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EVEN AFTER CARFULLY FOLLOWING LCHF VEGETARIAN DIET, MY FASTING SUGAR NOT GOING BELOW 100. CAN SOMEBODY SUGGEST WHAT IS WRONG WITH MY DIET?

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Let me introduce myself. I am diabetic since 4 years. My hab1c is 6.5 last month. Fasting sugar between 100 to 120 and Post sugar around 120 always. I am taking metformin 500 SR in the morning and metformin 1000 SR in the evening.

MY VEGETARIAN LCHF DIET(no eggs no meat)breakfast /lunch and Dinner.

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chana dal/green moong one chila(dosa)

Salad with sprouted mahti etc.

Any legumes subji(Dinner replaced by NUTRILA SOYA subji because of extreme hunger)

Big bowl of boiled vegetables or green subji with grated coconut and flex seed powder.

(All cooked in coconut oil)

IN BETWEEN I TAKE

Plenty of green tea

Paneer with fresh coconut

Apple cedar vinegar

4 walnuts and 5 badam

Karela juice.

I even increased the metformin dose 500mg to 1000mg in the night still no effect. Please somebody high light me where I gone wrong in my diet?

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To me,it seems that you are quite well.No need to be unduly concerned.

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atma

According to the latest research shows that if fasting not less than 85 it can lead to diabetic complications.

Please see the web site bloodsugar101.com

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everexotic

Food is not the only thing which increases BS. Your thoughts and peace if mind also has profound effect on your BS. Try exercise every day. Identify food by process of elimination, which could increase your blood sugar. Have sex or mastrubate, that will brinv peace and relaxation. There is no single remrdy which will work. Medicine dose should only be increased if everytjing else fails.

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atma

By god's grace i have peace of mind and relaxation. I do 2 hours of walking and weight training. still my fasting not under control.

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ram_latha

Hi atma, Your meal plan seems ok.A few suggestions. Try to include olive oil dressing for salad and whole milk yogurt ( one day old as Medfree suggests ) and unstrained vegetable soup with 1tsp of ghee or butter in your diet which will reduce hunger pangs .Count your carb, protein and fat to adjust the meal plan such that 60% (min) of food calories come from fat and 20% ( max) from carbs .

High fasting number is due to dawn phenomenon. .I too have the same problem of dawn phenomenon but my post meal numbers are good , Some times below 100 .Try taking some bed time snack which is supposed to reduce the dawn effect..Post your trial and effect for the benefit of every one in this Forum..All the best !

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atma

Thanks, I will add one day old yogurt and olive oil in my diet. I am afraid to take ghee because one time it increased my BP, but I am taking lot of freshly made panner.

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vijendrashirahatti

Why you are getting unnecessarily worried you are doing fine Please do not increase the medicines withour physician knowledge.It will create complications.

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kvlsn

You have given a big list of your food, nothing about physical exercise,Do some exercise that will suffice.your BS levels not alarming.

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atma in reply tokvlsn

I do two hour walking and 15 minutes of weight training plus some breathing exercise like bramari.

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GeorgeMinz

Include 'quaker oats 'in your diet for breakfast daily ( only water, no milk pl) 6 table spoon , with a dash of pure honey for taste ! My sugar , since last 10 yrs ...has reduced drastically when I recently switched over to quaker oats diet , (when suggested by my diabetic friend , which has also worked well for him !! ),.... My fasting reduced from 170 to 83 & PP from 240-60 to 140. Of course have ur regular medicines too... stress is the main killer, hence excercise / have brisk walk daily + do brahmari ( for stress)...your mind shud be in a state of 'thoughtlessess ' while excercising early morng & not think of your daily chores /work...( very imp) & also do kapalbhatti daily !

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norreal in reply toGeorgeMinz

GeorgMinz: Did you take medicines along with Quaker Oats? (Why do you give sole credit to oats?)

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GeorgeMinz

Sorry, 'thoughtlessness' state of mind ...half-close your eyes while excercising / walking in familiar areas...can even be done within your living room!

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ranjandxn

Hi, only diet is not sufficient... you should take ganoderma , which will kill the side effect of tablet and will increase your immune system....there is very good result many people got... ganoderma is king of herb... and NO SIDE EFFECT..you must try and experience the result ....

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norreal in reply toranjandxn

Any type of Ganoderma? [ Ganoderma is a genus of polypore mushrooms which grow on wood, and include about 80 species, many from tropical regions.[1] Because of their extensive use in traditional Asian medicines, and their potential in bioremediation, they are a very important genus economically. Ganoderma can be differentiated from other polypores because they have a double walled basidiospore. They are popularly referred to as shelf mushrooms or bracket fungi.]

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atma

I will buy a weighting mechine may be this week to find out. But I take medium bowl of above mentioned items.

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jaisinghk1

TAKE 15 ML ALOE VERA JUICE AT BED TIME IN NIGHT. SEE THE RESULT

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DRH-sangliStar

I have a general question.

At what time,Medicines prescribed for diabetic person should be taken?..i mean just before one start taking food,15 minutes before one start taking food or just after one start taking food....or else?..what is the relevance or reason of taking medicine at that particular time ?... e.g.I read somewhere that if medicines are taken 15 minutes prior to you start taking food, then they are better absorbed on empty stomach..and give better results..Any .other opinions please....

in reply toDRH-sangli

In addition to @medfree's reply, would like to add;

Medicines which are taken before BF / meals ( like Insulin, sulfonyl ureas ) - It is usually advised to take them after the first bite.

One of the reason being, these are very fast acting & if just after taking the medicine, one gets a phone call or discovers that the breakfast is not ready or decides to attend natures call, etc, one might end up with severe / fatal hypoglycemia ( low sugar ).

This is particularly true for many people as they grow old & become more absent-minded. Perhaps attributing absent-mindedness to old people is wrong, as day by day, I find the younger generation to be more absentminded. :-D

Thanks

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atma

I used to eat 6 roti in the night still after 2 hours too much hunger and no sleep. then my friend suggested to stop eating roti then my hunger subsided. From that point onward I got belief in the low carb diet. As a pure vegetarian it is very difficult still I am trying hard to follow lchf diet.

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vijendrashirahatti

You are doing fine Please do not owrry much Keep it up

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atma in reply tovijendrashirahatti

thanks, I am not worried but want to keep my FF below 90 so that i can avoid diabetes complications.

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vijendrashirahatti in reply toatma

The blood sugar varies.Even I am having diabetes since 6 yrs I am 73 years.Last month the reading was 96/120.This month it is 101/135 so nothing to worry.I am taking melformin 500 mg twice a day. In addition to this I am taking Karela+jamun juice+ aLOE VERA+aMLA JUICE with soaked methi seeds early morning inmmediately.Early morning I go for walk for half an hour. I mentally at peace.so slight variation in blood sugar one should not worry

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atma in reply tovijendrashirahatti

Thank you, vijendraji

In the initial 2 years I did not take allopathic medicine but I tried auyerveda, naturopathy and homeopathy etc. In this time every month I have to change my reading glass. Now at a stage came I cannot walk bare foot. I wear special crocs company chapels.

For past year’s negligence I am now tiring to take extra care. I totally avoided all high carb items including atta, rice and below the earth vegetables +medications.

I have seen and read the complications. I am not afraid of death at all. But I am afraid of the complications diabetes can create. So I am taking an extra precaution. Rest I leave to God almighty.

My humble request for you to somehow bring FBS under 90. Please see this link below for the research details;

What is a Normal Blood Sugar? Section in

bloodsugar101.com/

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vijendrashirahatti in reply toatma

Dear Atmaji

when I said I am mentally at peace I am not expecting death.Like you when I noticed I am having diabetes at 2006 I tried homeopathic medicine for one year as per the docotors suggestion I used to take RBS it always used to be at 300 so everybody in my house started abusing me so I switched to aloeapathic medicine.As far your eye trouble consult your physician about your eye problem show it to a eye specialist they will some drops or surgery.About foot problem your doctor is the best judge.

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vijendrashirahatti

I am not giving any assurances I am only stating my case

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