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Magnesium & cq10

Rob6868
Rob6868

Anybody got any ideas of a good magnesium I can take? I'm getting a lot of muscle problems now and weakness and although I've started to change my diet I really believe I'm probably magnesium deficient and statins are causing some of these issues..

I've read a bit about magnesium citrate and glycinate and see that glycinate is a lot easier on the stomach and easier to absorb.

So that's the one I've been looking at .

But just wanted others opinions who may know more?

Alot of people in the heart society recommend it because most Americans and us guys are are severely depleted in it.

Thank you

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Eat bananas, they have a high level of magnesium content.

Rob6868
Rob6868
in reply to Quovadisuk

Lol OK. ..I eat plenty of them already.

I need more than bananas though I'm afraid.

But thank you

The advice of the NHS is that we should be able to get all the magnesium we need (plus all the other vitamins and minerals) from our regular diet. After all, that's what we've evolved to do!

In the case of magnesium eat sensible amounts of kale, spinach, oily fish, dairy, meat, nuts, brown rice and wholemeal bread and you'll get the required 300mg of magnesium each day.

nhs.uk/conditions/vitamins-...

I appreciate some people, for different reasons, might occasionally benefit from supplements. But taking dietary supplements can be a slippery slope. The list has a way of growing over time and before you know it you're spending a fortune at Holland & Barrett! I'd talk it over with your doctor first, you can easily be tested for magnesium deficiency and even if you do it privately it'll only cost you £29. You could spend that on supplements in no time!

medichecks.com/magnesium-te...

Surely the best strategy is to only consider a supplement if you're absolutely certain there's a permanent deficiency and it's impossible to get the necessary from your normal diet.

MichaelJH
MichaelJHHeart Star
in reply to Chappychap

You should have the appropriate blood test before self diagnosing. As said in the post above magnesium is contained in many foods. Most supplements should be run past your GP if you have heart problems and are on associated medication.

Hidden
Hidden
in reply to MichaelJH

The problem with blood tests for magnesium is that you need it in the cells but the blood tests only test the serum level, not the cellular one.

Rob6868
Rob6868
in reply to Hidden

Thank you Tynemouth

I was looking at for many reasons including a vasilidator because I'm experiencing a lot of muscle twitches cramps and aches all over the body.

Plus fatigue.

I never had anywhere near this kind of thing on the run up to being admitted for a stent procedure.

I believe I'm suffering angina but can't believe all of this is solely down to angina pain..

It's got to the point I've stopped going to the gym..

Really bad neck and shoulder ache for over two months now amongst other issues..

It's really getting to me and I'm thinking also that it could be the statins depleating the magnesium and Coq10 from my body

Hidden
Hidden

Hi Rob,

There isn’t an evidence base for taking magnesium supplements in muscle problems unfortunately.

That said some people do find that it helps. Magnesium citrate tends to be better absorbed than the others, I take 100mg a day. You can also get magnesium sprays which can be applied directly to the affected areas.

There is no doubt magnesium helps smooth muscle contractility, when I was nursing we used infusions to wonderful affect to treat acute exarcbations of asthma and some cardiac conditions. Be aware that people with impaired kidney function need medical advice before taking.

i too also agree that before delving in to self treatment that you see a doctor, i did a post on here regarding potassium problems and one of the second symptoms i got was muscular problems a blood test was carried out and confirmed the problem.

if it is magnesium then fair enough but without blood tests then it could be anything or something more serious going on, in the end it is not normal to get muscular problems like you are describing.

i have had more problems since and again they are coming back to check my bloods.

MichaelJH
MichaelJHHeart Star

It may simply be that you need a change of statin.

Rob6868
Rob6868
in reply to MichaelJH

You may well be right.

All the reading and research I've done indicates that magnesium supplements are very good for heart patients especially for relaxing them during twitches or spasms

Madeira19
Madeira19
in reply to Rob6868

Epsom salts have been around since the beginning of time, and an Epsom salts bath has always been recommended for aching muscles and guess what... it contains magnesium that can be absorbed by the body through the skin!

Your aching muscles could be caused by many different conditions, but the above suggests that it will alleviate your symptoms if not cure the cause also.

P.S a huge bag can be bought in Home and Bargain for around £3.00, should get around 4-5 baths out if that!😁

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Hidden

You might need a complete overhaul under the proper supervision of qualified practitioners (who are also MDs) if you want to go down that road.

You can buy magnesium oil , which is magnesium chloride ,which is most easily absorbed. It is quite expensive .You can spray that directly onto the chest or wherever you need to. I read magnesium is sometimes used in emergency when someone is having a heart attack so it is an important mineral for the heart. You could also put epsom salts in a bath which is cheap or buy magnesium salts which are a bit more expensive.

Co enzyme 10 make sure it’s the ubiquinol type. It works scientifically proven and it’s very safe google it

Rob6868
Rob6868
in reply to Foxyhole

Thank you

Yes I've heard of that name.

That's what I intend to find along with a form of magnesium.

I really think I'm deficient and need some kind of help with the cramps and spasms in enduring daily.

Nathan53
Nathan53
in reply to Rob6868

Hello Rob - Like other comments I generally believe we can obtain most vitamins from a good balanced diet. Having said that I have opted to supplement my good diet with:

1. Vitamin D (D3 virabiotics brand)

2. Solgar Ubiquinol (this is a type of coenzyme Q10 that is more readily absorbed)

3. Solgar Magnesium 200mg

4. Solgar Acidophilus plus

There are many brands of course - I chose the above because Solgar appears to be a well respected manufacturer and there is evidence that there products contain the potency they advertise. I checked with a Pharmacist that they would not interact with my prescription meds.

Rob6868
Rob6868
in reply to Nathan53

Thank you so much for your reply.

What you are currently doing is exactly the route I was thinking! Mainly because I just don't feel I'm getting the essential nutrients etc from my diet even though I'm trying. Christmas and kids running around with copious chocolatedoesn't help lol..

Have you had your vitamins levels checked in a blood test? I mentioned magnesium supplements to my cardiologist and he said on my blood work that the magnesium levels were fine...

Rob6868
Rob6868
in reply to Madeira19

No not had the opportunity

But I often get muscle spasms all over my body.They may well be magnesium deficency

I had to stop statins because they gave me the symptoms of polymyalga I don’t think I’ve spelt that right anyway they tested me for it and I didn’t have it said come off the statins for a couple of weeks I did and the muscle pain went away so now I no longer take statins I should talk to your dr about this if I were you or maybe come of statins for a couple of weeks and see if it helps then see your dr my dr new I was coming off but you might like to talk to the dr first hope this is of some help

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