2nd blood results

So my son had his 2nd blood results back today and levels are still borderline not gone up not gone down. Worried again

[AyrshireK]

It's entirely possible that these borderline results are his normal - some people just don't fit the normal lab range. As they are only borderline then they arn't indicating any ongoing liver inflammation (as i've said previously Doctors don't worry about these markers unless they have reached 3 or 4 times upper limit of normal - in some liver conditions you'll see bloods off the scale into the many hundreds or even thousands). Nor do they indicate long term liver damage.

No need to worry, has GP indicated the next plan? i.e. potentially repeat in a couple of months time.

Absolutely no cause of concern if they borderline and not hugely deranged.

Your son just needs to follow a healthier lifestyle - perhaps increase his exercise, watch his diet and overall just look after himself.

Katie

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Thankyou for your reply GP wants him to have a ultrasound scan. She said she’s not worried though I just thought because they stayed the same she would of left it has that x

[AyrshireK in reply to Hidden]

She's just being thorough which is great service because she could have just left it. Still no need to be panicking.

Katie

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Thankyou you Katie x

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Hi AyrshireK sorry to be a pain would other things have shown up in blood tests other than his borderline results because apparently nothing did but just wondering if other things can though. Thankyou

[AyrshireK in reply to Hidden]

I don't quite grasp what you mean - routine bloods include a full range of liver function tests, kidney function tests, full blood count, platelets and more.

They reveal results for all manner of things. Without knowing which bloods in particular were slightly elevated/borderline we couldn't hazard a guess as to what looks a bit off. Some of the bloods will be inflammation markers (ALT, AST, ALP, GGT), some will be the enzymes which the liver circulates etc.

Borderline really isn't something to be fretting about - as doctor has said (and a few others of us here) some peoples normal may be out of the standard lab range - that doesn't mean there is anything the matter it just means that is normal for them.

[Ubwa]

Do you know what results where “borderline”?

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I don’t sorry

[pushthrough]

Well being borderline is a whole lot better than being over the normal limit. It's a shame you weren't told which results are borderline.

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Yes it is better. GP didn’t say anything else just said it may be normal for him but will do a scan. Thankyou for your message x

[DavyGravy]

Hi Julie

As Katie says, it is excellent service, I'm sure the scan is just routine to confirm all is okay... If the doctor is 100% certain your son is okay, then it can still be routine to do a scan just to show that all procedures were followed even if it was not necessarily required. So yes, excellent service but nothing to worry over.

How are you though Julie? are you seeking help with your anxiety? spoken to a doctor? you really should, anxiety may start as a problem in our minds but it will lead to physical damage if it is not treated.

Dave

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Hi Dave Thankyou for your reply. I’m really worried obviously but Katie and yourself have made me feel better. The GP was not worried and did say maybe that his results are normal for him but he’s still young to be like that which did worry me. He asked if there was anything he should or shouldn’t do and she no your fine. Just told him not to worry and she would book a scan. As for myself I’m off work until the 21st of Feb but not sure if that’s doing me any good at all. I’m hardly going out the house on my own it feels scary I just wait till my partner comes home from work I do his dinner and that’s about it. The only time I have gone out is literally to pick my younger son up who has broke his knee just to bring him back to mine. I just feel so anxious the thought of going out and to work even though my partner works with me. I put this on my suck note when I requested it and all the doctor done was sign me off no phone call nothing. Thankyou for asking.

[Hidden]

Hi Julie,

As the GP has said, these blood results may be normal for your son. An ultrasound scan will provide more clinical information and is a useful test to order. The GP is being very thorough.

From your replies on this thread, we would suggest that it may be time for you to think about prioritising yourself and perhaps ask your GP for help managing your anxiety.

We send you our very best wishes

Trust1

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Thankyou I appreciate yourself and everyone else being so kind and supportive to myself. I will be speaking to my GP. Thankyou again

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You are welcome, take care Julie.

[Roy1955]

Most likely the scan will be clear but that's probably not the end of it.Once the Dr's got you they keep on delving!

Highly likely they will want to repeat bloods every 6 months to start with and then probably yearly for life!

That does not mean he is sick!

It's just what Dr's do!

A couple of times my Dr said my BP was high, I checked at home and it was normal.

Dr wanted to put me on BP meds but I insisted on a 24 hour BP test.

That came back normal.

Because of the original entry my records still say I have high BP and they keep calling me in to have it checked.

Don't worry if they continue to repeat tests, it's all part of being in the system and not an indication that something is wrong.

And listen to Trust 1, that's good advice.

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Hi Roy1955 thankyou for your reply. I’m trying hard not to overthink and worry. Difficult for me as you know. I’m Mrs Google. 😂. I guess if nothing is wrong it’s still good to be kept in their system. I was exactly the same as you with blood pressure always fine when I checked it at home awful at the doctors. I also didn’t want tablets and yes your right they keep badgering away. I guess we should be grateful they do really. Thanks again for a lovely message. Keep well and have a lovely weekend x

[Aotea2012]

I have liver disease. I don’t worry anywhere near the amount you are worrying about your son who is well. The GP sounds amazing and is being incredibly thorough. I live a perfectly normal life and make sure I eat properly, take my meds and avoid alcohol. As an experiment whilst he is waiting for his scan, why doesn’t he eat a Mediterranean diet and cut out alcohol completely. I bet everything will be even more normal than they are now.

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Thankyou for your message I appreciate it . The thing is he actually doesn’t eat unhealthy or drink to excess.

[pushthrough in reply to Hidden]

Hello Julie, I'm only bringing this up because I had no idea. I a lot of people who say they "eat healthy" really aren't. It wasn't until I got this disease that I realized how much salt and sugar is in virtually everything. It's even pretty hard to find food without salt.

I honestly didn't even know that 2,000 mg of salt was the normal daily intake. I don't know if you have ever tried eating less than 2,000 mg of salt (I have to), but it makes food very bland. You have to get creative and use vinegar, lemon zest, and Mrs. Dash.

People who eat salads and use salad dressing, nope. Take a look at that bottle of salad dressing and see how many calories and everything else is in there. Keep in mind all of those ingredients are per serving.

I say all this because marketing, society, and eating out has made us ignore all this. It's even worse in the states because they put all sorts of stuff in our food that Europe has banned.

I think your son is going to be fine.

I agree with trust on the anxiety issue and you know I have brought it up before. Please do not brush it that off because that is another disorder that will only get worst. Anxiety can easily turn into agoraphobia and ruin your life if it's not addressed as soon as possible. I'm afraid from your messages your anxiety is getting worse. There is no shame in it, I have it and take 2 medications for it instead of 1 because of the lock downs and my diagnosis. Feel free to message me and I will tell you about my battle with anxiety/panic disorder.

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Hi Thankyou for your message I understand what your saying about salt intake and stuff there are a lot of salt in things we wouldn’t even know. When I say he eats healthy I don’t mean he eats salads all the time but is definitely not a snack between meals type either. Meals always include veg and once a week vegetarian and vegan what I’m saying he try’s his best. As for my anxiety yes I agree I definitely need to get it sorted it’s taking over my life. Thankyou for your kind message xx

[Aotea2012 in reply to Hidden]

I’m sure he doesn’t. Just get him to give it a go and see what happens.

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Hi was confused about your message I’m sure he doesn’t have I missed a message in between

[Aotea2012 in reply to Hidden]

Sorry. It’s in reply to your reply above. Before pushthrough’s comment. For some reason it didn’t come out directly after your reply. I’m essentially saying that I’m sure your son doesn’t eat unhealthily or drink to excess, but get him to try the Mediterranean diet and alcohol free approach and see how it goes.

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Ahh Thankyou yes I will. Sorry for confusion x

[Zukosmile07 in reply to Aotea2012]

Even more normal then they are now.... how we laughed..... Sorry but they are normal Julie, mine are high with a new liver after a transplant (slight rejection). I'm not worrying because my consultant and the people on here told me it's just a tweaking of medication.... sorted...Danny x

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Thanks Danny they are not normal just the same has 1st bloods but at least no change xx

[Zukosmile07 in reply to Hidden]

I know I was laughing at Aotea....XHow are you now, have you taken time to deal with your problem with anxiety?

I will tell you this Julie just to let you know about bloods. When you was bad and I got admitted to hospital, my bloods came back deranged on all.(no readings just deranged) I'm still here love, please stop and listen to the advice from the doctors and he will be fine.

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Thanks Danny. Xxx

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I’m trying to deal with the anxiety Danny I really am. Not been at work for 2 weeks just don’t want to go out the house. I’ve still got next week off as well. I’m really trying and you guys are helping xx

[Ubwa in reply to Hidden]

Because of this?

[Hidden in reply to Ubwa]

Yes because of this

[Ubwa in reply to Hidden]

Ok I am about to be a bit harsh, but I am not doing it through malice but to hopefully help you try get off this path, that is quite frankly getting a bit silly.

Firstly, you don't even know what the individual results of the tests are, so your googling is useless. All it is leading you down is some weird anxiety fueled dunning-kruger effect bias, that is fueling more of your anxiety. Stop it. You don't have enough information to make any informed deductions. "Some levels are borderline" doesn't begin to give you enough to rationally seek out meaningful indications. So please , stop Googling, People who actually know what they are talking about (your son's doctor) and people here who have actually suffered or are suffering have both told you it's nothing to worry about so LISTEN.

Now to mental health and anxiety,which are both real problems. While it's not a competition, can you imaging the anxiety I felt being told you have a 95% chance you will die, and being passed DNR form to sign? Did i curl into a ball? No i went ok thanks, and actually went back to work. Now everyone is different but you need to get a handle on this as IMO it's an order of magnitude more serious an issue than your son. The fact you are taking so much time off work due to it shows this. Your son is currently fine with some abnormal blood results. Guess what, I bet if you sampled the university populations a significant chunk will have borderline or even worse results. By being this anxious and working yourself up so much you are on the way to a heart attack or other stress induced incident.

The important bit here is to say that you are currently no good should your son have had an issue. If you get like this over nothing, what if it gets worse or was worse? I shudder to think. I have a mother too, and she was a significant factor in my recovery. She was my rock when I needed her to be and kept me fighting. She's also a Doctor, so she has seen how people like me normally go, so it was doubly hard on her. Get out of this rut, stop trying to ask a rock if it will rain tomorrow ( as that's as useful as googling when you don't even know what levels are borderline) , and be ready to be there should your son need it, which it sounds like he won't currently.

[Hidden in reply to Ubwa]

Thankyou Thankyou Thankyou. I really needed a message like this and I sincerely mean that. You are right the doctor hasn’t told him to stop anything at all she said there was no need to. I do need to stop the googling I know that. I appreciate everything you have said to me. I really hope everything is good with yourself and I hope obviously that everyone is right about my son. Thankyou again. Xx

[Kakey]

To be honest Julie, I don't think there's anything anyone here can say that will reassure you. I hope your son's scan will rule out any problems, which seems to be what the doctor expects.

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Thankyou

[Smegmer]

But what numbers are you talking about ?

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Hi the GP didn’t say

[Smegmer in reply to Hidden]

If you are in the UK just ask for reception to print a copy off for you. Thats all I had to do.