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CDC To Stop Counting Breakthru Unless Hospitalized

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I read that the CDC will no longer count breakthrough Covid cases unless the patient is hospitalized. I cannot recall the source. Has anyone else seen this?

It will certainly make vaccines "look" more effective, which MAY help with vaccine hesitancy. However, it will not help give a realistic picture of Covid cases, especially for vulnerable individuals trying to calculate their risk.

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whmk

The CDC has not counted breakthrough cases for over two months. They only track hospitalizations and deaths. I had posted that breakthrough deaths are not rare but no one seemed to have read it or care. The reason why it is important to us is that many are speculating that many of the breakthrough deaths are among the immunocompromised - that is us.

I think it is criminal that the CDC has stopped tracking breakthrough cases at exactly the time when Delta has surged and vaccines have begun to wane.

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Ibru in reply to whmk

I agree. CDC should still be tracking breakthrough cases of all types, not just those that are hospitalized!

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Belfastbees in reply to whmk

I share that concern, in the UK. I do accept many less people are dying and whilst we hear about double vaccinated folks going to hospital we never hear as the deaths are announced how many of these were double vaccinated. I do wonder of those that are and die why this is. There should be simple data easily collected. Transplant patients, ourselves and so on. I must assume that those previously at risk through obesity and diabetes and other conditions will have good protection from the vaccine they got. I hope for the best, but I have a doubt still.

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Astro617 in reply to whmk

I agree 100%. What's even more egregious is that the CDC stopped tracking breakthrough cases at the same time they made their disastrous statement that the vaccinated no longer needed to wear masks. In my town that meant that everybody stopped wearing a mask. Plus the CDC keeps saying that breakthrough cases are rare. A study from Israel just came out that says the Pfizer vaccine is only 42% effective against the delta variant. I plan to write to the CDC and my governor twice a week about putting out stronger mask recommendations and reinstating occupancy limits. This is insane. Another fly in the ointment is that some southern US states are no longer funding COVID tests. So people without insurance aren't getting tested or they are buying kits to use at home. Those cases don't get reported at all.

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Youngen

In Israel the percentage of breakthrough cases is quite high (roughly 40%). Severe illness is less common but still quite significant. Some speculate that this is largely due to the waning vaccine (the bulk got vaccinated 6 months ago) but the ages of the vaccinated with severe illness are high and are indicative of co-morbidities and/or immunocompromised

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LeoPa

Why calculate anything? It's all very individual. Just assume the risk is sky High and behave accordingly.

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CTucker in reply to LeoPa

Why live with the assumption that it's going to kill you, when odds are it won't unless you are severely compromised?

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Belfastbees in reply to CTucker

I kinda hold this view myself. In all honesty I've accepted that most likely it's an infection that will get me, not the CLL directly. At 56 I don't want that to be anytime soon, and covid obviously is the big show in town, but nothing is promised, I've come to terms with the frailty of life and appreciate the insight this have given me, I'm reasonably new on my journey, my haematologist re-iterates I have an abnormal immune system but I feel well, my bloods are good and I did respond to the vaccine. I'm not about to let my guard down totally. My biggest risk comes from the workplace. I've been treated OK, but just OK. I'm aware there is one 28 yo guy who is, to be kind, vaccine hesitant.

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LeoPa in reply to CTucker

Because I prefer to err on the safe side.

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CTucker in reply to LeoPa

I can understand caution.

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Jonquiljo in reply to CTucker

Because a good number of us are over 65 or 70 which means that we have a much lower chance of surviving COVID "without CLL." It's the sum of all conditions - and CLL puts most of us over the danger line.

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