You have to be careful, once you cause disruption to a tick it can empty the contents of its gut into your wound, spreads infection, these things are dangerous, if I find one on my dog I have a special tick removal tool and have to wear gloves, once its off I drop it into bleach to kill it. I would respectfully suggest members research this so that they know the right way to remove a tick and the possible consequence of tick 'bites'
I simply shared what I do. And I never had a problem with this method. The reason why I do this is because it releases the ticks head as well not leaving anything behind. I do appreciate your comment and will look into this further🙂.
Oh, man, if titer rising, take it for longer than 3 weeks! (I had one of the first central Virginia cases of lyme back in 1989, and got 3 weeks --2 wks recommended conservatively but no one knew really cause so new and my great doc okayed 3wks as other docs were recommending-- of IV rocephin (sp)? Did a job, but not permanently -- have had bouts since, and then do the doxycyline. Just my personal opinion.
I would be dousing it in Hydrogen Peroxide and then treating it like a splinter- using a sterilized needle and fine tweezers to tease out everything that is black color. Then more peroxide and a triple antibiortic salve with a bandaid (UK= adhesive bandage ??) -
Trying to kill any bacteria like Lyme Disease before it gets established in your blood stream.
Have you been successful with this method? I've tried numerous methods that have failed. The tick twister works every time. I always check the legs come out intact. I get to practice on my cat. You are right of course... keep the wound site clean and disinfected.
I try to get the tick out whole- my father and grandfather would use the flame from a lighter to disturb the tick to back out, but my kids would not sit still for that, so I had to use a tweezers and lots of patience.
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Only when the tick came apart woud I get at it like a splinter.
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Until I was 45, I had outstanding close vision, and a steady hand, so like the barbers of olden days, I got the job, because I had the tools and the hand eye coordination.
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But now I use a set of head mounted magnifiers like a jewler's and the hand is not as steady.
My kids are in their 40's, live 3 hours and 16 hours away, and I don't know what they do.
Until I was introduced to the tick twister, by a vet incidentally, like you I tried various methods with some difficulty. The tick twister takes 5 sec, couple of turns, and for me has never failed.
No, plaster is what you put on a brick wall to smooth it out before painting. I wouldn’t trust your translator. 😄 But it’s appreciated that you tried. x
Rubbing Alcohol can also sterilize, it is just much more painful in an open wound. We always keep a bottle of H2O2 handy for any injuries (and cleaning red wine and tomato sauce off clothing).
Hello Robert. First, don’t freak out. The tick can only transmit Lyme in it’s tiny early nymph phase, and even then must be attached for at least 48 or more hours. I’ve had Lyme twice. First time my rash did not form a telltale target pattern, and I did not register on blood tests. Got very ill for months before diagnosis. Doxycycline for 21 days brought relief. The ticks in nymph stage are super tiny, very hard to see, and you won’t feel them. The second time I did develop a target rash, and immediate treatment with rounds of doxycycline once again cured it. Not every tick bite is dangerous. See your doctor and you’ll be fine.
Having been a lyme victim -- no bullseye, not on that long -- I'm dubious of these 36 hr (muchless 48 hr) reassurances. Bottomline, if you start feeling weird, feverish in weeks after -- take it seriously, regardless of how long you know it's been on. But this has nothing to do really with your current situation which, I agree with Jenny, doesn't matter in the overall and I wouldn't be that concerned about it, from the standpoint of it mouth parts are still there.
This actually does need urgent attention and at the very least a dose of antibiotics especially with a compromised immune system. When ticks are removed it has to be in it's entirety otherwise they can cause disease and do, you need to make sure that you are protected now. GP's very often dont know what to do but if you ring a vet they will help you. Good luck x
Thats good, I didn't want to say too much but these damned things are very dangerous, as a dog owner I am aware of the disease they spread, the longer they are on the 'victim' the more chance and if you don't remove it correctly then the risk is greater. Good luck at the hospital and that the medic knows about the disease spread by ticks as this is most important, it is called Lyme Disease 'a bacterial infection that can be spread to humans by infected ticks, easier to treat if diagnosed early'
Well at least you have got some expert advice, did they prescribe a course of antibiotics and did you tell them your immune system was compromised? Sorry in mother mode lol
Then keep a watch on anything out of the ordinary developing, fever, aches and pains etc., I personally think it would have been better to given you antibiotics as a precaution, might be worth trying your GP again and actually asking for a course to be on the safe side.
Why urgent attention? We're going a bit overboard, I think, on the antibiotics. If you get reaction, then go get treated. If nothing, just a tick bite of which I've had zillions as a child and many as adult.
I've heard that ticks are particularly numerous this year in many countries. Gotta be tick aware...
Worst problem is when they are small and on body areas where we don't notice them. I found one on me last week while on holiday in Scotland, but luckily it hadn't got dug in and came off easily.
Best to avoid getting them on our skin in the first place. Hubby and I always tuck the bottom of our trousers into long walking socks to stop them creeping up onto us that way. We never wear shorts or short sleeved tops in possible tick country (where there are deer or sheep roaming.).
Vulnerable areas are our heads and necks, as ticks can get onto us from vegetation where they wait for passing animals they can drop onto.. Sunhats help. I wear a pale one so any ticks are easily visible.
The day the tick got onto me last week, we had been pushing our way through high bracken and shrubbery. According to the map we were on a marked path (on hillside by Loch Lomond), but it had become very overgrown, maybe through lack of use due to Covid restrictions! If a path is wide and clear of tall vegetation, it's safer (though not always so exciting).
I realise that tick avoidance strategies are too late for you this time, Robert.
Last time I got one that was deeply dug in, like you I scratched off its body by mistake, then spent ages with a sterilised needle, digging the tick jaws out of my arm. A painful, bloody business... I hope you soon find a better way to remove your tick remnants..
Paula.
P.S. Just seen your latest post, Robert, about you going to Urgent treatment center at hospital this morning. Good for you! Best of luck!
Get the doctors to prescribe a weeks course of Flucloxacillin which is a drug made for any skin infections. This should totally solve any skin infections from the tick bite.
My reply was NOT anything to do with Lymes Disease, but just to alert others that this drug is useful for any infection caused by the remnants of the tick being under the skin. I have personal experience with exactly that condition.
Back in the 80's I burnt a wart out (to ashes) with matches Ended up with burn wounds which healed nicely. No more wart! That was definitely nutty and hammery. Young and dumb.
I had a tick bite which I must have brushed off without noticing on my belly. It just itched for a while, and then it seemed to get a red ring round it. I still didn’t take much notice as I get bitten by something g every time I put my head out of doors!I had a check for something else, and asked a nurse in the surgery who brought in the doctor, who prescribed some antibiotics.
I wasn’t ill, and it cleared up quick quickly, leaving a coloured ring.
(Moral: Do see someone who knows about these things ASAP!)
Sorry for all you’ve been through with this. If you still have the tick, you may want to send it in for testing to see if it was positive for the bacteria that causes Lyme disease, as well as many other bacteria it could have been carrying. Best of luck.
1. There are some circumstances in which a tick can transmit the bacteria that causes Lyme much more quickly than the 24 or 48 hr mark that is often cited. One of them being if the tick fell off a infected animal it was already feeding on and then bit you.
2. Only a minority of people who contract Lyme disease get the bullseye rash. Many do not get the rash but still get Lyme. Unfortunately, many doctors still think you will get the rash if you have contracted Lyme, so they ask you to wait to see if you get a rash.
I would ask a doctor for doxycycline. The length of those does varies a lot by doctor, and many doctors don’t have in-depth information on Lyme disease. If you have reason to believe it was a tick carrying the bacteria that causes Lyme, you want 21-30 days of doxycycline, if you can stand it, and if it doesn’t interfere with CLL or treatment of CLL. The side effects of doxycycline are sometimes harsh, but it is worth it to treat Lyme. It is the most effective antibiotic for Lyme. The sooner you take the antibiotic, the more effective it is.
I have no idea how this antibiotic treatment might interfere/interact with CLL or CLL treatment, so this is more general Lyme disease info. We live in an area of the US where 90%+ of the ticks carry Lyme disease bacteria. We met with many Lyme specialists last year to untangle all this info. We learned most GPs have dated and/or incomplete info and you have to research and advocate for yourself quite a bit. Please let me know if any additional info on my experience might be helpful and best of luck!
I have started AB (doxycycline) as a precaution, but only have a weeks emergency supply, so need that GP appointment. I was on these AB throughout the pandemic due to my IVIG being cancelled.
A longer dose would be better but I am pleased that you have started a course, a few days supply sadly is all the docs will prescribe, but go back for more, take some written information with you if you can proving that the course should be longer, maybe look it up on a Lyme disease platform which states how long a course should be. I always believe better to be safe than sorry. I have a Chihuahua dog and won't let her go into bushes and longer grass areas because of these damned things so always on guard with my tick tool lol
I rather think this is a plain GP issue, not an onc issue. Perhaps you have an all-purpose onc, but mine is pretty specialized, so wouldn't bother onc about such a thing. As a future tip, a match on the body can sometimes help also. If the parts are in there, they will rot away, I believe, as I have had that a number of my times in my life with no complications (from that aspect -- there's always lyme, etc to be watchful about, but you'd do that whether you got it all or not).
I think GP right nothing to do/worry about. It will dissolve eventually. Whether you got all or part off -- still just be watchful for lyme issues but no need to run for antibiotics because odds are tick didn'thave lyme, and with all this doxycyline usage, we're endangering its effectiveness. My personal opinion but with lots of tick and lyme experience.
I see advice to avoid tall and dense vegetation but have been picking up 2 species of ticks in my short mown lawn since March. Tiny black legged deer ticks and larger American dog tick. I have found them crawling up my DEET sprayed clothing. I found one crawling up on my front door jamb to my head level. I see them easily on my white dog as they crawl on top of her fur towards the head so I know they are numerous. I pick off of her and my clothes, put in ziplock baggie into microwave to kill before disposing. She takes a medication that kills them so not worried for her but what may be carried inside to me. I spray her fenced in yard which helps a lot . Mice and chipmunks transport ticks more than deer.I had 3 ticks bite me in my lifetime and 2 were on my back scalp beneath my hair. I can see how people miss them. Wear light colored clothing and look for them often, they can move faster than you imagine. Be proactive.
I've had a fair bit of experience with tick's when I live in the woods in BC Canada and they got into both my dogs regularly, and me occasionally. To remove a tick take tweezers and unscrew the tick anti-clockwise. It will come out easily and safely. If you don't do this the head will stay in and likely get infected.
Not ideal, Robert, but at least they took it out for you in the end. Well done for persisting. Nice that they froze the area for you first.
I've been Googling Lyme disease in the UK and it seems it's increased a lot in the last years, same as tick numbers are increasing. They say about 10 % of ticks now carry the disease, but I'm not sure if that's one particularly species of tick, or all ticks.
I'm particularly interested in the risks of ticks, because most years I seem to get at least one bite. The young daughter of a friend of mine caught Lyme disease and she has suffered longterm health problems ever since. She didn't realise she'd had a tick bite, but later blood tests showed it up.
Several years ago my doctor gave me a prescription of IC Doxycycline. I enjoy the outdoors and a few times have removed ticks,but was unsure if they were deer ticks so this single dose med was to be taken within the first 24hrs prophylactically.
I'm glad to see that you persisted and the doctor relented to begin treatment with doxy, but I'd insist on a 30 day treatment, especially as we tend to be very immunocompromised.
I've had Lyme twice, and was the first in my area in 2000. I had a bullseye on my shin from my veggie garden where deer frolic. Doctors said it was a spider bite so no treatment was given, though I had telltale fever, neck pain and a new chronic cough.
One year later, I had a second bite on my tailbone after a trip to a park in southern Illinois where I sat on rocks. Like you, I didn't know it was there and 3 days later, scraped it off with my fingernail. The soap must have helped to release the barbs.
I took the tiny tick to urgent care, and insisted on precautionary treatment and a test on Western Blot for borellia lyme disease. They were in disbelief, having never seen a lyme case here before. She didn't want to start treatment until she knew I was positive. I told them that you must wait 14 days for a test to come up positive per literature. I said I would not leave the office until I had a 30 day Rx of doxycycline in hand as a precaution.
She reluctantly obliged.
At day 3, the early test came up negative as literature predicted, but I still insisted I had lyme due to the expanding 4" bullseye and localized numbness. After my test was repeated at 14 days, it was flaming positive for several bands, even though I'd already taken doxy for 10 days before retesting. She had to apologize, and said I was the first ever in my country in Illinois.
There are other parasites that can be introduced in tick bites. I hope you are able to convince your doctors to continue treatment with doxy.
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