ok. so..im new to this app..im not really sure what this is about but im looking for some support mechanisms for my anxiety & depression & if there is anyone who needs to talk im here also..
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hi Noelle, I am also new to this sit, looking for ways to cope wihmy depression. I sleep a lot. No medication has been successful.
Tried ALL the different behavior health meds in the past couple of years. It Takes A Village! Still no answer there.
Therapist said the answer is within me. I have to do the work. No magic pill!
Recuse Remedy helps me a lot. 2 Psychs have said it's safe. I like the spray the best. Takes 15-20 min. like all "meds". Meanwhile I'm breathing and tapping and can feel myself loosening up and slowing down.
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I agree with you - unless you can find a medication, or some psychology help the outlook is bleak if nothing works. Guess there is a tendency to overlook how vitamin mineral and certain proteins and enzymes help metabolise our body brain, heart and liver. When a therapist says after years "the answer is within you," you feel how on earth can I not know what is troubling me and how to adjust to it. If you know you have so many factors which can affect your mood concerning stress and relationships you want to know how to overcome these so you can go forward. Am sure you can pinpoint some things in your life which are blocking your progress. If you haven't had other tests on iron and vitamin deficiencies or thyroid, and diabetes, then you could have them done to cross these off the list. Autoimmune disease can give rise to mental and physical health symptoms, but no one has ever suggested this.
Hope you can have medical checks to find out if you have any problems as even iron vitamin D deficiency can give rise to associated symptoms of depression and anxiety.
marheart in reply to
Right on! Medical issues are making the anxiety so much worse.
Cancer, overgrown hernia that no Dr. thinks could be removed safely, etc. Anxiety leads the train for all these, and more, for this elderly person.
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That is awful about the op. Cancer is enough to deal with without your hernia.
Are you having chemo or radiotherapy? Have you any support from nurses and other websites which have folk in the same position? I had a nasty skin cancer but was lucky to have it removed after several years of asking for checks. I put myself on a diet to build my immune system, which has helped. Certain foods are recommended such as savoy cabbage, which is recommended for use during and after radiation therapy. It can be cooked. Certain foods such as tomatoes, and celery, can help prevent cancer. Have you lost weight? Vitamin D supplements such as cod liver oil gels, and D3 tablets the sunshine vitamins can help. You could ask to have your vitamins and minerals such as B12, B9.B6. B5. vitamin C, and D.
Zinc selenium copper, magnesium phosphorus, potassium and sodium are some of the checks you might find helpful. If they are lower than normal you need every help you can get to help your immune system.
marheart in reply to
Thanks for advice. Oncologist said I can eat whatever I want to eat as long as I get enough protein foods. They look good and I know I have to eat, so I eat.
Ultra, ultra sensitive body to meds. Taking Chemo pills all the way down to a child's dose and only every other day so I don't get even more sick from the chemo.
I hope others read your advice while they are able to improve with those ideas.
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Whatever you like means you can eat sugar. Cancer feeds on sugar. By changing your diet to eat the protein you enjoy, and cut out the sugars in carbs such as grains wheat rye barley rice and maize and having a certain amount of fruit such as blueberries raspberries, and strawberries may cut down your sugar intake, and help you metabolism. I guess you are fed up with dietary restrictions - though your specialist is saying you can eat mars bars for every meal ha!
marheart in reply to
I'm only fed up with the foods because I have others cooking for me, their way, not my way. Food delivered is Very expensive so I do what I have to do and eat by defrosting their much appreciated efforts to make sure I have food to eat. I pay for groceries they order, they cook and I eat. Good deal!
I'm at the age and stage where I don't crave chocolates and sugars.
5 yrs ago I took off 94 lbs. Fat me became used to healthier eating and never looked back.
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That's amazing - I need to lose another stone but have lost over two stone and kept It down - it's a shame you can't choose your own food, but at least you can staya t home. My dad was in his 90.s living at home. He did well on his own.
marheart in reply to
Any suggestions for breakfast? My son has been making egg casserole with bacon for that AM meal.
Seeking ways to get more efficient protein and less fatty bacon.
Breakfast is the most difficult meal for me. The anxiety kicks into high gear. Being able to defrost a rectangle of casserole the night before and have it waiting in refrig. to be heated is the easiest way I know of to convince myself to just do it--eat it!
Almost every night I defrost the boiled chicken they mostly make for my dinners.
Lunch I can eat one of those dinners or wing it with extra groceries I ordered over the weekend for that mid day meal. I'm grateful for that amount of flexibility.
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Your son makes a good brekky. I have porridge made with Scots oats, made with water. I put some coconut oil, about a teaspoon mixed with a teaspoon of honey.
I would have the scrambled egg after the porridge for the protein.
I don't eat smoked bacon, as it is a bit like smoking with smoked foods.
When you wake up after a night sleep, you might get out of bed too quickly, and this can make you feel shaky. If you sit up, in bed slowly, and get out of bed slowly, standing up, then your circulation to the head will not suddenly be drained.
When you go to bed at night, if you have a snack with protein such as crackers and a bit of cheese, an egg sandwich, with some milky cocoa, it can help you sleep
as it contains a precursor to sleep (tryptophan) helping the level of hormones serotonin and melatonin which help your anxiety levels.
This food will sustain you through the night, You may wake up feeling rested rather than anxious. Do you take your medication with your food, as may be if you take the propranolol as you wake up it might affect your system? I always take any medication with or after food despite the labels on the box. Hope this might help. Let me know if it does or if it's a pile of rubbish!
marheart in reply to
Advice given from experience, love and caring is always appreciated.
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Tell me if you want any other suggestions for breakfast. I am lactase free but
if you are not bothered use milk as it has protein and vitamins, a complete meal in itself. I like melon as it is good for my weight. I might have a couple of apples for breakfast. I snack on salt free crisps smiths -as I don't eat grains. I eat plain chocolate just a small bit as it contains zinc and copper which is needed for the immune system. I use fish paste or meat paste to increase iodine, which helps the thyroid as does eating fish. It must be difficult with eating per cooked food from the freezer but some box convenience food such as Birds Eye fish cod, or haddock can be easy to bake in the oven.
marheart in reply to
Searching for protein packed breakfast that I can just heat and eat. All those other ideas are logical, just not for me to handle all that preparation.
Breakfast has always been the most difficult for me. I don't wake up hungry. Then anxiety kicks in as I force myself to eat.
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Suppose you like to have something hot in cold weather. Do you use a kettle or
a microwave?
Quick protein could be a slice of ham, turkey, beef, or cheese with a slice of toast or a tomato.
A fruit yoghurt 6 oz will give about 5 grams of protein.
You could make scrambled egg in microwave. If you don't like preparing
food, then having something instant such as hot chocolate, made with a jug
half full with milk. With chocolate mix, with added sugar, you have something you can have without much preparation.
If opening food packs is a problem then may be your son could help you, putting some ham and tomato on a small plate and covering it with a saucer and put in fridge. He could make a flask of hot chocolate for later in the day?
Those lovely bacon and egg breakfasts sound really delicious and must make your day start happily.
Cans and jars can be difficult to open so peel off seals with the food you like
to put in a pan, or eat cold, might be easier.
As you are getting protein from other meals throughout the day, then may be you need something with the combination of carbs and protein which can help ease anxiety. A ready made sandwich with a hot cup of tea coffee or chocolate might be
a quick breakfast. I would love a cheese scone or croissant with butter and marmalade or jam, for breakfast but cannot eat wheat
As you have cut out most other sugars from your diet may be you can treat yourself to something for a quick breakfast or snack during the day time. If you like peanut butter and savoury biscuits or other nuts, these contain protein. Broccoli is high in protein too. There are quick mix drinks which can be nourishing, and give instant
energy and protein with the milk. I live in the UK so expect food is different in your supermarkets. I like fresh fruit, banana, peach nectarine for breakfast with some orange juice or a glass of milk. As long as you have some food which is easy to digest and takes seconds to prepare, I would not be worried about the protein level of this first meal of the day as your specialist has said you can have any food combination a day. You may not need more than an ounce of protein a day to repair tissue, but those vitamins are in your meals in potatoes, green vegetables carrot and swede.
What foods do you like? Would you like a waffle with a slice of cheese?
I believe you need the company for breakfast, which helps anxiety levels.
marheart in reply to
Thank you for all the advice.
As a low income senior, I continue to think about the routine ways of eating. Variety usually helps me thru the tuff eating times, as long as I distract myself while eating.
My sons fiance makes chicken for me to eat after defrosting. Just boiled chicken, then I buy sauces to heat it up. Adding frozen veggies. Boring, but easy.
5 yrs ago I took off 94 lbs. Will never go back there again! So junk foods are not in my life. Neither is an interest in eating after having struggled to get it ready. Food delivery services are way too expensive.
Stock up and eat whatever catches my eyes has been my method of operation.
Learning to divide foods to make them easier to handle along with a walker has been a challenge. As you reminded me, it is easier without the struggle of large sized difficult to handle projects.
Everything old is new again must mean after childhood there is a maturing, then we become children again in our complicated world.
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I do understand how you have problems with juggling foods in your kitchen with a walker - I am a bit clumsy and sometimes have vertigo affecting my balance.
it is easy to drop an egg, or a cup of milk. You do what most people do make basic foods appetising. My cat joins in the fun creeping between my legs as I trip over her as I attempt to clean the floor. My husband has been cooking most days as I had an op on my hand and could not put my hand in water or move it, as it was so stiff. Even when my hand is ok I find jars and packets difficult to open. I swear it is a man's world - how could any man understand how difficult it is to get a vacuum jar lid off without using some sort of leverage. Then you get vacuum packed fish which you have to use scissors to cut. The smell of the fish, and the goo gets all over your hands and the scissors. We are pensioners living on a budget too. Guess we understand living within our means better than some of the younger generation.
So pleased you are able to cope with cooking. I bet your kitchen doesn't look as if the army has landed. Thank you for giving me some tips!
marheart in reply to
When some things fall on the floor, they stay there until my son visits on the weekend. I keep my body as close to the counters as possible in order to drop less.
I'm grateful for the Reverse Mortgage which allows me to stay in my home to be the independent woman I've always been. Extremely grateful for the Mortgage Broker who chipped in commissions to make it all come together for me.
I have a hernia the size of a child's football. Drs. in CALIF leave it up to the patient. The Pro and Con lists regarding surgery are equal.
So I can't get close enough to the counters some of the time. And I'm off balance with that heavy hernia below my waist.
Yikes, I always wanted to be perfect! Now I know perfect only lasts when it occurs, then life moves forward with new insights.
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My dad used to do the same, he would break a glass or a cup. We replaced mugs and plates with heat proof melamine. We bought a small kettle which was not too heavy. We lived a long way away so it was so difficult to keep an eye on him.
We managed by phone and online ordering of food and deliveries.
I am so sorry you have had trouble with the hernia. There are very few surgeons who know how to do an abdominal op without mesh, There have been so many problems over here with people with mesh ops. Even allergies to the mesh, are not considered by the surgeons. It is a mine field. it must be difficult working close to hard counters. There are body supports, to help keep the muscle tone. Do you find it takes you a long while to get dressed in the morning? That is stressful in itself. Try climbing into a bra, or doing the strap up with those hooks and eyes round your middle. I guess there a lot of mommas like myself with big tums who have to cook in kitchens which are not height adjusted. We have pendants or wrist bands with emergency calls made to relatives or key holders in case of a fall. These are expensive to run but they do help. You seem to have good balance which is an advantage.
marheart in reply to
Getting dressed in AM you ask? Ha! I wear my old fat woman pants and knit top to bed, then all day. Don't have anyone to impress with stylish clothing.
I'm so small busted that I don't have to bother with a bra. I'm grateful for those things I've worked out.
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That is so funny - and so human - I was thinking about your problem with tum getting too close to work surfaces. What we need is a padded apron and back pad
so if we touch the hard edge we don't do ourselves any damage. Have you ever fallen so you can't get u?. It happened when I was visiting my daughter and tripped over a cobble in front of the supermarket trolley stand. It took2 people to haul me up taking each arm with both their arms to get up. I felt so silly. They needed a crane ha! Now if do anything sitting down, I have to have a chair so I can kneel and get up using the chair to help steady me. They do home aids with a signal from a pendant to a main line phone which when you press the pendant or wrist can dial out automatically to someone so they can help.
marheart in reply to
The hernia problem has an even list of pros and cons. Medical providers leave surgery up to me. They won't suggest either way, unless emergency pain sets in.
Yes, I fell a couple of times which led to my using a walker to help with an imbalance. Can't add any weight with belts, straps etc or I'll be off balance.
Stressing out about next weeks Abdominal fluid reduction procedure. Had 9+ liters of fluid removed last Nov., friend drove me home, walked into house and fainted. Black eye has healed.
I think they removed too much at one time. Took 3 weeks to get appt. with conflicting scheduling blame games.
Thanks for listening. I go for counseling weekly. They are considering stopping the appointments since I'm getting worse and not improving. More stress. We all need a support system.
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Fluid is nasty. It can help having it removed.
marheart in reply to
The build up to waiting for the appt. is the worst anxiety. The procedure did not hurt, well not until I fainted.
Are you a medical professional? I'm grateful for your support. The Drs. I've asked for help, mentally run away from answers. They aren't trained in that arena.
Behavior health people aren't trained in the medical side. Lack of training and coordination has been a huge problem with all the problems that keep surfacing.
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No I'm not medical as a nurse or doctor, but had medical training when training to be a speech therapist, with problems with language speech, breathing, voice,
brain lesions, and mobility. I trained at the Royal Free Hospital.
I've also done a some of remedial courses in physical/massage and reflexology, and aromatherapy our of interest. As I have had cancer and had to have an op on my leg where I could not walk properly using a walking stick and a raised loo seat, I understand how problems with oedema can affect you. I am on a diuretic which helps my swelling round the abdomen. I have to say on reading round the subject
eating too much salt, and salty foods, crisps, bacon, some salty ham, biscuits and soups with too much salt, can worsen my oedema. I have also found a good website which looks good.
speedyremedies.com/how-to-r... naturally
Having been poorly like you I find it useful to help my immune system and
any information which can help, I read.
advice increase calcium 1200mg a day needed in milk and dairy.
increase magnesium 400mg a day needed -
eat plenty of watery fruit and vegetables
drink water throughout the day
drink or eat chopped parsley or celery. Celery soup is ace.
these are natural diuretics.
lower salty snacks and salt in foods.
Diuretics might help. They have helped me. I take moduretic which works well.
It is under licence to another brand company. Some drugs can affect your abdominal distension. As you have had this problem for a long while, I guess a diuretic might be prescribed as well as cutting down excess salt.
marheart in reply to
While preparing for 2 biopsies my breathing was out of control. They were whispering about bringing in the crash cart.
Anxiety went into panic and no one was trained to help me to get out of that spiral last March. They kept pushing BP meds and obviously I survived.
I take BP meds, Gleevec Chemo 40 mil every other day---this is smaller than even a child's dose. My ultra sensitive body doesn't accept usual and customary doses. This has been a road full of huge boulders!
Aging Is A Full Time Job!
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You are not the only one - with drug sensitivity. I have learned the hard way that taking drugs with foods helps me. Drugs on an empty stomach may give rise to symptoms which might be helped if the drug is taken with food, or directly after food. However if you are nauseous and can't keep the drug down - then sometimes Maxalon a drug is given to help the person relax. Anti emetics are important with chemo. So many people have side effects to treatment.
Glad you are adapting to your medication. Expect you have tests for proteinuria as this can cause oedema - too much albumin in the urine. Hypo proteinuria is when you have too much protein in the blood. I guess you have white coat syndrome - your blood pressure rises when you are in hospital or under stress. I have to have my tests done several times as it is the stress hormones that help raise your B.P.
The diuretics help lower the blood pressure by removing the excess fluid helping sodium and potassium levels, but other blood pressure drugs help the heart. You could always ask about albumin or protein levels in your blood as a different diet might be indicated.
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PS Is it cold? it is cold here. I like knitting - you sound cosy in your knit!
You are in the sunshine zone so guess you are not used to loads of rain.
Did you have your special breakfast today. Will chat tomorrow as or times are six hours ahead.
marheart in reply to
After about a year they finally were willing to use a better way to make the breakfast egg casserole. Cut into rectangles and freeze while wrapped in wax paper. Defrost 2 at a time in refrig. over night.
Portions are according to needs.
Casserole has eggs mixed with bacon and shredded cheese. Season to taste. Omit adding milk to omit a wet mess when unwrapping each portion after 1 min. in Micro Wave.
Would like to substitute another protein for the bacon. Eat boiled chicken at least 10 times/week for lunch and/or dinner. Ham isn't healthy and no grocery store here sells regular sliced turkey without preservatives, etc.
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You can find protein in broccoli, and nuts. The bacon might be ok if it is not cured and you have just one slice a day and it is lean. Eggs contain omega 6 fatty acids which can accelerate cancer cells. Foods with omega 3 fatty acids are better.
Cheese for some people contains high histamines like most red meats which can affect your digestion. Your sauces sound great but if there is gluten or something you might be intolerant to, this might affect your immune system.
As you are having a lot of protein with chicken just having a vegetable meal several times a week with broccoli and vegetables such as mushrooms contain protein vitamin D. There are articles and recommendations for the use of berries in the diet but Ribena is a high standard product and is made from blackcurrants, strawberries which have vitamin k and vitamin C which can help your metabolism. Guess you can get Ribena in the States with no added sugar. The company has been sold to another food and drinks company but the flavour is good.
Have you tried mashed carrots and swedes, or baked squash orangy colour cut into squares with a drizzle of olive oil can be cooked, frozen and reheated. As you don't like the preparation of foods foods which can be frozen, sugh a s vegetable, can be frozen for a change within your budget. Would it be cheaper to have several vegetable meals a week, as it would be cheaper than chicken?
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That's a shame - no dietary advice for you. At least you are having meals which are good to eat - though I guess you aren't hungry first thing in the morning.
We like boiled gammon which has no preservatives and is not smoked. I guess
as long as you drink a bit of extra water, you won't get a salt overload.
It's not drinking enough water during the day that can make you dehydrated but can see you are following their diet as advised. It is difficult to interpret blood tests results from a website - it is so impersonal not to have any feed back. How would anyone know if they had a deficiency or a problem with albuminuria or high protein unless these are specified with the normal ranges. You would have to have a urine test to see if you have high protein as this can sometimes be a sign of kidney problems, and can be treated according to the cause. Infection can cause it, as can type 1 or 2 diabetes, or kidney problems. It can be treated with diuretics which will help the fluid retention. Do you have regular checks ? If it were me I would want urine tests and a blood test to tell me if I had too much protein in my diet. I would want to know if I could be helped with medication rather than having the fluid removed. Can you go to a nurse to ask him/her?
Do you like fish pie, or fish such as salmon? I guess it is hard to ask for a change in diet - you must be starting to cluck! We often have vegetable meals such as cauliflower cheese which can be frozen put into portions in freezer bags or broccoli cheese which makes a good alternative. Think you are tremendous the way you look after yourself and cook the meals.
marheart in reply to
Actually I only warm up the meals that are made by my son and his fiance.
I carefully go out on the ledge to ask her for something. Cooperation does not exist so I keep my mouth shut.
For Lunch I'm on my own. I heat and eat as simple as possible.
The Scan showed hot spots from Kidney and I think Liver. Gastro Intestinal showed the Cancer.
Since they were wondering about getting the crash cart during the visit for a biopsy, I've avoided having the other tests done. Not good solution but the anxiety builds and builds daily when I remember that day when no one was trained to help me with breathing and talking. They pushed BP meds and finally sedated me for the procedure that discovered the Cancer.
marheart in reply to
My Drs. could take lessons from you!
Every visit to Oncologist starts with drawing blood. Dr. said he would tell me if there are any problem areas and the results are listed on the website.
It's definitely not for someone without a medical background.
Willing and able to make the changes. Will be taking meds with food starting now. Only advice I received was to take after a small meal.
I am with the largest health service provider in the Western USA.
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I'm only going by my own reactions, that is not to say that advice is not good from your medical team. It's just we sound similar with drug intolerances and how the drug gets into you system, and can affect your digestion or make you feel light headed. Expect there must be a website where you can ask an advisor for help with blood results. Thyroid unlocked is helpful for advising people about their thyroid hormone levels, and recommending vitamins and minerals and iron levels.
Guess you could ask your nurse for thyroid tests and if the results are on the website you could join thyroid unlocked uk. You can ask if someone on thyroid uk can advise you if your tests are within normal limits. If you haven't had thyroid or kidney/urine results in the last six months then may be you should request the tests. Will send a few links about foods which contain calming substances which can help anxiety levels. Potassium and sodium balance can be helped by eating bananas and cutting down rather than omitting salt. Magnesium is important so can be found in vegetables such as peas, and in bananas and citrus fruits.
Hope you keep working out how to help yourself. You have come a long way in a year.
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Hi marheart- I do not want to interfere with any advice you have had from oncology. I have read some highly scientific papers from US Government research which do indicate a link between the spread of cancer cells with foods containing arachidonic acid.
The highest levels of this omega 6 fatty acid come from eggs and chicken,
If you log onto NutritionFacts.org it has a video. In the search box type in arachidonic acid which will lead to a prompt about an inflammatory response to
arachidonic acid. It can encourage the growth of cancer cells.
This information is the opposite what you have been told.
Foods that are low in protein and high in carbohydrates from plant sources
may help your anxiety levels. Cutting down omega six oils found in eggs and poultry and using omega 3 acids found in fish oil supplements such as cod liver oil can help slow down the cell growth. Fats also may encourage the growth of abnormal cell growth. The doctor advises a diet with more vegetables, and aspirin like substances which are found in foods which can help lower the risk of cancer.
There is also research to show a low dose of aspirin can help cancer prevention and may help people who have developed it. You would have to check with your drugs
on line for your medical condition. The website has a blog response to questions so you may be able to ask about your drugs and condition online for free, to gain advice. The use of olive oil and sunflower margarine doe not contain omega 6 fatty acids, will check - so the reduction of arachidonic acid may help your problem.
You could eat alternatives such as boiled rice with some olives, tomatoes, cottage cheese and beets. If you cut the eggs and poultry and rely on other vegetables such as mushrooms swede, potatoes, green vegetables an a little cheese and milk
you might find your mood symptoms of anxiety and depression may change.
I know this is a delicate subject but changing to a more vegetable and lower protein diet for a change might help. It would also be less expensive.
Vitamin C levels should be higher, as they stimulate the foods and enzymes to convert into chemical chains which can help tissue repair, airways, and depression.
You could ask your family to prepare boiled rice and add other foods such as beets or olives in jars and drink more milk. Porridge sachets can be mixed with water so
it's just like reheating food. Think this is interesting information and higher levels of breast cancer sufferers have high arachidonic acid in their blood - government US.
Arachidonic acid can cause coronary artery disease as well in some people.
Whole grains rather than refined processed wheat are recommended. If you like muesli you can add some sultanas or dried apricot and have this with milk.
Low fat milk might be better. You will still be getting your protein from the milk but be cutting down the arachidonic acid in foods.. If you change your diet for two weeks and find your anxiety levels are less, then you might be encouraged to continue with this diet. I know you are on a budget, so you may be able to balance this out. Another tip is to give up tannins in tea and coffee. It is like smoking.
I drink Ribena and have warm cocoa, with milk to keep my milk levels up especially before going to bed. I only drink Cadburys drinking chocolate now as some others have additives I can taste. Cadbury's has been taken over by Nestles I believe.
Tell me if you liked the videos found on
NutritionFacts.org
marheart in reply to
Wow! Thanks for the wealth of information. Overwhelming at the idea of completely changing my food intake without in person support.
Seems behind all this confusion for me is that I'm from the generation where Drs. gave their suggestions and opinions. Now they back away, give pros and cons when asked and won't give an opinion.
The Drs. I've seen look at me in the eyes, shake their head from left to right (saying No surgery, for example, about the huge hernia) but won't discuss it any further.
Oncologist said he will answer when I ask. That has turned out to mean I don't get answers unless I can figure out the questions to ask, like about eating. When he told me to eat whatever I want to eat, my brain translated that into the most negative of all negatives are in the pipeline so go ahead and eat while I can.
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It is the shock of being sent away and so much information. So glad you looked at this information. |You can always change your grocery order, and eat the chicken meals over a period of weeks so you won't lose out. It has been a steep learning curve for me as the information has mainly concerning skin cancer about the main cause the sun. Other factors are not involved. I had to find out how to help myself
and feel better for giving up tannins for removing my food intolerances, adding vitamin D3 as I cannot go out in the sun without freckles and moles.
There are certain health foods such as apricot kernels which may be helpful as part of an anticancer food but only one or two would be needed each day. There are so many health food and think Stephen Gundy's MD diet the berry diet with blue berries, black currants, and other berries, are useful as they help metabolism and are full of antioxidants. Vitamin C in high doses is the best food to help your blood and your body to help repair itself. The fish oil supplement ie cod liver oil is meant to be the best for helping your body immune system. Krill oil is recommended but I believe this oil damages the food chain - it is so high in price some companies are destroying the environment whilst coining it in. Helping yourself is a good way of helping yourself practically. You can get good cod liver oil supplements in some supermarkets on line or in store and they are not so expensive.
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Guess the additional fluid that results from taking for gleevo may be making your hernia under stress. As your thyroid may be affected as a side effect of gleevo this again can affect your water balance. If you are unable to get rid of the excess water
from your system your sodium and potassium balance may be out of kilter.
Celery seed is said to help eliminate water, and cutting down on salt in your diet,
increasing your potassium in the diet by eating bananas can help potassium and magnesium levels. Anxiety and depression can be relieved by eating coconut oil in jars from supermarket. It does not cost much. I eat a teaspoon a day on an oat biscuit and have a little oil a day which wards of some viruses and bacterial infection including h. pylori stomach infection. This can help prevent cancer too.
Celery casserole is very good for eliminating toxins and acting as a diuretic.
I don't think you would have to pay too much extra to have these basic foods in your diet. I guess you are very careful with your budget. I have found the coconut oil and olive oil have helped infections. Have a history of double pneumonia, diabetes, and have to take a diuretic for ascites/edema. Think you are marvellous
and you have some help with your son's fiancé - she too has anxiety so she may get tense with too much input. She has found a food formula which works, but may be
you could ask for frozen celery carrots onions potato and chicken broth soup?
You can freeze these in cups or beakers, or in plastic freezer bags with a mug full of soup. This might be more economical adding to meals prepared. My hand blender
broke so used a potato smasher to crush the veges in soup. The Buspar might be changed to another drug for anxiety due to it's side effects of liver and upset digestion and feeling nervous. Everyone is different with food so if you can eat good brands of tin soup Heinz - no additives - Baxter - guess you have a supermarket to access some foods.
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Some research indicates people can benefit from fasting. When you wake up you are not feeling hungry, but feel you have to eat something. This is making you anxious. If you were to eat a bit later on in the morning, would it help you?
We often have brunch rather than breakfast. If you are not hungry is your body telling you not to eat until you feel you need something? It is drinking water which helps you not to be dehydrated and to feel dizzy. Do you drink tea or coffee first thing in the morning and have drinks throughout the day?
Perhaps you could try eating your breakfast a bit later in the morning say at 10pm.
Do you go to bed late?
marheart in reply to
Been falling asleep on couch for a couple of hours, then bed time around 10-12:00. Not hungry for other meals have come in to play.
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When you feel anxious and depressed, or have nervous exhaustion then a couple of hours rest during the day is probably helpful - it's when you are not eating, and the drugs you are taking are affecting your metabolism, so that you are nervous or have insomnia or you just want to sleep all day then you know your body is slowing down. The effects of the Gleevo can cause digestive problems as well as edema, low iron, and can affect your thyroid gland making you slower. Hope you get some more checks for any adverse effects from the medication prescribed and for vitamin iron and thyroid levels. Thyroid problems can be linked to edema as well as the drug Gleevo. Hope you are feeling better. The website healthy eating is good to stimulate your appetite - I hope some fresh fruit will be added to your diet as part of your food budget - nothing like an apple or banana tomatoes to help your vitamin levels.
Hi you guys have a long conversation going here and I have brain fog, but just wanted to clarify that cancer feeds on ALL sugar, that means not just candy and chocolate, but honey, fruit, all carbohydrates - starches, flour, potatoes, grains. Almost all processed products have sugar added to them. Also cutting on sugar doesn’t mean you should stock up on protein - if you cut carbs but instead eat a lot of protein then the excess protein will be broken down to sugars by your body and still feed the cancer. What we need to eat for energy is healthy fats. Didn’t mean to cut in, but I know it’s complicated and it wouldn’t feel right not to share in case it helps.... it also might be good to do intermittent fasting which raises autophagy (the body recycling itself and getting rid of damaged cells).
marheart in reply to
Not fed up with dietary restrictions because there is so much conflicting advice I can only go with what sounds correct.
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Yes it is good ( Bach )have you tried magnesium pillules or magnesium carbonate in some indigestion remedies? I have a range of homeopathic remedies - St John' Wort
and Valerian is really good for anxiety. We rub valerian oil on our cat's head before travelling - it really helps calm her down.
marheart in reply to
Psych and Talk Therapist are talking about giving up on me. These are my positive guiders?
My body is the most sensitive they have ever experienced. Almost all of what I've taken in the past 4+ yrs. have caused me to be sick most of the time.
My Insurer is the largest in the USA. They go by the rules.
We've tried every category of meds. Many people are being helped with Magnesium at a dose of around 350 mil. I started at 100 and went down to 25. Another idea to face med recycling bin!
If there is such a thing as Karma I must have been a terrible, horrible person in a past life to get such struggles as a senior.
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Heh marheart - there are a lot of people who have sensitivities to foods which go undiscovered. Suzy Cohen at suzycohen.com talks about multi allergies which can be more common where the body creates too much histamine. I had a food intolerance test which is part of medical study, under celiac disease.
These tests normally centre round wheat with gluten - but they may not test for other grains. I have a multi grain allergy rice maize rye barley and wheat ,dairy, egg. and banana. I can drink lactase free milk as am not allergic to the milk protein.
That seems a simple list until you find out how much food is made from
maize - corn syrup - rye-barley -malt and wheat which is not gluten free.
When I cut out the grains, soft cheeses, and egg, removed yoghurts, cream,
my IBS improved. I don't know if there are any tests administered for multi grain but dairy, gluten, egg, should be routinely tested for celiac disease.
As your body is so sensitive, you could ask about food intolerance tests, for your stomach and intestines. Thyroid problems may also be linked to auto immune disease where the body rejects foods it can't handle. I would go and ask for food intolerance tests, to see how much they are affecting your body histamine response.
I take an antihistamine tablet every day, but still have to cut out those foods which are irritating my system. There are people who say these allergic reactions to foods, environment, are all in the mind! As you have treatment for cancer, then may be you can help your body repair itself by removing those foods, which are delaying your progress. Think if you have an intolerance to some types of dairy or egg how this will alter your reactions if you have an intolerance. As you have subscribed to the insurance, company then phoning your surgery to find out if you have an autoimmunity to certain foods, should qualify under your insurance.
Guess you should phone up the insurance company and ask if tests for celiac disease are covered. Thinking of you.
marheart in reply to
Wow! Thanks for info. Was tested immediately for Celiac as the first test a couple of years ago. Also dozens and dozens of other blood tests which so far have not yielded any help.
I keep asking.
We did discover the doses were all way too high in the past for my sensitive body to tolerate them.
Had option of starting from scratch and trying lower doses of each one. Left that idea sit still, and moved forward with trying magnesium. No good.
The problem continues with the Chemo tablet. Taking less than the child dose, but I tolerate it. Drs don't know how that will affect any progress.
It's exhausting!
This whole arena changed me into not being happy to be a creative, different than run of the meal individual. (If that's possible)
marheart in reply to
Any ideas about my taking BusPar, Valium and Gleevec. That's the only arsenal of meds. my body has been able to tolerate.
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If you look up drugs.com you can see the interactions with the drugs and with foods. This website is a real insight. You can also type in the name of your drug and ask for a patient leaflet which is handy for general reference. You obviously have had some tests for celiac disease. Think you said you do not eat gluten?
There is a self test from Amazon.com which you can have a finger prick test either do it yourself or may be your son could do it for you. The lab tests and postage are free. It tests for 64 foods which is better than a hospital which only test for a few foods. It costs about £68 which is probably about £100 dollars.
I guess if you have had some tests 2 years ago there was no one to interpret them for you. It is known that thyroid problems can affect your over all sensitivity, and can make you anxious, I'm sure you hate hospitals and that's why you get such bad breathing problems with stress levels rising. I was told to take Valium before having an MRI scan. The private scan did not offer Valium before you had the test so had to get a prescription before the test. If you need the fluid removed then may be it will help, but if there are other reasons such as too much salt, or too much protein,
in the diet, cutting down on salt and adding a banana to your diet every day, can help your potassium and magnesium levels. Antihistamines and diuretics may help so asking for both of these to prevent oedema might help.
Can see you are starting to tick boxes and cross off things that might be affecting your blood pressure and anxiety other than the stressful circumstances and fear that combines to make you feel so poorly.
marheart in reply to
What a website drugs.com. Amazing.
It showed up a total of 927 drugs are known to interact with Gleevec.
No wonder big Pharma avoids telling us those details. We are captives.
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It is amazing as it tells you food interactions as well as other drugs interactions.
Did you find any drugs you take interacted with your therapy drug? If so can you alter any drug so the effects of your drug are not lessened. It took a long while to find out that if you are on certain medicines they do not mix with alcohol. Most of us don't bother to read the miniscule print - but it is important if you can recognise something that might upset you. It could be a filler or a capsule cover with titanium
or wheat or something when they bind the drugs. I am now sceptical of the attributed to the use of antibiotics as they seem to say they are not necessary when people might have a reaction to some of the fillers and substances in the drug.
Am so pleased you are unlocking your health problems.
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Out of interest have been looking at your drug list - Buscopar has interaction with your Valium. It can make you feel nervous and over excited. The Gleevec you are taking has side effects of possible anaemia, and iron deficiency. It also can affect your balance with dizziness, and give edema. Think you should ask your mental health team about replacing the Buspar with another anti anxiety product which does not react with Valium. There is an interesting paper written by a carer and wife about Gleevec and side effects. This is a science org, with feedback.
The article does mention the use of diuretics, to help fluid. There are interaction with Lasix diuretic, but others may be ok. May be you should have your vitamin levels and vitamin D and iron and serum levels checked as you have been on the drug for some time.
Gleevac - Side effects and Tips -
gistsupport.org/gsi-communi...
Have been away so have been unable to find this thread.
marheart in reply to
Those natural remedies should be the first line of defense.
Unfortunately my super sensitive body rejects all of them and the categories of Anxiety/Panic prescription meds.
Oncologist, Psych. and Talk Therapist at a loss to help me.
Hopefully I'm not the only one struggling on a daily basis with this rare and unusual sensitivity.
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Other suggestions - Your doctor may refer you to a recognised registered
practitioner. for all of these treatments. An elderly lady in her 90's has been helped
by acupuncture, this is non allergic treatment.
Acupuncture -
Raith ear piercings,
Alpha- stim. C.E.S.
Alpha-stim. Alpha- stim can be done by a medical practitioner and is cranial electrotherapy. A micro current with a low wave helps the cells which are causing the anxiety and depression. It can be bought for home use with a small unit, or hand held device. The course of treatments are recognised as a therapy by U.S.governmen,t so should be covered by insurance. There is a good web site detailing everything including finding a practitioner in your area. ( Allevia Health.) As you have problems with mobility and balance it could be difficult to do the treatment itself.
Have you been prescribed any antihistamine tablets to take every day?
It is surprising how many people who have been health fanatics have been
surprised how their allergy response improve with anti histamines.
You can buy Clarytin over the counter at pharmacy. Your doctors should be able to give you a prescription.
I guess you are phased that your counselling has been
stopped, as they can't cope with your stress symptoms. This is causing you more stress as you want to talk to a therapist. Do you think it was the stress when you first found out about your diagnosis and how you reacted when you had to have the fluid removed? I would go back to your doctor and get a referral to another therapist, as you need professional help.
I also take Pyriton antihistamines if I have a sting or allergic response which are a life saver. Is there an anti allergy unit under your medical treatment as even things like asthma, can be linked to petrol fumes in the atmosphere and pollution. I don't know who your doctors are but reckon there must be someone who can refer you to an allergy clinic in your area.
As there are nearly a thousand drugs which act adversely to your chemo - then the drugs for anxiety and depression should be changed . Phoning your pharmacist describing the inter reactions of your A & D drugs to chemo drugs should help.
You could then phone/ email the receptionist at the practice and tell her what drugs the pharmacist recommends for you with your allergies so your prescription can be altered. Chat soon.
marheart in reply to
I'm actually getting some help with acupressure points such as in tapping and davidwolfe.com/massage-cv17...
Great Distractions!
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A distraction does help anxiety. I did a bit of reflexology and massage
years ago, Have a left hand glove with the areas to massage on the hand.
For anxiety you could massage the thumb - the tip is the head and neck until the joint line Inner thumb between the thumb and fore finger is the thyroid.
The spine is along the outside edge of thumb leading to wrist.
The heart is under the third finger beneath the joint.
Colon small intestine in the centre of the palm. The solar plexus
Is the second finger along left hand under the joint area about an inch
from the top of the ridge. The kidney and bladder are under the first finger
going down about two inches., near the colon area. If you massage the central
area of the palm you can massage kidney bladder and colon Bet the video is good - can't get it on my computer. By massaging the spine area you are stimulating the nerves up and down your spine which lead to your whole body. Massaging the
kidney and bladder area may help the nerves leading to them making you want to pee. If you just massage your palm it is sensitive, and might help stimulation the circulation in your body. No need to reply.
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Hi there!
Welcome to the forum, I’m relatively new as well but I’ve found it to be really helpful and supportive 💜 x
Welcome to the site. We are all here for you and there is a lot of good people on here that are very supportive and helpful. Keep your head up and remember that this is a loving supporting community
Hi Noelle - guess you have problems which you find difficult to talk about. Is it a question of medication not working? Or not being able to find the right help in how to use techniques to alter your behaviour in response to situations so you don't feel anxious.
May be you have problems in the work place which you feel under pressure and seem to be getting criticism which is undeserved. Everyone can identify with these problems, and can share their experiences.
Let us know what works to help you. And what hasn't worked and why.
Those "what if..." inner dialogues are torture.
We are all looking for a path to success to deal with the anxiety disorder which robs us of our life style.
Sharing is caring.
Are you on medications?
Do you go for talk therapy?
Both key factors in helping yourself to cope.
Health Insurance offers mental health treatments.
Depression is exhausting. In this site we do our best to be positive.
Hi Noelle my sight is not brilliant so looked at your face icon - you look so cute!
Think your post has been successful but we have not been giving any feed back to your problems and your insights which have helped you.
This is the one online site designed to be supportive from all aspects. Throw your inhibitions to the wind.
There is a wealth of inforation is these discussions. thanks all!
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