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4K, new ‘form’, no pain but so out of breath!!!

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Woohoo! Found my medial glutes! Running up an incline was a totally different experience. No hip or knee pain either. Thanks Jimmers for sharing your links and progress following your hip pains. ‘Skateboarding’ feet really helps.

Now the downside - It was a LOT of effort! I caught myself slumping a couple of times. My hands crossed across my middle a few times. I was puffing like a steam train using new invisible muscles. I think I twist my upper body to compensate for lack of hip flick. And I almost got a stitch - and I never get those 🤣 But I am still learning all this stuff so it will take practice.

What next? Well, I am planning to do Park Run still on Saturday. See how that goes. And aerobic fitness obviously needs attention again - which means I have to start intervals in the pool now I have become conditioned to doing a mile 🙄

While I sort out my new form I won’t be doing tempo or fast. Jog or steady run all the way now until the GSR and then I’ll probably jeff it on the day. So I’ll be embracing the inner snail and working on distance, like Magic 10 here, rather than timed intervals and runs and trying to mix both programmes.

Well, that’s the plan anyway 🐌🐌🐌

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Bazza1234Graduate10

Do you breathe rhythmically??

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Equi-geekGraduate10 in reply to Bazza1234

I try to Bazza! I think trying to hold a bit of a conversation stuffs up any rhythm though!!

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Bazza1234Graduate10 in reply to Equi-geek

:) True - but it also means that you are still running just that little bit too fast to be fully conversational :)

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pinkaardvarkGraduate10

Sounds like hard work, but i'm sure it will be worth it in the end :). I have been trying similar things lately including the skateboard visualization which I think really does help for me. My big challenge is getting my cadence up as it just exhausts me rapidly trying to run at 165+. Last night I was trying my best to run to a quick 1,2,3,4 count but garmin says i only managed 160 average but my stride length was 1.2m and my calves were ruined. I have a HM in 3 weeks and my running has totally fallen apart lately, so here's hoping I find some good for :O

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Equi-geekGraduate10 in reply to pinkaardvark

Ooof! Yep, I’m 6 weeks away from the GSR and wondered at the wisdom of changing things now, but I am hoping the extra swim effort on non running days will help with aerobic fitness and using the right muscles now will protect me during the 10 mike effort, even though I may not be able to do the longer distances in training. Maybe we just need to chill out a bit about it, if running is so mental - I don’t know...

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Bazza1234Graduate10 in reply to pinkaardvark

Sounds to me like you may be overstriding a bit and when you try to up your cadence, you still maintain that "overstride" and hence get exhausted. - try this maybe. Using a phone based Metronome App set it up to beep at say 160 BMP and run as you normally do at the 1.2 metre stride. Alter the cadence BPM around 160 until you feel really comfortable with everything, pace, BPM and stride length. THEN change the BPM right up to 180 and run at the SAME pace ( the only way you can do this is to reduce stride length .) See how that feels. It will certainly feel different - but you may indeed be able to run at the higher BPM with less tendency to overstride??

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Equi-geekGraduate10 in reply to Bazza1234

I was choosing 160bpm tracks but didn’t use music on this run on Thursday, for a change, so I may well have been over-striding Bazza, thanks! Yesterday’s PR was aerobically better, and I was trying to sing ‘Shake it off’ and ‘I predict a riot’ to myself to keep my cadence up. 😁👍

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Equi-geekGraduate10 in reply to Bazza1234

Have also just contacted my running buddy about changing our programme to lessen the risk of us both over-striding (she’s been having ankle niggles)

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Sqkr

I love that people are talking about the skateboard motion. A wee while ago I had a sort of epiphany on a longer run about how my own legs move, and at the time I likened it to one of those flappy wooden push-along ducks, and now that's what I always visualise to keep my legs in order when they get sloppy. I wish I'd thought of a skateboard. It seems a lot more cool than a duck toy 😂

Accurate image of me running:

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Equi-geekGraduate10 in reply to Sqkr

🤣👍👍 great form - that did make me laugh!!!

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pinkaardvarkGraduate10 in reply to Sqkr

I will give it a try..

youtube.com/watch?v=tw5VPAP...

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Sqkr in reply to pinkaardvark

I don't know where you got that video of me running, but my form is pretty good eh 👍

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pinkaardvarkGraduate10 in reply to Sqkr

Actually it's a bit stiff and wooden, like you have a pole up your a$%^ ;)

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Equi-geekGraduate10 in reply to pinkaardvark

🤣

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Sqkr in reply to pinkaardvark

We all have our quirks 🙁

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ju-ju-Graduate10

Well done you, and getting good form is the best thing you can do ( in my book anyway) and enjoy park run...

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Equi-geekGraduate10 in reply to ju-ju-

Thanks ju-ju-! It did feel better today 👍

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Razouski

Enjoy Parkrun tomorrow.

And good luck with intervals. I hate ‘em. 😉

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Equi-geekGraduate10 in reply to Razouski

It was a much better run today thanks! Intervals - Urgh! Me too!

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Fabulous450Graduate10

And marvellously well you did at Parkrun too! Was great to see you today Equi!! You looked in brilliant form! I need to find my medial glutes!! Another day perhaps!! 😁😁❤️

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Equi-geekGraduate10 in reply to Fabulous450

Lovely surprise to see you again today - looking even more Fabulous these days! I can’t believe you stuck an extra km in there as well 🤣👏

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Fabulous450Graduate10 in reply to Equi-geek

Aah it was lovely to see you too. Thank you. I try to just go with what’s next, even if with a little fear!! 😁❤️

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Equi-geekGraduate10 in reply to Fabulous450

But you know that fear and excitement are physically the same response to a stimulus - the only difference is our expectation of the outcome... which hasn’t happened yet 😁👏👍

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Fabulous450Graduate10 in reply to Equi-geek

I agree Equi. Running is so full of life lessons. Teaches you a lot about what can make happen, even though you can’t quite believe it. 😁❤️

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jimmersGraduate10

Well done!

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Equi-geekGraduate10 in reply to jimmers

Thanks Jimmers!

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