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Hi guys

Easy one for you this time

Magnesium yes or no ?

I saw my cardiologist for the first time friday he asked what meds I was taking so I told him and mentioned I was taking magnesium and he told me to stop taking it as they dont recommend it does anyone know why he would say that

I thought it a bit strange him saying that

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Philc345 profile image
Philc345

I did he just said they dont recommend it and changed the subject

marypw profile image
marypw

No idea. It's highly recommended by Dr Sanjay Gupta - York Cardiology (I've just been watching his video on YouTube about magnesium - I recommend if you haven't seen any of them).

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Philc345 in reply to marypw

Thanks for the reply

I watched his video last week that why I cant understand why my cardiologist said to stop it

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seasider18 in reply to marypw

Sanjay makes money from the sales of it.

My EP said it is an interesting subject but not enough studies have been made on it for a scientific conclusion and it will be a long time before there is.

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MilkfairyHeart Star in reply to seasider18

Some of Sanjay Gupta's information on his YouTube video's in particular Microvascular and Vasospastic angina is inaccurate.

I asked him to make corrections supported by the appropriate references still waiting for him to update .....

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MichaelJHHeart Star

I believe magnesium can interact with blood pressure medication causing it (BP) to go too low.

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Philc345

Ahh that could be it then

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tamariki

Potassium is a much more important chemical for heart benefit. I take four potassium tablets a days, since I had a heart attack.

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Blackout1 in reply to tamariki

You need to avoid too much potassium-rich food (like bananas, avocados and green leafy veg) if you are on certain medication apparently, including some heart tablets. Best check this out for your own individual tablets before deciding. It’s a nightmare trying to work out what you can eat to stay healthy when on meds...

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fergusthegreat

Magnesium supplements can interact with some calcium channel blockers causing blood pressure to drop to low. Then can also interfere with blood clotting medication reducing there effectiveness.

Also, most supplements are pretty useless as most of the content is excreted in the urine.

You are much better off get your magnesium from food sources such as green leafy vegetables, seafood and legumes.

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Amikatari in reply to fergusthegreat

That makes sense. I'm on a calcium channel blocker for another condition, and when I tried a magnesium supplement a few years ago I felt wiped out for days. I haven't taken one since. From what you've said, it probably made my already low blood pressure drop even further!

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DebbiB28

I don't have the scientific answers but after being plagued by palpitations I thought they would be better after OHS. They weren't and read in another group that magnesium could help. All I can say is that they are now much improved - coincidence? I don't know, but seem to work for me.

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HectorandBoris in reply to DebbiB28

Same here with palpitations. Much improved after starting magnesium.

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Nicky3

Hi,

I asked my Cardiologist just last week about magnesium and other supplements. He said looking at my medications it’s ok to try and let him know if it makes any difference he was happy for me to have a go.

Therefore, good idea to find out if you take anything that could interact. My chemist is very good at discussing things like that speak to yours they are highly trained too.

Good luck

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Cober

HI

I was already taking magnesium and B6 for help with irritable legs and then had AF I asked both the cardiology nurses and cardiologist and was told not a problem.

However I should add I am not on any other meds

Xxxx

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Russ65

My cardiac specialist told me to start magnesium. Very odd.

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NathanBlau in reply to Russ65

Why is it odd? We all have different cardiac conditions and individual drug regimes so you would not expect a 'one size fits all'??

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Russ65 in reply to NathanBlau

If you'd read the above comments you'd understand why I said "odd". As it seems that there is a a bit of a debating point regarding whether to take it or not. It was only a general statement dude.

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NathanBlau in reply to Russ65

mine too - dude

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Londinium

If chronically ill, certain nutritional supplements can help improve your condition, especially if your nutrient levels are low or not optimal. Over on the Thyroid UK forum, a lot more is known about such things because so many of the 100,000 plus members have been badly let down by their medics who demonstrated so little in the way of knowledge, interest or expertise.

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mistymolly

Hard to know what to do unfortunately

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Madeira19

If any excess magnesium is expelled from the body, then surely this can't interfere with medication. Unless he has said not to eat any foods containing magnesium also (like some people are told not to eat grapefruit as it interferes with the effectiveness of their medication) then it seems he's just wanting to stick to the pharmaceutical side of treatment as a majority of doctors dismiss any natural remedies...apart from the cardiologist already mentioned on YouTube, he's a breath of fresh air!

Have you noticed any benefit from magnesium, and have you sourced the most effective form of it?

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NathanBlau in reply to Madeira19

Feel free to follow the guidance of a man with a product to sell :)

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Madeira19 in reply to NathanBlau

Ah yes, thanks for your reply , I'm wise to all that!! I get most of my info from medical journals and scientific reports, not with any link to selling anything.

True that the health food shops are stacked with all sorts that will have no substantial effect and cost the earth😕

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Catwumman

I asked my GP last week if it was ok to take my Magnesium & Omega 3 Fish Oil supplements & she said yes. I am on all the usual meds.

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NathanBlau

Sure there is but with no proven benefits for those who do not have a magnesium deficiency.

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seasider18

Obviously not !!!!!!!!!!!! However he does say that he gets a commission on the ones sold via his web site.

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seasider18

The miniscule adds up over time as they say in Scotland " Many a mickle mak's a muckle "

The greater part of his motivation is presumably to get patients to go to him and his lectures.

Which drugs are the GP's getting kickbacks from ? They are paid for annual check for diabetics etc. They get £250 a year for them and a nurse does the work. At my previous GP there was always a follow up with the doctor but never with my present one.

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Bicyclist

Thanks for the links, looks good, I've downloaded to read it all later, it's common sense talking in the articles from what I've read so far.

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sos007

Doctors are not trained in nutrition or vitamins.

Here's a link to foods that are highest in magnesium:

medicalnewstoday.com/articl...

If you routinely eat these foods every day or every week, then you probably don't need the supplement. However, if you do not, take the supplement as directed.

Consider seeing a functional or naturopathic doctor for more dietary guidance.

You can also see a dietitian, but I have found from my experience that their knowledge base is behind the science. They're still recommending low-fat diets when evidence has shown that it is sugar/carbs that cause heart disease and not the fat.

Here's a medical fact sheet on magnesium:

ods.od.nih.gov/factsheets/M...

It clearly states the importance of magnesium for cardiac health.

Good luck.

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seasider18

You have done the work and I'm sure many others would like the benefit of it.

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nymima01

My mother has heart problems and magnesium is prescribed by her cardio as part of her treatment with him.

ss017 profile image
ss017

I also am interested in taking Magnesium. How long will it take to notice the benefits from taking Magnesium & at what dose?

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Wellagain2

I was recommended adding magnesium salts to bath as tablet supplements can be problematic. I love a bath soak for 20 minutes several times a week but I know a lot of folk now only have showers.

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BibbyA

I was told by a cardiac nurse many years ago that when someone goes into hospital with an MI they are immediately put on a magnesium drip. I have been on 2000 magnesium citrate for many years and the first improvement was I enjoyed a really good night's sleep and have continued to ever since. A guide to taking too much is very loose stools. I have permanent AF and mag helps calm that. I also have ischemic cardiomyopathy and I am on complex meds, and my cardio consultant said I would be fine taking it. Check out Dr Caroline Dean, The Magnesium miracle. And any info you can find then you can make an informed choice, best wishes.

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BibbyA in reply to BibbyA

Sorry that should read 400 mg not 2000 sorry for the error.

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