Vitamins & Minerals

Just wondering what vitamins & minerals people take. At present, I take C0q10, magnesium, vitamin c. I did take the other 2 vits on the awesome foursome list ( D-ribose, L-carnitine) but it was getting quite expensive.

[Milkfairy Heart Star]

I eat a varied diet and exercise to keep my endothelium healthy

I take too many pills already.

The thought of taking yet another tablet of unproven benefit to me along with producing very expensive wee is another reason to put me off.

[Hidden in reply to Milkfairy]

I see. Of course it’s a disputed area of cardiology. However, I do understand the importance of the bioenergetics of the heart, in particular the raw materials used by the mitochondria in ATP production. Hence my use of certain minerals. Dr Sanjay is a keen advocate of magnificent magnesium.

[Milkfairy Heart Star in reply to Hidden]

Yes, lots of confusing opinions

Opinions are just that and it's our choice how we decided to make an informed evidence based decision.

Through clinical trial results or just someone's opinion.

The art of medicine is the skilful compassionate application of medical science.

[Hidden in reply to Milkfairy]

I agree and disagree on a couple of points you’ve made. A medical opinion is critical in driving the science behind the art. After all a research question is formulated by someone’s or a collective opinion.

Cellular medicine is the pinnacle of debate because of the variables involved. Therefore, a medical opinion that is derived from years of day in day out practice in my mind carries some considerable authenticity, and can be juxtapositioned as evidence informed practice.

Anyway each to their own, off to enjoy the garden and the glorious sunshine now 🌞

[Milkfairy Heart Star in reply to Hidden]

Enjoy the sunshine🌞

[080311]

I have Actimel yought drink ( probiotic) everyday, I have diverticulitis and it seems to help me with that, also it’s says it helps boost the immune system. Not sure about that. But it tastes good and sets me up for my breakfast!

[Sunnie2day]

Living in NE Scotland+having been essentially housebound the past year, I do take a Vitamin D every day (and I make sure my husband does as well). Other than that, though, I don't take any other vitamin or nutritional supplement. Like Milkfairy, I try to get all mine from my diet - cooking fresh from scratch plus plenty of fresh fruit and veg nibbles (yum, carrot sticks!).

Now the weather is improving (it really is 'sunny today' where I live I'll probably continue with the Vitamin D.

[080311 in reply to Sunnie2day]

Hi Sunnie hope you are doing ok, glad the sun is shining on you. It’s the same here in the Central belt.

Best wishes Pauline

[Sunnie2day in reply to 080311]

It is so nice here I have washing out - sunny with a light breeze, I may even be able to get another load pegged out! Enjoy the weather today, apparently we're under advisement of thunderstorms for Thursday through Saturday (Thursday in the West, Fri and Sat the whole of Scotland!)

[080311 in reply to Sunnie2day]

Snap, have the first load out. We seem to have the same forecast as you for the next few days. John was at the hospital on Monday went in it was bright blue skies lovely sunshine, came out 20 minutes later it was raining so hard and blowing a whooly trying to hold the umbrella over John was a sight to behold 😂 hope your family in the States are all fit and well, take good care Pauline

[Sunnie2day in reply to 080311]

All good in the States, thank-goodness and thank-you for asking Hopefully you family abroad is well, and your husband had a good report on his progress Monday - and lol, good old Scotland, if you love the weather just wait an hour and it won't be so loveable! Next up - Midgie season!

[080311 in reply to Sunnie2day]

Everyone is good thank you, family in Poole are good, family in Australia also well they have had very few cases in Perth, they have an island called Rottnest and they had all the cases in a hospital there. The girls were back in school weeks ago.

John as a lesion on his ankle the GP wanted it looked at the clinic at the hospital in Ayr, Consultant decided it’s a pressure sore, and didn’t need a biopsy, since his stroke he doesn’t turn over in bed and it’s his stroke side. She wants me to try and get his ankle to dingle in mid air😂 so there is no pressure at all the last couple of nights have been amusing!

Good job we have a sense of humour. As you say if you don’t like the weather wait an hour and it might be something you will like. The strawberries are ripening lovely at the moment. The squirrel that takes great pleasure digging my bulbs up seems to be leaving them alone, I was sat having a coffee next to the French doors when he arrived on the decking and sat looking at me while he had a munch on one of my bulbs 😂couldn’t help but laugh he looked so pleased with himself.

You and your husband take really good care

Pauline

[Asti7]

I don't take any vitamins try to eat a healthy and varied diet. Take enough pills. Saying that I will probably start taking vit B as post menopause was taking anyway before heart diagnosis

[Pollypuss]

Personally I would rely on a healthy diet: steam vegetables, eat plenty of fish baked- or grilled not fried. Hardly any sugar or trans fats. Plenty of fruit - I eat lots of apples and bananas. I’ve seen magnesium mentioned often but I’m not sure. I feel I’ve been given another chance after bypass so I am very happy to try and keep my recycled body in tip top condition if I can

[Hidden]

Hi Boo

I don’t take any. I think balanced diet is good I haven’t been advised to take supplements. I do take a pill for hair skin & nails which I take in the hope it will stop my hair falling out!! Lol 😂

[tunybgur]

Very interesting discussion....must get a new medical dictionary. Just going to take my endothelium for a walk....

[Milkfairy Heart Star in reply to tunybgur]

The endothelium is the inner lining of blood vessels it as very much underrated organ.

It allows our blood vessels to relax and constrict, controls blood flow and pressure.

If damaged it can lead to a build up of plaque, blood clot formation and temporary constrictions or spasms.

Exercise is a very good way of keeping your endothelium healthy.

[tunybgur in reply to Milkfairy]

Thanks for the explanation, users of this site are nothing if not well informed!

[Milkfairy Heart Star in reply to tunybgur]

It's my specialist subject😉

[tunybgur in reply to Milkfairy]

As a coincidence I have just been reading an article on KAATSU where the word endothelial occurs....don't know if you've come across it? Link below...

fitness.mercola.com/sites/f...

[GracieOS]

Balanced diet mainly but I do take Fish Oil supplements, but that's mainly for my joints/arthritis.

[Ianc2]

As I am over 70 I take Wellman 70+ which contains vitamins A,D,E,C, and B, Co- q10, lots of minerals such as Iron and Zinc and manganese, along with Folic acid, etc. Does it work ? Don't really know but on balance each pill contains a lot of the stuff that I am told that my body tends to run short of as I get older. You pays your money, you takes your choice..

[Tillymint1971]

Like Milkfairy I avoided vitamins because I am taking enough pills already, but then my Cardiologist said I should take a Multivitamin so I have taken Centrum Woman for about a month and a half. It’s difficult to say if any help as I have continued to improve over last couple of months post op. But I have had Vitamin D deficiency in the past causing low mood and a boosted dose of that pulled me out of my malaise, so maybe there’s something in maintaining levels of vitamins and minerals through supplements.

[SmokeAKipper]

My cardiologist recommended magnesium citrate 375 mg take twice daily.. it’s a powder you dissolve in water... he said most heart patients lack magnesium.. also vitamin D

[Hannah-Hay in reply to SmokeAKipper]

Interesting that your cardiologist recommended magnesium mine doesn’t recommend any supplements & blood tests results I have had never show a vitamin level high or low as I don’t think they check those at my surgery. Have read that magnesium is good for heart. I think some medics are more receptive to vitamin & mineral supplements than others. I take metformin for diabetes which is supposed to deplete vitamin B12 bit have never been tested Maybe I should have a word with GP or cardiologist for their opinions.

[SmokeAKipper in reply to Hannah-Hay]

He also said not to take berocca as it breaks down into formaldehyde

[Hannah-Hay in reply to SmokeAKipper]

Not heard of berocca. Formaldehyde isn’t good.

[Hidden]

I agree with many, don't waste your £££ just eat a balanced diet.

[thetidders]

I had a critical electrolyte imbalance after a triple bypass 2 years ago & was prescribed Forceval multivitamin & evocal chewing tablets for D3 & calcium, I still take those as advised by my GP.

I also now take Magnesium capsules because the magnesium was low every time I had a blood test & had to be given magnesium sachets to bring the level up again. In the end with the agreement of the GP I bought some magnesium capsules to keep the level steady.

Jean

[dunestar]

I take CoQ10 which really helps with tiredness. Also Vit D as I was diagnosed with a deficiency a while ago. Plus fish oil. I think supplementation can help because as we get older our digestive systems become less efficient at extracting what we need from our food. But I agree it can get expensive.

[84green]

There is a recent thread on the benefits or otherwise of vitamin K2 supplements for artery health (and whether this counteracts the stabilising effects of statins).

I had asked my cardiologist about the benefits of taking ubiquinol. He was ambivalent. He stated that the best evidence he had seen was for fish oil as an effective heart supplement but that eating three portions of oily fish per week was a better and cheaper option in his view.

I do take magnesium citrate daily and have found that, together with a dessert spoon each of chia and flax seeds, I am no longer constipated (which was becoming a problem).

There is research to suggest that unless you have a specific vitamin or mineral deficiency, a healthy diet is better than supplements.

nhs.uk/news/medical-practic...

[hf54]

I can actually provide some “hard evidence“. regarding this. I live in Greece for six months a year and knowing that my diet there is extremely good and prior to my heart condition also my health I did not take any multivitamins. I had a vitamin test done (which was not every single vitamin but a good range) they all came up okay, no problems. When I started with my heart condition as the heart obviously works for the whole body if it’s not working as well as it should be the body has problems absorbing all the nutrients you need. This is why some people with heart conditions lose weight (which is a good thing) but cannot put it back on. It’s nothing to do with eating more it’s the absorption of the nutrients. Both the heart nurse and the doctor said it would be okay to take multivitamins. I do not do this every day probably about four times a week. It is a fact that the quality of the vitamins you absorb from food will be “ of higher quality “ than those taken with the tablets, however I feel that for a small cost of this it is worth it. It is worth investigating clearly your condition because the multivitamins I take DO NOT CONTAIN POTASSIUM. I buy them from a company called health span and they will deliver them to your door (Post Office at very good prices) I don’t work for them or have anything to do with them in any business sense. I hope this is of help to some people .

[Qualipop]

Vit D on doctor's advice and often add epsom salts to a bath ( magnesium) to ease muscle problems. It is absorbed through the skin

[AndtH]

I take Vitamin D3 4000IU.

[Alison_L]

Hi Boo_boo. I take Vit D, as my level fell to 27 (whatever that means!). My GP gave me a huge 10 week course and suggested I stay on the small dosage once a day pills from the supermarket.