Spider angioma

[Popel]

Hi all.excuse the state of my hand.

Stupidly As a gas man I always put these spider veins down to the physical job I’ve got of replacing the highway gas mains in all weathers.five years ago I had my first Bleed in my oesophagus but developed this spider Naevi five years before.so in hindsight I should of gone to the doctors with it because at the time I was also suffering with severe cramp especially in summer.i so kick myself from not going.basically they we’re the first signals that my body was telling me something is up.but I left it.which I ended up with a decompensated liver which resulted in a liver Transplant two months ago.so what’s done is done but i just wanted to point this out to anyone who has any similar issues that they shouldn’t bury their heads and get to their doctors ASAP so they can get the chance to do something about it.Although I had spider veins on my hands at first it was only in last two years that they developed on my chest and feet.as most people are aware the spider veins are usually in most cases mean that you have developed varices. But Im not expecting them to disappear now that I have a new liver I think I’ve just got to live with them.also one last point the first time of getting the cramps and veins my hands were really red and swollen which is another indicator of your liver struggling even though the main reason of my liver disease was through hep C I also developed dupuytrens which interestingly is known as Viking finger named because of the vikings liking for alcohol and fondness for being intermarried which is a fibrosis and thickening of the palms.anyway sorry for rattling on.it happens to be 4in the morning and as per usual couldn’t sleep.so hope it helps someone.thanks.paul

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Hi

How are you this morning?

Thanks , Paul, it's one to look out for. And yes, I can't sleep either!! Pain really bad , hot water bottle does help but some nights it's just too warm for it. I usually end up reading or going on you tube. Take care Lynne

[Popel in reply to Hidden]

I know sleeping used to be my super power.i used to Annoy karen in that I could sleep on a log.but this was before cirrosis kicked in.then when it did I’d get an hour or two.i was expecting to be able to sleep properly after a TP but no I can’t.im told it’s the meds in particular the steroids but I don’t know.thanks Paul

[jazzjam in reply to Popel]

Thats really interesting thank you. Although you know at times a bit scary. I developed the spider well before I was diagnosed and found out I did have varices, they have since gone on my last camera. I am due again next month, strangely though the spider has increased over my chest area, anyway fingers crossed, I’ll see what is said after the camera.

You mention the steroids keeping you awake, I was given only one month dose about 6 months after the cirrhosis diagnosis, it was a fantastic month!! Yes I didn’t sleep long hours but wow when I was awake I really was, the world was my oyster. I could really understand then how people get addicted to steroids.

Congratulations on you transplant, I hope all keeps improving for you 👍

[Popel in reply to jazzjam]

Thanks.paul👍

[Hidden in reply to Popel]

Hi

I'm the same, some nights I don't get any sleep re pain. My consultant said I will need transplant one day but not yet. I hope you start sleeping better soon. Take care Lynne

[Bootandall]

That's interesting, my grandmother had Dupuytren's, needed surgery to release it. 😐

She had so many of the same symptoms I have I believe she had cirrhosis, at times variously compensated or decompensated, her care wasn't coordinated by a specialist. I have spider angiomas on the feet and ankles and legs, and the therapy for them is a laser that cauterizes the vein, but it's often considered cosmetic.