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L Reuteri Yoghurt - good or bad?

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I recently started taking this after seeing various online videos with Dr William Davis -apparently we should have this bacteria, but most of us have lost it due to antibiotics etc. So I took it (you have to make it but it's not complicated), after a few days felt happier, more energetic, better concentration, skin clearer - then someone said people who are immunocompromised might not do so well and are at danger of the bacteria going from their gut to their blood. Currently I'm just on watch and wait, no meds. There are suggestions either way as to if it's good or not, but I know it makes me feel much better (haven't felt so well for a long time). So does anyone here have any knowledge/experience about this either way? Thank you!

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Hello Research, I do not know enough about this yogurt to have an opinion. I can tell you that Dr William Davis is yet another one of those doctors who does you tube videos that direct you to his website where he then tries to sell you books that are controversial for lacking scientific basis. You can buy his yogurt there too. I would consider running this by your doctor before trying it.

Here is an excerpt from Wikipedia on Davis that cites to articles questioning methods used by Davis:

One analysis found that Davis used some data that was associated, but did not prove causality (false analogy), compared food data that is not naturally comparable (that is, incommensurable), made false assertions, ignored studies that disproved some of his claims, made assertions that were not backed up by any case studies, made self-contradictory statements and, while he made some statements that were true, they were not catastrophic as he claimed.[3][4]

A 2013 review in the Journal of Cereal Science, concluded "we consider that statements made in the book of Davis, as well as in related interviews, cannot be substantiated based on published scientific studies".[3] A review by the American Association of Cereal Chemists which cited a recent review of studies on refined grains, noted that "the great majority [of studies] found no associations between the intake of refined-grain foods and cardiovascular disease, diabetes, weight gain, or overall mortality."[4]

Harriet Hall has described Davis's wheat belly diet as "another low-carb diet that ignores the bulk of the scientific evidence, makes false associations, and exaggerates grains (pun intended) of truth into delusional mountains."[10]

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willi...

Maybe his critics are wrong and Davis is some diet guru, I’m not smart enough to know. I am just naturally wary of doctors who write books that are not science supported and use YouTube videos and such to direct you to a website that sells you their books and other products.

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Thanks Cajun That's interesting. I know he's not too keen on wheat and if his methods aren't so scientific, I doubt that would endear him to a scientific journal on wheat. I've seen arguments before that cereals aren't the healthiest of foods and I think that its no secret that giving up bread will help you lose weight. I wasn't overly impressed by his wheat theories but the concept of lack of bacteria in us makes more sense to me, and more interesting was the effect of it on me - I feel better and even look better according to several people.

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If your immunity was super compromised such that you were neutropenic, and/or had very low immune globulins, and/or had a history of frequent infections, certain probiotics may not be recommended. This doesn't sound like you, since you are still W&W.

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If it makes you feel good, go for it. Many will be distrustful to alternative methods of helping ourselves and that's fine, they don't need to use them. Your body, your health, your responsibility. Unless you try, you'll never know what could help you. I've been taking home made sour cream for 7 years or so. I swear by it. The first batch was made from fresh cow milk straight from the udder. I set it on the counter and let it sit in the shade for 2 days at room temperature till it soured. They say it contains a thousand different bacteria (I didn't count them😁). My gut and them have been happily coexisting ever since and my digestion is as perfect as it can get. It's my daily probiotic.

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yes I also use Dr. Davis yogurt, but you have to also make sure that you have sufficient K2 I am also on a and but while I’m waiting, I am 100% committed into making sure that I am getting my recommended daily allowance of potassium 4700 mg magnesium 420 mg mineral sea salt all of the especially one what was very irritating to me was that I was severely deficient in B12 and the doctor prescribed me a synthetic form of B12 that was not working so I had a test and found out that I was positive for the MTHFR which will not allow you to convert synthetic form of B12 into the usable I changed my B12 to a methylated my went through the roof with absorption my question to all cancer doctors when somebody is severely deficient on B12 why would they not recommend to get this MTHFR gene test they would prefer to let someone suffer then to give them the information they need to get healthy. My cancer doctor has never once told me or about my nutrition so I have taken control and my day is very calculated from the time I wake confirming that I getDA of all my supplements, especially magnesium potassium B12, and a host of other supplements that are all natural and will relieve pain. I feel like I have been sailing my own ship from the get-go with absolutely no help from the cancer doctor.

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