyelchur@yahoo.com

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suramoStar in reply toyparth

What were the effects on diabetes my dear?

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suramoStar

Yes. You are right.

Just tell me why curd should be one day old and sour.

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suramoStar

Excess of anything is not advisable. Digesting ghee depends on "hajma " capacity of individual GIT capacity including liver and gall bladder functions. In addition to that a person should have metabolic capacity to deal with the fat load. 

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Hajma is digestion in hindi i.e digestion power.

GIT means gastro intestinal tract

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suramoStar

Hajma= digestive power. It's a hindi word.

GIT = Gastro Intestinal tract

i thought you were a medical person.

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ajay428 in reply tosuramo

I am a medical person.Spent 25 yrs in the industry.Brother is a doc.

But the person who used the above terms may or may not be one.

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suramoStar in reply toajay428

I was referring to ragivrao

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Lchf diet suggests that one should take 50-100 g of carbs. It should be more on ketogenic side.

Ghee or fats not more than 100-130 g.

Total calorie intake should be on deficit side. If you require say 2000 calories a day you should take 1700-1800 c per day divided as per lchf concept 20:20:60 c:p:f.

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You are always welcome 

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Yes, GrowFit ( getgrowfit.com) has several low carb programs and seen their effect on weight and blood sugar. We follow the classic low-carb protocol. You can download the app and get a typical DASH diet or subscribe to a premium diet plan and support.

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