It's been a fair while since I last updated - longer than I'd have liked - but in a way its a good thing as I actually have a fair bit to update on as a result...
The additional heart tests involving tracers, a CT scan and an hour long MRI which really tested my lung capacity with one or two of the hold the breath sections, are now all complete and the transplant team have been in touch to say that they will be reviewing my case at one of their MDTs in the weeks after Easter and will call me before the end of the month with their recommendation.
They didn't say anything about the heart scans so I'm hoping that it means that they didn't find anything untoward or serious otherwise they'd surely already have looked to bring me in for further tests, right? In the meantime, I had a video consultation with the respiratory team at the hospital I'm under to try and get a bit more info about the future and what that might look like and when if I don't pursue the transplant.
Unsurprisingly they were fairly non-committal in terms of timescales but reiterated that based on the current rate of decline which has been fairly steady, I'm looking at about 5 years or so before I'm at less than a third in terms of lung capacity and oxygen transfer rate. At this time they'd expect me to require some form of oxygen therapy but were at pains to say that every case is different and that prognosis beyond that is very difficult to say as some people can - as many on here have and continue to demonstrate - live for a long time once on oxygen therapy whereas others can unfortunately fade quite quickly depending upon how fortunate they are/aren't in regards to infections etc.
While the call didn't tell me anything I didn't already know or give me any concrete answers, it did bring me some unexpected reason for greater encouragement in the form of a new drug that I can try taking called nintedanib. Many of you, I'm sure, will have heard of it already and possibly even been part of the clinical trials. It's an anti-fibrotic which can slow down the disease progression by as much as 50% in some cases.
Nintedanib recently received Nice approval and is now available to ALL IPF and ILD patients provided that they meet the criteria. There are potential side effects - principally diarrhoea and less commonly liver damage - and it's never been used for PPFE but if it has any success at all in slowing down the rate of my lung disease then I think it's got to be worth a shot. They're going to get me started next month and have liaised with my GP surgery to organise monthly blood tests for three months which will then become quarterly blood tests to monitor my liver function to make sure that the drug isn't having an adverse affect.
I'm delighted to have the opportunity to try something that might slow down the disease progression and by me some more time whether that be prior to a lung transplant if that's what I decide to do. Even if I don't go for the transplant, it will hopefully keep my lungs going longer than previously anticipated.
Of course, it might not work so we shouldn't get too carried away but it shows that there is progress being made in terms of research even with limited funding. If Asthma & Lung UK are successful in their efforts to get industry to commit to further funding over the next few years then there's no telling where we could go in the future. I was at a launch event recently where a Professor talked to me about all sorts of therapies they were considering which they believe could be game changers in the future.
However, in the short term I think it's really important to push your treatment team on options that might be available. I only found out about nintedanib and got on the list because I kept pushing on what treatments might be available. If I hadn't asked then I wouldn't have even known it was a possibility. It was the same with doxycycline which I pushed for as a base level protection during the winter months to help reduce my chances of picking up a cold. I only got back on it in December (after two chest infections in as many months) and it helped me get through until the end of March when I have to come off it without any further infections.
Ironically, I've now picked up a chest infection since coming off of the doxycycline but I got on the Co-Amoxiclav quickly and I think I'm already beginning to nip it in the bud which is a good thing.
The other thing that's happened since I was last in touch is that my wife contracted COVID. She's fully over it now and having self-isolated early managed to avoid passing it on to me which is fantastic. Fingers crossed I continue to remain COVID free despite everyone bar those of us who are clinically vulnerably seemingly having given up on testing, wearing masks or taking any kind of precautions. It's as if it never happened now which is scary but not much we can do about it I guess.
That more or less is everything I had to update on. The only other thing I wanted to say is thank you for tagging me in a post from a fellow PPFEr. I've just left a message with them and will look to support in any way that I can.
I really hope everyone is doing ok and I'll update you all once I know what the recommendation(s) is/are from the transplant team. Big decisions are on the horizon but in the meantime I'm going to do my best to enjoy life starting with an Easter break in Devon with the family.
Cheers,
Andy
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dodgylungrunner
British Lung Foundation
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Thank you for updating us all and it all sounds pretty positive to me. Hoping the Nintedanib works well for you and willing you to stay covid free. Thank goodness you’re wife has recovered.
Brilliant news for you and many others by the sound of things. I hope all goes well with the transplant team and the new medication. Have a wonderful time in Devon . Have a good night and take care 😊 Bernadette and Jack 🐕 xxxxxx 🌻🌻
Wow…. Well, I asked my consultant years ago if I could be on Nintenadib but he said NICE had not agreed it for Obliterative Bronchiolitis. It is tricky as I know that my condition is fibrotic but it presents as an obstructive lung disease. Hmmm… Problematic. My con said that lung chaps only use the term ‘fibrotic’ to describe ILDs. Maybe I should try again? I have read a paper that characterised OB as ‘Bronchiolarcentric pulmonary fibrosis. But to persuade them is an uphill task.
You have such a realistic and rational outlook Andy which can't be easy at times. I'm glad that you will be getting the Nintenadib and I hope you get some benefit from it. Good to know that your wife recovered fully from covid and great that you didn't pick it up.
As you await the outcome of the MDT meeting I hope that you have a lovely break in Devon.
Hi dodgylungrunner - Thank you so much for your update.
I have to say I continue to be impressed by your approach to an incredibly challenging set f circumstances.
I was offered Nintedanib at the point of my formal diagnosis, due to my "surprisingly poor lung function", in the face of my activity levels. I had already decided I would take any treatment offered, even though it has not been established my disease is in an actively progressing phase. Frankly, I just want to take all chances available to me to maintain my wellbeing.
Thus far, six months in, I am tolerating it extremely well. I've had the odd queasy hour or so, and initially I was better friends with the loo, but nothing approaching diarrhoea.
I have had blood draws monthly for the 6 months, and about to extend the intervening periods. I'm pleased to say my liver remains in great shape.
I just hope it's doing what we hope!
One thing I will say is Nintedanib can have lots of unwanted interactions with other drugs - including many antibiotics. With the antibiotics the issue is mainly a much increased chance of extreme gastric upset, rather than hepatotoxicity. Many painkillers, such as NSAIDS are also to be avoided, so best to be mindful of that. I feel certain your clinic will be crystal clear on that, but perhaps your GP mightn't be quite so clear, although my clinic letter, post-initiation, did outline it to my GP.
I recently pulled a muscle in my abdomen (Honestly, don't ask how!) and found my pain relief options to be Paracetamol or Cocodamol; neither of which I would be keen on.
I do hope you get along with Nintedanib. We all need and deserve to be living our best lives.
Thank you for updating us. That all sounds very positive and I really hope the Nintedanib works well for you. Have a lovely and well-deserved holiday with your family x 😎🌞
So pleased to read your update and know that you have at least one new option to take up. I was sorry to hear your wife had COVID and hope she has no lasting effects from it. It must have been hard for her to isolate but it meant you didn't get it so was obviously worth it.
Best wishes to you both as you move forward with treatment and consultations.
So pleased to hear everything is looking promising and really hope the Nintedanib works well for you. Good that you were a little pushy to get on it, think we have to be nowadays. Enjoy your holiday in Devon, I am sure it will be the tonic your wife needs after recovering from covid x
H Andy. Many thanks for your newsy update. Great to hear that you are getting the Nintedanib and that you will tolerate it well. Look forward to hearing your news on the transplant MDT. Have a great Easter weekend and hope the weather is good to you all xxx
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