Hello to old friends & new - hope this finds you in good spirits (no too much of the liquid ones) but also in improving health if not good!
So, it’s the run up to that time of year again, & oddly the exact same time of year that seems to be the time I get the AF run. Last year was my 2 year anniversary of my 3rd ablation anniversary & 8 weeks since I had the flu/covid vaccines & 7weeks since the AF commenced again.
I decided 4 weeks ago to purchase some Magnesium Taurate from the supplier many of you previously recommended & use. I took it for a month but saw no change whatsoever, I note that I had seen it can take months if at all to have an effect.
Now, “I DO NOT WANT ANYONE ELSE DOING THIS, IT IS NOT A RECOMMENDATION & CANNOT BE PROVEN TO WORK” it’s just what I chose for myself in a desperate few days.
I’d already had my prescription medications increased which reduced my blood pressure & resting heart rate but nowhere near normality. I just took double dose of Mg T on Thursday & Saturday & on Sunday I’d converted to NSR shock 😮 - I have since just taken the recommended amount. I repeat this is not by any means a recommendation but, it does make me wonder, is a lack of Mg in the diet connected as is thought by some consultants.
I had only just listened to Dr Sanjay Gupta who I know many of you follow, he said many are probably deficient especially with PPI meds but it is too hard to run accurate blood tests. I’d previously been very deficient in Vit D so now take supplement, I take Zinc to hopefully boost my immune system (which although I think it may have it didn’t stop the recent chest infection). I also use tart black Cherry capsules as they’re supposed to help gout/inflamation - & my joints seem to be a lot better!!!
All in all I wrote this, not to say do what I do but to show how hopefully different things seem to have helped me (I just hope it continues now that I’m “normal” right now!!
All the best everyone x
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Its good to hear how these supplements are helping you. You've made me think I may re-order more magnesium. Stopped taking it about about a year ago, when I decided I was getting enough through my diet, but not so sure now.
Sounds like it does for many, it was previous posts on here that made me think of it when I flipped into AFib again. Also the importance of blood thinners - so many say “Do I really need them I’m fine now?!” It was my Apple Watch that notified me - id always felt it before but not this time - that’s the danger & why they’re needed take care everyone 😊
Hi Flipper it’s good to hear that you’re doing so well and found the right supplement support for you at the right time. Interesting how the zap dose of magnesium helped! I don’t normally zap myself either, but did so recently with high dose vitamin C when I had a bad cold. It scared the cold off for sure and it didn’t progress to cough or sore throat! I understand that modern methods of agriculture have left many of us short of magnesium and probably much else besides. Thanks for the reminder (though I’ll stick with the lower dose 😊
Hi nice to hear from you - I’m hoping it was the Mg too, they are expensive but I’m willing to hope enough to buy them 😂. I take it you’re still in NSR after your cold.
Yes still in NSR thank goodness. I’ve felt a bit fluttery a few times lately, but otherwise steady. Life and emotional turmoil more likely to set the AF in motion in me, but keeping my hair on (quite literally thanks to your good advice a year or two ago!) xx
I’ve been trying new stuff, shampoos by OGX - the ones that are free of Sodium laureth sulphate, I found that another & the darned stuff is in all sorts. Before realising that was my issue I got a medicated shampoo from Gp - on that says leave for 2-3 mins - I was bright red & on fire. It’s in toothpastes, soaps, hair dyes ……. I now have to read every label. I’m trying tho for hair thickening & regrowth a mixture of Jojoba oil with a few drops of rosemary & lavender massaged into your scalp (it does tingle (probably another allergy 🤣) but it’s supposed to stimulate hair follicles /scalp & the jojoba conditions dry hair. It will make root look greasy especially if hair is fine but I use overnight. Not had hair cut for 12 weeks I no split ends. Xx
Together with my prescribed meds I took Magnesium Taurate as do a few on here - I don’t recommend you just go buy some & take it - do make sure you research first. I have zinc, vitamin D & tart montmorency cherry capsules. Again research these, I have many conditions & many prescriptions. Check with Gp or pharmacist - even taking omega 3 high strength is not recommended with some medications
I take Taurate daily and it keeps my heart calmer. Some people use heart calm and swear by it. So if one doesn’t work for some maybe the other will. I have heard from People who swear by each one. Just a thought.
Hi, yes everyone reacts differently Brit to no reaction at all to excessive reaction/allergy. We do have to be aware also, that anything we take we don’t assume it’ll be ok. When people say, “well it’s herbal it’ll be fine” - many medications are ‘herbal’ eg digoxin from Foxglove, Heroin is from poppies etc thanks for your input x
That is very true. And I even have to look at herbals that are contridicated with other meds. Especially ones that react with NOACS etc. there are reactions even though they are herbal.
when o went to ED once in AF I was given a drip of magnesium as well as a beta blocker and reverted some hours later. I understand it takes many months for your system to get benefit from magnesium supplements. I take magnesium taurate and glycinate as well as Vit d and CoQ10. It’s important to know that some supplements are fat soluble which means that for absorption into your system I have some nuts or avocado or maybe a teaspoon of peanut butter with them.
That’s very interesting-something I haven’t picked up! Yes I knew the effect could take a long time but I also am very sensitive to many meds /allergies so I wondered if the sensitivity may be why I reacted quickly to the increased dose if that is what got me back to NSR
Could be the reason. When you next do your bloods get all 3 checked as you don’t want to over do on supplements they can have a negative effect on you if you take too much
You can have, through taking supplements, toxicity of Vit D, Magnesium, Potassium and probably zinc.
Cherries react to my thyroxine for some reason.
And its building up of the dose of above which the body can't eliminate like natural foods do.
Have a blood test for those which need testing. Give your Dr a list.
Toxic Vit D made the outside veins of my friends burst. Yuck.
I know that Bisoprolol made my potassium increase to 4.9. When another Dr gave me a constipation liqid med and I ran the name past the Locum who has had AF and I usually go to her, she said "you can't have that". Now I have T3 selimium through 2 brazil nuts per day, sardines once a week, and beef liver two days in each month, I saw my T3 rise from 3.5 to 4.2 into normal level. And statins push most into diabetes 2 starting with the nurse or doctor saying you are pre-diabetes.
No thanx my father diabetes 1 from age of 25 years. He was tested when he signed up as an Mechanical Engineer in WW2.
Have your tests done - there's a good flipper from the past.
cherio JOY. 75. (NZ)
Merry Seasonal Greetings from good olde New Zealand.
Hi Joy, hope you are ok, thank you very much for your feedback back & I will - I did notify them of the things I take & how much. I’m also reducing meds & supplements back down to where they were prior to going into AF. Just had the bloods done & my Gp wants a review again in February so I will ask her to check all this out. Thanks again, all the best to you for the festive season & for 2025. Take care & hope you stay well x
I have been taking magnesium turate for about 6 years now after my successful ablation, I use to get lots of annoying ectopic's now I don't even notice when I get the odd one or two.
I realise that what works for one won't work for all, and that various supplements, including magnesium salts such as taurate, are taken by some here. I can say that magnesium taurate (and other salts) nor Vitamin D or B12 did anything at all for me at all, despite larger doses and long periods of trying.
There has, in fact, been quite a lot of good quality medical research to try to show oral magnesium salts have some useful effects against AF and other cardiac arrhythmias, but none have shown any useful effect at all. Indeed, it really looks as if, from a scientific perspective, that it cannot work. On the other hand, it is safe and not that expensive, so there's no harm in trying.
Dr Gupta is not correct concerning the effect of magnesium or its depletion in those taking PPI drugs such as omeprazole and lansoprazole. Not only is there no evidence that magnesium works to reduce AF or arrhythmias, but PPI drugs do not impair magnesium absorption except as an unusual and unfortunate side effect. When this side effect does occur, the only way to allow Mg to become absorbed is to stop the PPI tablet. In this case, it is a serious issue and needs medical attention. In fact, no amount of supplementation, in this unusual scenario, will work at all. The PPI will have to be stopped to allow magnesium to be absorbed again (which happens immediately, I gather). The doctor must know this, so I would say that he makes claims against the scientific evidence. It is also the case that, through his online company, he sells the supplement.
Oh, Ive only just started to search him, again it was the lovely folk on here a year or so ago told me to look him up as the thought he was pretty good,
I do try, as I mentioned before, if I hear about something that I think I may wish to persue for myself I do try to get as much info from various sources, not just accept one as gospel but thanks for your info - was there something particular you found to be a negative? All the best x
I appreciate you contribution & must stress I don’t ask anyone to do as I do but to gather their own info on facts. I would never have heard of this had someone not mentioned to me, I think many would agree that when you become so debilitated you’ll read, digest & maybe try to achieve normality again.
In my case, I was told by my consultant that I am incredibly in tune with my own body and the medications I use. That I’m fairly knowledgable as to how each medications affects me. I’ve had AF about 18 years or so, I have rarely self converted but when when I have (as with this occasion) I feel I know what happened. Personally I’m not asking anyone to take my word that it’s the magnesium but I feel fairly positive it was.
As soon as I took it 8weeks ago I felt that, ok it did not affect the HR but, I did notice a feeling of extreme relaxation the following mornings (I took it at bedtime). I’m usually insomniac but I’ve been sleeping more hours soundly. My hypothesis is, it works on muscles of which the heart is one. I was on prescribed meds to slow down the heart & lower BP. Maybe a combination but I’ve previously had to take up to 15mg of Bisoprolol which a couple of years back still didn’t make great headway in slowing me down. I got to 10mg this time from 2.5 (in stages) but only for a couple of days & it was too much, the Mg T was the only different thing in the equation of long standing drugs. I’m now going to 5mg tomorrow as now NSR is still to much. I cannot think of anything else to cause a sudden drop back into NSR.
I am incredibly sensitive and allergic to many meds or what they’re mixed with - perhaps I am super sensitive to extra Mg - we all react differently. And as I have said, never have I told people this will work for you - I just feel, having been of this site about 3 years, & know a lot of names that have helped me, cheered me up when things felt dire, this was pretty much just a good update session that may spark interest.
Anyway, thanks again, I hope you are doing well in yourself x
A lovely reply. Thank you. I am guessing that either you had a case of magnesium depletion or something like that. There are all kinds of reasons for the effects you have found and it would be impossible likely to find them. How good though that it worked! I, too, have chronic insomnia and have taken magnesium years back to help with this. I wish it had. No luck for me.
I only replied in the ways I did as magnesium supplements (and much else) is sold and promoted online at high profit to the seller but in ways that no medicine would legally be able to be promoted in other ways. Medicines have to be approved and this requires proof of effectiveness at what they are claimed to do.
Hi Steve, yes who knows & as you say never know for definite. I hate sales ploys, I remember years ago, dieters were bombarded with a tea, something like Baylis or similar, promoted by Sam Fox I think - had women thinking if they drank it the weight would fall off & probably thought they’d look lik her! Cup of black tea basically, not a calorie in site - of course if you live on that the weight would fall off 🤣
Has your Gp tried you on sleeping tabs? I use them very infrequently when I’ve gone days with no sleep.
I also used certain Zen music found on Spotify-use ear buds so you can sleep on your ears no problem & they’ll play for about 9 hours or more when they work (have to find the right one for you - tones, volume etc & I go unconscious 😂
My GP is brilliant, but there's a limit to what tablets can do. He gives me zolpidem, which is safe and not habit forming, and leaves no after effects the next day (although I gather some can have weird side effects). But... it works for a very short time, maybe 3 hours at most.
I have an over-active mind, I think (whatever that means). I envy people who just "fall asleep"! They are luckier than they can ever know.
I got Zopiclone prescribed as I can literally go days without no sleep but used incorrectly they could be addictive. I’m only allowed so many a month but one month can last 2-3 (I’m a lot better since retiring as I can sleep whenever & don’t need to work having not slept anymore. Perks of getting old eh
Many studies show these "Z" drugs not to be addicting at all nor to have hangover effects, but some people can, despite the pharmacology and the studies, still become reliant, it seems. I just wished they lasted longer keeping me asleep. My GP had to take it once an said he was out for the night. If only!!
sorry Steve, but you are wrong on the magnesium. In hospitals, magnesium IV is used as a standard drug of choice for arrythmias. Also, the medical literature out there does say that magnesium is depleted in the body when taking proton pump inhibitors (PPI) and that magnesium supplements may need to be taken in addition to taking the PPI.
I'm not a doctor, of course, but feel confident of my facts on this from online research, studies and similar.
I can find nothing to show that the rare side effect of PPI drugs affecting Mg++ absorption is different from what I described. The incidence of the problem seems oddly and unfortunately not to be known and might yet prove to be an issue, but it seems a very unusual side effect.
Oral magnesium is as I described: it has not been shown to be useful in treating arrhythmias. Intravenous magnesium is entirely different since it overcomes the poor absorption of oral Mg++. That said, intravenous magnesium is not reported as being a standard emergency treatment for arrhythmias.
I was told by the cardiac nurse and an A&E doctor that they do administer magnesium in an emergency setting BUT they do test beforehand to check magnesium levels. The point-of-care blood tests are almost instantaneous so they can find out very quickly if it’s a factor in someone admitted with an arrhythmia.
I was advised by the arrhythmia nurse not to take OTC magnesium supplements if they’re not prescribed. I did try them in the past to see if they would reduce my ectopics but they didn’t. I thought I was having more ectopics on magnesium looking back it probably wasn’t making any difference either way. In any case, I don’t take magnesium supplements. Supplements are supposed to make up for dietary deficiencies, they’re not pretend medicines.
At least magnesium salts are safe because the body rejects what it can't use - and that's most of what is in a tablet. The idea that we are "short" of this or that vitamin or mineral has been debunked too often to be necessary, but people know better than the science.
People will still go and seek out a supplement cure whether it’s for acne or bunions or broken fingernails. The last time I was in H&B I couldn’t get over how many menopause supplements there were. I went through the menopause without taking any of any of those supplements marketed to women for the menopause. It seems that fairly recently the market has exploded, and it’s just a way to chisel money out of people, as if we need a supplement for every little thing. I don’t take vitamin C if I have a cold and guess what? The cold goes away! Well, I never, etc etc. I must be the only one of my friends who take nothing if I have a cold. 😂
My husband has never taken supplements and he has no diagnosed conditions whatsoever, takes no medications. Only vitamin D in winter and that’s it. I have a friend who doesn’t eat and relies on supplements and fortified foods. She’s in a bad way after a lifetime of eating disorders and she has fallen for all the fads, including “plants are trying to kill you” so she won’t eat vegetables or fruit. Add to that the “gluten is baaaaad” and “scary dairy” and whatever other fad comes along. She certainly needs supplements. People like my brother in law and his partner eat better than 99.999% of the country, grow their own veg, apple trees, buy their sourdough at the local artisan baker etc, and yet they take supplements because they are convinced they aren’t getting all the nutrients they need. What???!!!! 🤷🏻♀️
I say each to their own, share info as some are interested & think it would help them even! Some not interested which is fine too! You & your husband seem maybe to have been blessed with a good set of genetics maybe & an immune system firing on all cylinders (my husband is one but does take a multivitamin daily & actually gets maybe one cold a year (I get a cold which always goes to my chest, lasts minimum of 4 weeks. So yes the cold virus goes but leave me with a trail of destruction, last one gave me Bronchiectasis following a 4 month battle)
Probably a good thing your friend uses replacement for eating disorders which are physically & mentally depleting the body.
Maybe don’t think the, “I don’t care who takes what or what neighbour had to eat” but maybe if they are frail, elderly, skin & bone & can’t walk - think are they getting food good to eat - are they malnourished, unable to get food or cook it. Also friends, may not be as healthy to meet up without their H & B purchases (other providers are available & I’ve not been paid to advertise their stuff 🤣 in mentioning it
In the days when there were no supplements there was rickets for one! Before HRT the menopause existed some sailed through with nothing others just dissolved into irrational, tearful, argumentative fighters who ended up in the local asylum & never came out back in the day of no supplements. Yes now there are all sorts of things to help (they got rid of the asylums & rickets 🤣
Jokes aside, be thankful for the good things that improve our lives & that of family, friend, everyone today - even if it’s a placebo effect that makes things better bee🐝 happy🤩 x
Having read your comment which is an inclusion on the post I originally wrote I do hope the projection was not actually directed at me as if I were insinuating it?!
If it was, I stated then that I had no intention of telling people what to take/or not & what is a medication or not one. I hope I made that crystal clear that I purely commented on my experiences. If it wasn’t clear then of course I’d apologise & stand corrected .
Just for the record I am still in perfect NSR on my Applewatch ECG & HR of 64 right now. I personally have noticed on the nights I have taken MgT I have slept brilliantly (for an insomniac to say that is odd I know.)
Just out of it being an added comment, where do you or anyone draw a line at real medicine or pretend medicine. Previously, I mentioned Digoxin - comes from the Foxglove plant - for me it didn’t do what it was meant to (I actually got very sick while taking it & went into HF while using it) it didn’t slow my HR. Was that a pretend medicine for me & real for those it does work for?
Why is a laboratory created pill/liquid/injection etc called a medicine one minute but “fake” the next?
I don’t think you can buy dandelion sap (maybe you can) but, it can on some get rid of wretched verrucas. Also on a similar tangent others as can apparently, by taping old banana flesh over them with duck tape can get rid of them but the banana flesh is also a good to certain plants. Decaf tea is not pretend tea! I could go on but ill save that for now.
Anyway I’m not being facetious toward you or anyone & having a go at anyone on here. I’m just pointing out that differences in opinions that medicines drug additives etc at different doses can cause different reactions - eg a blood pressure pill -when different people take it we often see it give different results. Antibiotics, some need higher doses, longer courses & some are just allergic. An illicit one - some die instantly on their first try but the addict is a different story.
Sorry for this lengthy comment but I felt it was directed at me maybe so felt the need to make sure I’d not been mis understood
Thank you everyone (friends old & new) hopefully I’ve no enemies! Hope you all have a good night xx
No, not directed at you at all. Yes, I know that some medications are derived from plants. Herbal medicines are not supplements. They can and do have effects and side effects and need to be used wisely and with caution. Supplements - such as the shelves of various vitamins and minerals in H&B have their place, especially if correcting a proven deficiency or a dietary lack, but their use is limited. Some people believe in them come what may. I don’t believe they do all that much and many work as placebos — and the placebo effect is real for some people. Take supplements. Don’t take supplements. I don’t care who takes what in the same way that I don’t care about what my neighbour had for dinner tonight. 🤷🏻♀️
I thought that was a good set of replies - interesting. I do think it's more likely that almost all supplements work by a placebo effect, or to provide much-needed comfort and reassurance. There's nothing wrong with that at all, and I truly wish I could find something that gave me that much, but, no.
The issue for me is that many of these products are promoted online and get away with misleading claims and dubious wording; and they are no doubt making a vast profit for the sellers. That some online doctors should make misleading claims is unforgivable and shows just how uncontrolled the internet is.
It is also hard to say anything against subjective comments on any social media thread, too, as defensive echo chambers form so often and flaming is easily the result. This thread was a pleasure in that respect.
I wish the placebo effect worked better for me too!
I agree totally about these misleading claims for supplements. If you deconstruct the claims they are often not based on the product itself. I had a look at those grounding sheets and the “science” behind the claims. Not only was the evidence very weak, the product hadn’t been tested or proven to do anything. The theory was very tenuous and involved several leaps of faith. However, if you sleep better on expensive sheets, enjoy your expensive sheets. I suspect getting to bed earlier and establishing good sleep habits is probably more effective but that’s the sort of advice that is ubiquitous and free — exactly what people don’t (or won’t) pay attention to, unless there is a product to buy and a cute theory to sell it.
I understand why people want to believe in all of this stuff but they’re often buying nothing more than a cheap vitamin/mineral pill at a huge markup, or a simple food product turned into a pretend remedy with implied medical benefits. Take those “immunity shots”. They’re just fruit juice with a few spices added. They don’t prevent or treat anything. And as for that Zoe “gut shot”, it’s a fruit flavoured kefir sold at a ridiculously expensive price. I won’t even mention their extortionately priced seed mix, other than to say you can make your own for much less. The profit margin for these “health” products is massive and their health benefits are marginal. But … placebo, faith, branding, identity..
I’ve never been a follower of fashion or brand labels - nothing as ridiculous as paying £100 for a white t-shirt with a 1cm logo on the chest that looks more like a repair patch - it’s hasn’t even got a colour to the shirt but got to have it because blah blah. £200 for a winter designer gillet - it’s a body warmer & moreover a winter coat with no sleeves but it’s designer. Young women, short skirts & 6 inch heels walking like that Julie Walter’s character Mrs Overall, with a 90 degree bend in the back & 90 angle at the knees trying to balance - thinking they look fabulous because the shoes are designer. Creams, lotions & potions that will get rid of wrinkles - £180 proven in tests to be effective - yet advertised on women who are 25 & the study was only done on 20 people but it’s proven to be expensive and a label - it’s the same with everything really.
Hope that gives people a laugh if nothing else. No point getting upset or irate, you can advise but like kids, they need to find out for themselves.
On the other hand, that’s the point of forums, glean from those who’ve seen it, experienced it, done it & still here to live another day, month, years. I have taken lots of information, advice etc I was told of Mg T couple of years ago - took me till now to try it. Anyway, sleep well everyone, tomorrow’s another day 😊
hi flipper good to hear that you are feeling a lot better after all you have been through. Apart from my prescribed medication I have now been put on B6/12 and Magnesium Glycinate by my pain consultant ..take care
Hey Ludham, great to hear from you, often think of you during insomnia attacks - has that got any better? Hope the Mg G & B6/12 are helping! Hope the family are ok - you take care xx
Hello flipper yes good to hear from you often think about you I am not bad at moment had some flutter issues but the insomnia has got better with the help of piriton tablets. But still only go for a few hours once awake have to get up. We have both our cataracts removed this year. I am waiting for an operation on two of my fingers which are going to be fused.went former pre ok tests today it’s going to be a problem as I will not be able to use hand for six weeks and wife’s mobility getting worse but daughter is going to help out.have to change and have meals in kitchen on ground floor.how about holiday you were looking forward to and have you been able to find another job I hope so.please take take for you and your hubby.xx
Sorry to hear you need more surgery, and wife’s mobility is worse. I haven’t slept yet & its 2:45am. Feel very wide awake but through the day exhausted - mind you I’ve slept great this last week.
I went on my holiday, oh it was idyllic. Beautiful ocean views, everywhere was spotless and then staff were amazing. I did have a couple of falls on day one, it definitely wasn’t alcohol but no doubt people assumed it was as it was free flowing dawn till the next dawn - yes 24/7. There were no kids or teens & although there was alcohol it was not the type of place where everyone was out of it or loud etc - all guest were probably 50+ (I celebrated my 60th there & was thoroughly spoiled. Provided I stay well we’re going again next year. Also going to spend some time in Spain when our winter is at its worst so we’re teaching ourselves the language.
In answer to the job - I just decided to retire & love it. Happened at the right time as hubby was made redundant & will also retire. May as well do it while we can enjoy it & do things together.
How did house hunting go or not?
Hope your wife’s leg is ok now - I wish you well with your operation, & best wishes for the festivities & new year to you both & family. I think it was maybe this time last year we messaged as think you were going to your daughters for the Xmas feast. X
Hi flipper sorry to hear about your insomnia glad you had a holiday sounds very peaceful especially without children. Wife’s leg all healed apart from a scar and dent we were going to hospital every week for it to be dressed went there for months and had the same nurse each visit.housing still not moved thinking about a shower as wife cannot get in bath also a chair lift we did hold off but we think we are going ahead.Christmas we are staying in Teddington and Twickenham where the children live. Christmas Day out to lunch close by Hampton Court Palace enjoy before I go out of commission for six weeks only being able to use one hand. Have a good one xx
I’m convinced AF is related to lack of electrolytic minerals that include Mg but also potassium and zinc. Personality I take MgT as well as Vit D/K (combined available at Costco), and a stick of celery for blood pressure control (check on YT about Nitric Oxide). With cereal a small handful of pumpkin seeds (that also contain the minerals as above). Also take edoxaban.
Currently the AF burden is once for about few mins every 3-4 months. 🙏
Hi GoodHearty, I go through phases of eating seed then stop (no idea why) must get back on them. I will check re nitric oxide (did just chicle as I first mis read & thought about nitrous oxide 🤣 🙄. You may have already researched / checked (I don’t want to speak out of turn) I was under the impression that vitamin should not be taken with blood thinners ie Edoxaban as it actually helps to clot the blood (maybe I have it wrong). I hate celery, it looks & sounds so nice when people get it out of the fridge with dips - crunchy & refreshing but I hate the taste ( is ok in soups/casserole but then probably nothing left in it
Stick (!) with celery, if you are borderline hypertensive, like I was, it’s brought blood pressure down remarkably and avoids having to take meds. With hummus 👍.
With new anticoagulants like edoxaban there is no counter indication with vit K2.
it’s one of those things when you will never know if they help or not. I have been taking Mag T for 3 yrs.. who knows if my episodes would have been worse if I didn’t take them but if it helps the heart muscles I’ll try it… have to say episodes I have aren’t as violent …. I take Vit C too as the good doctor says…apparently that helps repair the heart..well it did in rats ! Dammed if you do and dammed if you don’t, not having any medical knowledge I can’t really advise you but as others say If you get admitted into hospital with afib one of the first things they do is stick you on magnesium drip. I believe. May be wrong
I agree with the magnesium...they give mag oxide in the hospitals and magnesium is a drug of choice for arrythmias. It does calm the palpitations considerably.
However since then ive started taking high doses of Vit D so I doubled my magnesium chloride to 1200mg per day. Again, not medical advice but it works for me.
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