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Jools2020Graduate10
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No gremlins this morning, I was up and out of the door at about 6.45 a.m. ๐Ÿ˜Š

I do feel that my runs are hard work right now. My heart rate just goes straight up. Perhaps it will keep doing that until I become less anxious. I asked myself today โ€œwhat would you advise if someone else asked about this?โ€ And my answer would be to slow right down. I just have problems with doing that, of course!

I start off very slowly, but by the 3rd km Iโ€™m staring to speed up a little and Iโ€™m running at the top end of Zone 4. Itโ€™s an effort and I try to ease off a little. My body wants to speed up but I just canโ€™t do it right now. Apart from the last km, but I always keep something in reserve for that.

My stats reflect how hard I was working, yet my overall pace was slow. Iโ€™ll keep on getting out there, hoping for a breakthrough, but perhaps as long as Iโ€™m anxious Iโ€™m going to get similar results.

Positives:

I got up and ran for 5K โœ…

I felt good after the run โœ…

I managed negative splits โœ…

Last km time was pretty good โœ…

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Frenc profile image
FrencGraduate1060minGraduate

Well done Jools2020, glad to hear those gremlins didnโ€™t drop in overnight ๐Ÿ˜Š. Iโ€™m sorry to hear about the anxiety, it sucks and can definitely affect effort. Prob a bit out there, but I had really low iron levels and it manifested itself as an incredibly high HR and breathlessness, on top of general anxiety anyway! Iโ€™d be lying in bed ready to go to sleep and my heart rate would be through the roof, it was quite scary. Itโ€™s just a thought and Iโ€™m sure youโ€™re on top of all that kind of stuff. Anyway, a great run, I like the look of that nice quiet road. All the best ๐Ÿ˜Š๐Ÿƒโ€โ™€๏ธ๐Ÿ˜Š๐Ÿƒโ€โ™€๏ธ๐Ÿ˜Š๐Ÿƒโ€โ™€๏ธ.

Jools2020 profile image
Jools2020Graduate10โ€ข in reply toFrenc

Thanks, Frenc. Iโ€™m going to get my iron levels checked out for sure! Didnโ€™t occur to me. ๐Ÿ˜Š

Frenc profile image
FrencGraduate1060minGraduateโ€ข in reply toJools2020

Ah brill - I hope you enjoy the rest of your weekend. ๐Ÿ˜Š

AlMorr profile image
AlMorrAmbassadorGraduate10

Good run for you today Jools2020, slow and steady is the mantra slogan here on C25K, as long as you enjoyed it that's the main thing. ๐Ÿ˜Š ๐Ÿƒ๐Ÿพ

Jools2020 profile image
Jools2020Graduate10โ€ข in reply toAlMorr

I enjoyed flying downhill for the last kilometre ๐Ÿ˜Š

AlMorr profile image
AlMorrAmbassadorGraduate10โ€ข in reply toJools2020

Excellent โœˆ flying downhill for your last kilometer, congratulations.

Jools2020 profile image
Jools2020Graduate10โ€ข in reply toAlMorr

๐Ÿ˜Š thank you, Al!

Instructor57 profile image
Instructor57Graduate10

Well done Jools ! Good that there were no Gremlins this morning

That's got to be good as I know they have been around lately.

You still have your control over your splits, and as you say perhaps the anxiety dosent help the HR.

Your still going through a difficult time and I know only too well it does affect our performance.

You will however come through to the other side ๐Ÿ‘

Jools2020 profile image
Jools2020Graduate10โ€ข in reply toInstructor57

Thanks, Ian. Coming through to the other side anytime soon, would be great! ๐Ÿ˜Š

Instructor57 profile image
Instructor57Graduate10โ€ข in reply toJools2020

Your on the journey , it will happen ๐Ÿ‘

Instructor57 profile image
Instructor57Graduate10โ€ข in reply toJools2020

Oh, and is that a hill I see in your picture ?๐Ÿค”๐Ÿ˜

Jools2020 profile image
Jools2020Graduate10โ€ข in reply toInstructor57

I doubt if I could show you a picture without one! ๐Ÿ˜ฌ

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GailXrunning

Anxiety is really tough - and much tougher than many recognise. Sending solidarity and hugs as you work through this phase. Getting back to peak performance: that can and will wait, and will likely pop up when you least expect it. In the meantime, focus on those positives. Just how amazing are these? You run: i know this is a running forum (where we might take it for granted) but, in itself, thatโ€™s such an achievement!! You got out there today with relative ease: you just wanted that early run and nothing stopped you. It makes you feel good, and the good vibes come even (especially?) when the process felt hard! You can do perfect negative splits: such awesome control (despite the disjunct you report): oh, I wish! And look at that last split: youโ€™re a rocket on that final stretch! ๐Ÿ‘Œ๐Ÿ‘Œ๐Ÿ‘Œ๐Ÿ‘Œ๐Ÿ‘Œ

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Jools2020Graduate10โ€ข in reply toGailXrunning

Thank you! I listed the positives so I would realise that there were some ๐Ÿ˜Š and also because I know that there are other members who suffer from anxiety, too and it might remind them to do the same. I was surprised at how many there were!

This anxious time for me will end sometime soon - I hope that this is the worst time for me and Iโ€™ll come out the other side still able to run. I appreciate your positive post and yes, I was a rocket on that last Km even though it was downhill ๐Ÿ˜ฌ.

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GailXrunningโ€ข in reply toJools2020

It will end. Youโ€™ve taken the big step of recognising the anxiety and the courageous step of sharing that with others. Youโ€™ll come out of it running, literally and metaphorically - as well as stronger and wiser, knowing more of oneself and of the ways the human mind (and body) can work. I know this sounds odd - paradoxical - but there can be some huge positives from the negative experience itself. But, as others have said, for now itโ€™s one step at a time, celebrating each small gain along the way.

Week7 profile image
Week7Graduate10

Sorry things are so tough for you but it won't last forever- your negative splits and VRBs will long outlast the tough times .In the meantime one step at a time in life and running- don't forget you are running on hills now so it will take a while to get your times back to where they were in any case.

It's truly amazing that you are not only getting out and running but have such control over you runs that you are achieving the splits even in a hilly terrain!

As they say -when the going gets tough....

Jools2020 profile image
Jools2020Graduate10โ€ข in reply toWeek7

Thank you, Week7. I really appreciate your post. I missed a lot of runs when I first moved back here and sheer determination has got me running for twice a week. I had forgotten how difficult it was at the start because of the hills and that , at least, is getting easier. I will keep on getting out there. I know Iโ€™ll turn a corner soon, perhaps when I least expect it! ๐Ÿ˜Š

Week7 profile image
Week7Graduate10โ€ข in reply toJools2020

This running thing is all very symbolic isn't it? Virtually all the positives and negatives encountered work in life too: Hills to climb, one step at a time, corners to turn....and of course negative splits-or maybe not the last one-unless you do yoga?๐Ÿคช

Look after yourself, wishing you a better week this week

Jools2020 profile image
Jools2020Graduate10โ€ข in reply toWeek7

I hadnโ€™t thought of that! Thank you ๐Ÿ™

nowster profile image
nowsterGraduate10

Got to have your trademark negative splits! ๐Ÿ˜‰

I wouldn't worry too much about running in zone 4. My run today was mostly in zone 4. I suspect it's the warmth.

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Jools2020Graduate10โ€ข in reply tonowster

It could be partly that, youโ€™re right. Thanks, nowster ๐Ÿ˜Š

LottieMW profile image
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Argh! I was replying when there was an expected flying visit from my sonโ€ฆat the time you had only one replyโ€ฆand of course itโ€™s now disappeared into thin airโ€ฆ๐Ÿ™„

Of course now all the amazing VRBs here have stepped up with some wonderful commentsโ€ฆand I canโ€™t remember what Iโ€™d written ๐Ÿคฆ๐Ÿปโ€โ™€๏ธ

Love your positivity, despite the anxietyโ€ฆbeating the gremlins ๐Ÿ˜ˆ and getting out for a run, and feeling good!

Have you considered doing some deliberately slow runs? Maybe try and stick to 9 minute splits?

Could be interesting ๐Ÿคท๐Ÿปโ€โ™€๏ธ

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Jools2020Graduate10โ€ข in reply toLottieMW

Great to get a visit from your son! Both of mine called me this morning. One about coming to see me soon and the other inviting me for Sunday lunch tomorrow. ๐Ÿ˜Š Good suggestion about an ultra slow run; thank you ๐Ÿ™๐Ÿ‘

LottieMW profile image
LottieMWAmbassadorโ€ข in reply toJools2020

No probs ๐Ÿ‘

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BeatlesforeverGraduate10

Well done Jools 2020, it's good that the gremlins were nowhere to be seen this morning! ๐ŸŽ‰ great negative splits and who knows, maybe working on running slowly is the challenge that you need right now. But good advice from other VRBs to have some blood work done, you never know if there are other underlying causes for HR issues that are easily addressed. Keep getting out there, one run at a time ๐Ÿƒโ€โ™€๏ธ ๐Ÿค—

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Jools2020Graduate10โ€ข in reply toBeatlesforever

Thank you, BF. No idea where the gremlins got to! Running slowly could be the way to go right now. And I will talk to the doc next week. ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ˜Š

Birdlady64 profile image
Birdlady64Graduate10

Well done Jools! That's a nice run with a cracking last km!

My heart rate has also been rocketing on my runs recently - I'm sure it's stress related. I try not to worry too much about it as it only makes it worse

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Jools2020Graduate10โ€ข in reply toBirdlady64

I had thought it was stress related, but Iโ€™m going to have a blood test anyway I think as itโ€™s been going on since I arrived here over two months ago.

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Birdlady64Graduate10โ€ข in reply toJools2020

Can't do any harm. Hopefully it will set your mind at rest

Sandraj39 profile image
Sandraj39Graduate10

Following on from the reply by Frenc , I take extra iron because I know my iron levels have always been low when Iโ€™ve had my bloods taken. Annoyingly, I come back within range but always at the lower end so the GP is never bothered! I took it upon myself to make sure I take a supplement. (Shout-out for Spatone sachets) I also have an underactive thyroid which can effect iron uptake, I believe.

As for heart rate - despite looking in to hr training, I have returned to what has always worked for me - just running by feel!๐Ÿƒโ€โ™€๏ธ๐Ÿ˜€ I know I have a naturally high hr when running but I recover quickly from my runs and have a decent resting HR.

One thing I would say, is I know how tiring living with anxiety can be, so maybe this has impacted your running a bit?

Nice negative splits though - I had them as well today! ๐Ÿ˜€๐Ÿ™Œ

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Jools2020Graduate10โ€ข in reply toSandraj39

Thanks, Sandraj. I note your comments (as my solicitor says often ๐Ÿ˜Š) I donโ€™t want to take supplements without checking as Iโ€™m already taking other tablets for anxiety - which may be part of the problem,

Well done for your negative splits, too! ๐Ÿ˜Š

Tinytears60 profile image
Tinytears60Graduate10

Well done Jools2020 A run is still a run- sorry youโ€™re suffering with anxiety but just look at what youโ€™re achieving ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘

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Jools2020Graduate10โ€ข in reply toTinytears60

Thank you Tinytears60 , hoping to turn a corner with all this sometime soon ๐Ÿ’•

SueAppleRun profile image
SueAppleRunGraduate1060minGraduate

Anxiety is so tiring Iโ€™m amazed you can get out fir a run at all and brilliant splits too! Have you tried Nike Run Club guided runs? Thereโ€™s a lot about running easy, relaxing in to the run and how awesome you are for getting out there and running. I canโ€™t do them every run as they are a bit repetitive but itโ€™s relaxing every so often.

HR zones, my aim was to have more zone 4 than zone 5 and it took months but now they are zone 4 and 3 almost equally part of that is because I keep trying to sprint which pushes it up.

The possible low iron was a good tip so good you will get bloods done.

For all the rest I admire you for being positive and going for a run.

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Jools2020Graduate10โ€ข in reply toSueAppleRun

Thank you, Sola; the HR thing did seem to coincide with me moving back here. Iโ€™m spending too long in zones 4 and 5, no wonder Iโ€™m finding it hard work! I loved the NRC guided runs but thanks for the reminder, I will revisit them!

Peter44 profile image
Peter44Graduate10

Sorry things are still making you feel so anxious, at least your still getting out there! ๐Ÿƒโ€โ™€๏ธHope it all starts to pick up, i'm really neglecting my running, hope to get back on it when work quietens down in a few weeks! ๐Ÿ˜€

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Jools2020Graduate10โ€ข in reply toPeter44

Thanks, Peter ๐Ÿ˜Š I hope you manage to find time for a run soon ๐Ÿ˜Š

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