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I have CLL for about 20 years , and my first treatment was about one year ago. I’m on IMBRUVICA 420 mg. Has anyone ever experienced little red itchy bumps on their body?

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petechia is a common problem when taking imbruvica

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NewdawnAdministrator in reply to

However petechial red spots do not typically cause any symptoms like pain or itching.

I’ve had extensive petechiae on Ibrutinib but they’re not itchy or raised. Mention it to your haematologist because he /she may be able to suggest a topical treatment.

Newdawn

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tizhmslf in reply to

I'm on 420mg for over a year and have pepechiae on both arms, some turning into large blotches. I had a very large blotch on most of my left forearm.

I did cut back to 140mg for a month, and most went away. Now back on 420mg and spots returning. Ugly!

sometimes an allergic rash is just that.

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country76

I am also on Imbruvica 420mg and mine are Petechia so do not itch. I also had a rash all over my legs and feet, which also didn't itch however they treated me with allergy pills and it slowly went away. I seem to have side effects that pop up and then go away. This month I have cracking fingertips, right next to the nail, painful. Also the leg, hand and back cramping.

I seem to be touching all the symptoms one at a time. Most go away.

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gardening-girl

Jaming, are you taking a prophylactic antiviral? If not it is possible depending, on how the rash is distributed, that you are experiencing a shingles outbreak. If you think that there is any chance that your rash might be due to shingles it is important that you receive antiviral treatment within 72 hr.

gardening-girl

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Jaming in reply togardening-girl

Gardening-girl, no not taking an antiviral. Dr said it was done type of lice. I live in a senior apartment, so no telling how I got it. Go figure right !

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gardening-girl in reply toJaming

Yuck Jaming, hope you got it taken care of!

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Jaming in reply togardening-girl

I sure did gardening-girl

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Ironj

Hello Jaming

Just curious are you mutated and what is your Fish profile ? How old were you when you were diagnosed? Seeing 20 years is great to see before first treatment.

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Jaming in reply toIronj

I was diagnosed in 1994. My first treatment was July of 2018. I take 420mg if imbruvica once daily. No problem with it so far. I was in my middle 40’s when I was diagnosed. Don’t know my fish profile. Thanks IRONJ.

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J_88

Love hearing people having CLL for 20+ years.

Sushibruno profile image
Sushibruno in reply toJ_88

Me too J_88 makes me feel better. I don't want to have treatment for a long long time.

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Sierrastar in reply toJ_88

When I was diagnosed last February my oncologist said to me don’t worry, people live for 30 years with CLL. I said this was really exciting news since I am already 76!

Elizabeth.

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Jaming in reply toJ_88

J_88 It’s been 25 years for me. Just started treatment last July. Feeling good thou

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J_88 in reply toJaming

Thats Awesome.

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Jaming in reply toJ_88

Thanks J_88

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J_88 in reply toJaming

what are your deletions?

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Jaming in reply toJ_88

I haven’t deleted anything yet. Have not been on too long

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J_88 in reply toJaming

No i mean are you 13q deleted, 11q or 17p?

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Jaming in reply toJ_88

Oh sorry, I don’t know that term. What is it?

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Mayor44

Yes Jaming.. I too get a very itchy rash and have to take citerizine antihistamine tablets daily. I also bath in Hydromol emollient and apply Hydromol ointment to my skin. I find bathing every other day seems to help as well, instead of everyday. Tight clothing also irritates my skin so I am careful about that.

This regime seems to work for me.

Regards

Mayor

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Jaming in reply toMayor44

Mayor45 Dr told me it was lice. Go figure. Never had that before.

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GPip

Hi Jaming

Sorry you’ve got itchy bumps after your treatment. I’m on different treatment , just finished 4 th round if BR. After second round I got an itchy rash on my body arms legs and head. It was extremely itchy. The only thing that worked for me was Benadryl during the day ( 12 hrs) and then piriton every 4-6 hours overnight to help me sleep. They never quite decided if it was the treatment or the allopurinol that’s was causing it but I haven’t had it since. Moisturising is important but if it’s an itchy rash you may need something more. I hope it improves very soon.

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Sierrastar in reply toGPip

Google Harvard report re Benadryl

impact on Alzheimer’s. Best wishes, Elizabeth.

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GPip in reply toSierrastar

Thanks! Glad I only took it for a few days in the end !

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Bowie1957

What are you talking about sounds like Folliculitis. Can be treated with antibiotics, pills or cream. Check with your dermatologist. I have CLL, but not on treatment yet and I get them every now and then.

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Mimi4times

Yes! But I have CLL & CML. I am on the chemo “Gleevec “. I get them mostly on my face .

Maria In GA

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tedrog in reply toMimi4times

me too. i’m on Sprycel (1.5 years) because he said there is some indication it may also help CLL.

i have had skin issues. they (derm) say Grover’s disease. they say mot related but i never any such issues. then i got a squamous cell carcinoma on my cupid’s bow surgically removed.

i get bumps on my scalp... they come and go different places. sometimes i can sorta scrap them; sometimes they/it might be slightly sore so no “picking.”

basically, my skin ... i am almost always scratching some where.

main thing is: my face.

first they (derm) said Grover’s doesn’t go on neck and face... oh yes it does.

i noticed my facial hair, particularly above my lip, the hair follicles or a hair(s) to touch felt like glass chard... to move or touch was ouchy.

nobody has any answers.

derms are lousy, but expensive.

i guess it’s better to just be alive. (not that i was in bad shape and now cml is mostly gone, but lethargic effects and listlessness remain... tired, weak.

but then i pretty much sit all day.

very glad to see a thread.

the cml forum i found is nothing like this one. it’s weird navigation and afaict not very active like this one.

so, i guess i won’t be asking to switch to gleevec. i doubt that would be possible anyway.

thank you

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Redlion

I had several occurrences of small red blisters on my feet which were quick to come and slow to go, and they were itchy, during the first few months of starting on Ibrutinib. Whether or not this was petechiae I have no idea but it was definitely related to starting on Ibrutinib and is something that has been reported by many people on this forum who are on Ibrutinib. Whilst Ibrutinib is extremely effective at targeting and clearing CLL out of the system it also has some less welcome off target effects and it is very likely that this is one of them. Good luck.

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cryimbr

Are they like hard knots that tend to be red and itch and pop up unexpectedly on various parts of your body. They are slightly painful to touch and slow to go away.

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Canuck901

That’s a normal

dose you ,rashes are a common side effect. You may need to get tested for toxicity and lower the full side by 140mg or more

I was reading an article about the Ibruntnib side effects and toxicity and that’s what they recommend

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mrsjsmith in reply toCanuck901

If you are referring to a dose of 420mg Imbruvica that is the normal dose.

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Canuck901 in reply tomrsjsmith

Yeah that is the Norma dose but once yoh start experiencing toxicity lower dose .

You shouldnt have side effects after a year

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mrsjsmith in reply toCanuck901

That was not clear from your last post and I disagree with you. I experienced a mild itch after more than a year.

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Canuck901 in reply tomrsjsmith

Sorry was just reading abour ibruntnib

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mrsjsmith in reply toCanuck901

No problem,

But believing all the possible side effects could be dangerous. My late mother in law would read all the side effects of all her prescriptions and worry and then convince herself she had them all.

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Canuck901 in reply tomrsjsmith

Yes I understand most depends on age , people in their 80s and up are definitely more susceptible to these side effects and intolerances. Why even expose them to these if there are better options ?

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Jemorgen

Hi Jaming. I’m not taking imbruvica but I thought I’d weigh in because I also get pinpoint tiny raised bumps that are very itchy. I kept thinking they were flea bites but no one else is getting bit and they are mostly on my trunk and not typically clustered at all. I’m on bendamustine/rituxamab but I started getting these dang things before I started treatment. I think they’re CLL-related; not treatment-related.

They are not petichae, nor are they abundant enough to consider them a rash - maybe 2 dozen spread over my trunk and arms.

I do find some relief with topical hydrocortisone cream bought over the counter (not prescription).

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Canuck901 in reply toJemorgen

Yeah the hydrocortisone 1% is good anti itch for hives etc . You can get it and most pharmacies OTC even Costco

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Stelladoro

Hi.......I have little bumps by my elbow..on both arms....like little lymph nodes

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Varney

Hi Jaming,

I have had rash above my lower right ankle since June. I started I&O at Mayo’s in April of this year The rash has persisted until October and is slowly disappearing.

I did see my local Dermatologist at Mayo’s suggestion, but they could not give me a diagnosis. They prescribed a steroid which only alleviated some of the redness & itchiness. It was itchy, red, and bumpy and was confined to only that part of my body. I did not have any other allergic symptoms so the only thing I did was to continue the use of the steroid which did nothing to shorten the duration.

I have a Dermatology appointment at Mayo’s in November, but feel that the only way to get definitive diagnosis will be a biopsy, if even that will reveal what it is. Will post after my appointment in November.

It definitely is not a petechial rash.

Varney

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lamboman

I did and still do. I was on a Ibrutinib/Venetoclax trial for 12 months. I'm MRD neg and off the drugs now but I still have a back rash with very itchy small bumps.

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Sushibruno in reply tolamboman

Congrats, How long have you been mrd negative?

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lamboman in reply toSushibruno

11 months now

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Sushibruno in reply tolamboman

I hope it's the cure for you. It's what we all want. I think about cll every second of the day and hope to see a cure one day. It plays with me physiologically.

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lamboman in reply toSushibruno

I don't think it's a cure but a reset button. The drugs got rid of the bad cells but they didn't teach the immune system to do it like CAR-T does. It just takes a few CLL cells to restart the doubling process with mutations that might be completely different. The worse case scenario, it is buying me years before the CLL cells invade my body again. Then we might have other drugs and maybe a way to teach the immune system to work against CLL.

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J_88 in reply tolamboman

You don't think MRD negative might be a cure?

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Sushibruno in reply toJ_88

Too early to know only time will tell, it's my understanding.

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cll2013

Oh my YES. For 6 months I had itchy bumps all over legs from ankles to knees. Now that I am off all meds, I was surprised when the same thing broke out between my fingers, now 6 months duration.

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Jaming

I did. Think they told me it was coming from my blood. Never bother me , thou

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