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Which comes first? Poor Diet or Depression? ๐Ÿค”๐Ÿงโค๏ธโ˜€๏ธโ˜ฎ๏ธโ˜ฏ๏ธ๐ŸŒป๐Ÿง˜๐Ÿปโ€โ™€๏ธ๐ŸŒˆ๐Ÿ™

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According to Harvard Health Medical School Publishing, adopting a healthy diet can lower the risk of developing depressive symptoms. One could argue that being depressed makes us more likely to eat unhealthy foods. This is true as a consequence. Fortunately, researchers have addressed this question by looking at baseline diet and then calculating the risk of study volunteers going on to develop depression. They found that a healthy diet such as Mediterranean diet containing healthy fats and healthy carbs can lower this risk.

According to Dr. Eva Selhub, your brain works hard 24/7 taking care of your thoughts and movements, your breathing and heartbeat, your senses even while youโ€™re asleep. Your brain requires a constant supply of โ€œfuelโ€ from the foods you eat and whatโ€™s in that fuel makes all the difference. Whichever you eat directly affects the structure and function of your brain and, ultimately, your mood. Diets high in refined sugars are harmful to the brain. In addition to worsening your bodyโ€™s regulation of insulin, they also promote inflammation and oxidative stress. Multiple studies have found a correlation between a diet high in refined sugars and impaired brain function โ€” and even a worsening of symptoms of mood disorders, such as depression. It makes sense. If your brain is deprived of good-quality nutrition, or if free radicals or damaging inflammatory cells are circulating within the brainโ€™s enclosed space, further contributing to brain tissue injury, consequences are to be expected.

Today, fortunately, the burgeoning field of nutritional psychiatry is finding there are many consequences and correlations between not only what you eat, how you feel, and how you ultimately behave, but also the kinds of bacteria that live in your gut. Serotonin is a neurotransmitter that helps regulate sleep and appetite, mediate moods, and inhibit pain. Since about 95% of your serotonin is produced in your gastrointestinal tract, and your gastrointestinal tract is lined with a hundred million nerve cells, or neurons, it makes sense that the inner workings of your digestive system donโ€™t just help you digest food, but also guide your emotions. Whatโ€™s more, the function of these neurons โ€” and the production of neurotransmitters like serotonin โ€” is highly influenced by the billions of โ€œgoodโ€ bacteria that make up your intestinal microbiome. These bacteria play an essential role in your health. They protect the lining of your intestines and ensure they provide a strong barrier against toxins and โ€œbadโ€ bacteria; they limit inflammation; they improve how well you absorb nutrients from your food; and they activate neural pathways that travel directly between the gut and the brain. Studies have compared โ€œtraditionalโ€ diets, like Mediterranean diet and the traditional Japanese diet, to a typical โ€œWesternโ€ diet and have shown that the risk of depression is 25% to 35% lower in those who eat a traditional diet. Scientists account for this difference because these traditional diets tend to be high in vegetables, fruits, unprocessed grains, and fish and seafood, and to contain only modest amounts of lean meats and dairy. They are also void of processed and refined foods and sugars, which are staples of the โ€œWesternโ€ dietary pattern. In addition, many of these unprocessed foods are fermented, and therefore act as natural probiotics. This may sound implausible to you, but the notion that good bacteria not only influence what your gut digests and absorbs, but that they also affect the degree of inflammation throughout your body, as well as your mood and energy level, is gaining traction among researchers.

The gist of it is, eat plants, and lots of them, including fruits and veggies, whole grains (in unprocessed form, ideally), seeds and nuts, with some lean proteins like fish and yogurt. Avoid things made with added sugars or flours (like breads, baked goods, cereals, and pastas), and minimize animal fats, processed meats (sausage, bacon), and butter. Occasional intake of these โ€œbadโ€ foods is probably fine; remember, everything in moderation. And, for those who are trying to lose weight, you canโ€™t go wrong with colorful fruits and veggies. No one got fat eating berries or broccoli. Quality matters over quantity. And when it comes to what we eat, quality really, really matters. Start paying attention to how eating different foods makes you feel โ€” not just in the moment, but the next day. Try eating a โ€œcleanโ€ diet for two to three weeks โ€” that means cutting out all processed foods and sugar. See how you feel. Then slowly introduce foods back into your diet, one by one, and see how you feel. When some people โ€œgo clean,โ€ they cannot believe how much better they feel both physically and emotionally, and how much worse they then feel when they reintroduce the foods that are known to enhance inflammation. Many of us have struggled with poor diet and depression and it certainly can be a downward spiral without a correction. Good healthy eating and learning to love yourself is a smart start. โค๏ธ

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Spot on, diet has a huge part to play on our body as a whole and it makes perfect sense that a poor diet lacking in nutrients will affect your mood.

You feed your body with nutrients then you'll perform well ie. you'll be able to exercise which will, in turn, exercise the brain. If you eat badly your performance will be greatly affected.

Good one KoKo.

Alicia๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ˜Š๐Ÿ’œ๐Ÿ’ž๐Ÿ’œ๐Ÿ’ž๐Ÿ’ž๐Ÿ’“๐Ÿ’– xxxx

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Thank you Alicia. We have to treat our body as a whole. Diet plays more than 80 percent of our wellness. When your body feels good, you will have more energy to exercise and work efficiently. I think Food intake awareness is mandatory for anxiety and depression, not only in vegan or healthy eating communities. โค๏ธโค๏ธโค๏ธ๐ŸŒป๐ŸŒบ๐ŸŒป๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒˆ๐Ÿ™xxxx

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We certainly do and treat it with respect. To enjoy life we need the right fuel. Yes food intake awareness is mandatory for all, there's so much junk food out there which isn't good at all, in fact, very sad.๐Ÿ’“๐Ÿ’ž๐Ÿ’œ๐Ÿ’œ๐Ÿ’œ๐ŸŒž๐Ÿ™๐Ÿ™๐ŸŒผ๐ŸŒผ๐ŸŒธ๐ŸŒธ xxxx

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Yes, Alicia. Our body is our temple, we need to treat with utmost respectโค๏ธ. It is very sad to see all these junks everywhere. Look at TV commercials go off every minute advertising toxic food. For instance, in USA, Burger King commercial is on at all time and whoโ€™s in the right mind getting dress and go out n devour it?! ๐Ÿ˜ฒ๐Ÿ˜ฒ๐Ÿ˜ฒ.

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We certainly do, it's important to look after ourselves.

We constantly get Just Eat adverts here which is fast food takeaway and Macdonald's- yuck๐Ÿ˜“๐Ÿ˜“

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Oh gosssh McDonald unleashed over there too?!๐Ÿคฏ๐Ÿ˜ก How many โ€œBa da ba da ba Iโ€™m loving it...โ€ to destroy peopleโ€™ health ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™€๏ธ๐Ÿคฆโ€โ™€๏ธ๐Ÿคฆโ€โ™€๏ธ

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Oh yes, we've had it for years. I despise fast food, so bad for you.๐Ÿ˜ก๐Ÿ˜ก๐Ÿ™๐Ÿ™โ˜น

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Me too ๐Ÿ˜ก๐Ÿ˜ก. They would never have a penny from Koko ๐Ÿ™…โ€โ™€๏ธ. Besides the convenience, Is it because of the cost also? Over here, I donโ€™t think itโ€™s even cheap ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™€๏ธ.

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Same here, awful stuff, how can they call it food. It's quite cheap here but still costs more than cooking your own meals๐Ÿ˜ก๐Ÿ˜ก

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Thatโ€™s right, people can adopt simple cooking and train their taste buds again to have better health, mind and body. Letโ€™s make some significant changes starting from each individual๐Ÿ‘โค๏ธโค๏ธโค๏ธ๐ŸŒป๐ŸŒบ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒˆxxxx

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Yesit doesn't have to be complicated and so much tastier when you make it yourself.

I really hope things do change.๐Ÿ’œ๐Ÿ’œ๐Ÿ’ž๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’œ๐Ÿ’ž๐Ÿ’“๐Ÿ’“ xxxx

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Yes my gut tells me I eat unhealthy... And my brain...... And my tastebuds..... And my eating habits..... And.......

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Good morning GB2, what did u have for breakfast? ๐Ÿ˜‚

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Cheerios... With sugar๐Ÿ˜”๐Ÿ˜”๐Ÿ˜”

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Okay, whatโ€™s done is done โœ…. What r u gonna do? ๐Ÿง๐Ÿ˜…

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Go jogging๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜

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Where do you jog? Itโ€™s raining cats n dogs over here right now ๐Ÿ˜…

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Living room๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚Yeah it's been cold and rainy here too. Last week it was in 70s and 80s. Now it's been in the 50s. I have a stationary bike too.๐Ÿ˜Ž๐Ÿ˜Ž๐Ÿ˜Ž

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๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿ˜‚How often do you hop on that stationary bike?

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I try every nite for 2 miles

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Ok hereโ€™s the bottom line GB2: โ€œTo lose weight and keep it off, follow the 80% nutrition, 20% exercise rule. Creating a caloric deficit and speeding up your metabolism through exercise, can help you be successful on your weight loss journey.โ€

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I just got my consumption of sugar down to 80% and 20% fiber. Sticky situation.๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚

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Oh goshhhh dat means u have to repeat a lot of mantras in front of the mirror! ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿ˜…

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It's not a pretty sight.๐Ÿ˜ณ๐Ÿ˜ณ๐Ÿ˜ณ

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Either make a significant change or up your meds or mantrasโ˜๏ธ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿ˜…

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Not the meds please.๐Ÿค”๐Ÿค”

You are what you eat.๐Ÿ‘โœŒ๏ธ

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Good morning Mr. Tao โ˜€๏ธ๐Ÿ˜ƒ. Whatsoever u said is trueโ˜๏ธ๐Ÿ™. Itโ€™s not what you eat, whatโ€™s eating you? ๐Ÿ˜…

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Good morning Koko. It can go either way ๐Ÿ˜Š

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We like going either way Mr. Tao ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ˜‡

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๐Ÿ˜ฒ๐Ÿ˜ฒ๐Ÿ˜ฒ

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As with The Tao.. it's about balance. Hence the term " Balanced diet"

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Yes Mr. Tao, balance is a must๐Ÿ‘. The moment that scale is shifted, we start feeling the chaos ๐Ÿ˜…

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True dat!๐Ÿ˜€๐Ÿ‘

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Yayyy Mr. Tao agreed ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ‘. Now what did you have for breakfast? ๐Ÿ˜‹๐Ÿค—

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Uhhhhh... Guilty of not practicing what I preach today.Bowl of Rice Chex, English Muffin ( buttered) and a cup of dark roast " pour over" coffee with almond milk...

I can just hear all the groaning going on now...๐Ÿคซ๐Ÿคซ๐Ÿคซ๐Ÿคซ๐Ÿ˜›

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No judgment from me. ๐Ÿ˜‚ What would Lao Zhu say? Daz what matters ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™€๏ธ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ™

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Oh sure, GUILT trip me! LOL Lao Tzu dosen't judge.He leaves us to make our own choices and live with the results...My breakfast was balanced. I balanced my ceral in one hand and the coffee and muffin in the other hand.๐Ÿ˜‰๐Ÿ˜‰๐Ÿ˜€๐Ÿ˜˜

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Guilt wonโ€™t play any effect on any truth seekers ๐Ÿ™…โ€โ™€๏ธ We are raising our awareness through Eastern philosophy. โ˜ฏ๏ธ๐Ÿ™โค๏ธ

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No argument there. ๐Ÿ‘โœŒ๏ธ

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๐Ÿ˜ฒ๐Ÿ˜…๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ™โœŒ๏ธ

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๐Ÿ˜

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I always make people think to get rid of that thinking ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ™๐Ÿค—

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Of course you do! ๐Ÿ‘โœŒ๏ธ๐Ÿ˜†

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๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ™โœŒ๏ธ

Thank you Foreverlost2, I like gathering all valuable literature for us to understand and create a wonderful path for ourselves. ๐Ÿ™

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Checking over your grub habits is well worth doing. For what it's worth, canteloupe helps a LOT with anxiety, much more than anything else I've found. The taste of it is so-so to me but the results make it well worth having a wedge or two of it a day so I highly recommend it to anyone out there with GAD or other anxiety disorders.

That said, the title of this thread may be a bit misleading. It implies that mental illness is caused mostly or entirely by bad diet which isn't so. For most of us in here, the problem has a far different root cause, whether traumatic shock, long term stress, innate biochemical disorders from birth, etc. Frozen pizza, fries and M&M's all day is guaranteed to make it worse, but a change of diet won't entirely cure it.

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Thank you for suggesting cantaloupe. I always say fruits are candies from God. ๐Ÿ˜‡Any colorful fruits and veggies are great for our body. As the title, it is a raised question and as you read, itโ€™s said thatโ€ adopting a healthy diet can lower the risk of developing depressive symptoms.โ€ Not a cure for sure, and I ended my post with โ€œGood healthy eating and learning to love yourself is a smart start.โ€๐Ÿ™

Thank you. You have a wonderful day ahead โ˜€๏ธ๐ŸŒปโค๏ธ๐ŸŒˆ๐Ÿ™

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Yeah for sure. The brain gut connection is the real deal. I remember the times when I was depressed my GI tract wasn't really functioning that well. I felt awful. That's a really tough question to answer which comes first?

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Donโ€™t think literally within the box. ๐Ÿ˜‚ I already gave the answer ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿ˜‚. By changing to healthy eating habit can lower the risk of developing depression symptoms. ๐Ÿ‘

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sure it does sound good, but there are just too many variables to isolate. You can't just isolate diet

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Kainan ๐Ÿคฆโ€โ™€๏ธ This whole world is seeking for these variables, Koko is just a speck in this universe telling you, stop with the junks and that will help more or less. ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿ˜‚

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sure. but I could also eat nothing but oreos and still lose weight. I would only limit my intake so I would be in a caloric deficit

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Where's Hb2003

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Thereโ€™s visceral fat vs subcutaneous fat. ๐Ÿ˜‚

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I have a lot of the first one right now ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚ It doesn't feel all that great. I really let myself go this past year

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Subcutaneous fat is just some jiggly more to love ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿ˜‚ but sugar will increase visceral fat which is lethalโ˜๏ธ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿ˜…

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Yes and it's necessary for energy storage and insulation. Visceral fat is largely unnecessary

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A person can look so fit , run on a treadmill and drop dead because of the built up of visceral fat forming plague in their arteries.

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And that's something that you just can't see or know for sure. It's in the peritoneum the abdominal cavity. That's scary

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Daz why they go by your bad cholesterol LDL level as a warning.

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A lot of us want to blame lots of diseases; cancers, diabetes, etc on their genetics. I'm not ruling out genetics but the more we learn about these diseases the more we see how crucial diet is. It cannot be underestimated. If you continually eat these foods you are opening the door to all these physical diseases , and the more science is learning now, it's also mental diseases. It makes logical sense. Body and mind arent seperate. These junk foods not only need to be avoided by people with physical ailments, but also with mental ailments like anxiety and depression. We have to stop feeding these diseases.๐Ÿ™๐Ÿป

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Hmmmmm, what would Osho say on this topic? ๐Ÿค”Oh yes he didโ˜๏ธIsnโ€™t he great, he covered them all ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™€๏ธ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ‘Œ๐Ÿ™

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