Magnesium

[BC50]

Does anyone take magnesium supplements. If so, do you think it makes a difference? What kind and amount.

Thanks

[Hidden]

Lots of us do BC but it’s the same old story, you don’t really know how you would feel if you didn’t! Most cardiologists agree that a magnesium supplement helps to the heart to function in a more stable manner and can also help to reduce ectopics. The best thing for you to do is search YouTube for Dr Sanjay Gupta’s videos on Magnesium where you will find 2 or 3 very helpful ones where he goes into some detail about the questions you raise. Magnesium Taurate is generally favoured which I take and I use the ones produced by BioCare. It’s always a good idea to check with your doctor before taking .........

[BC50 in reply to Hidden]

Thanks

[Starchild18]

I have been taking extended release magnesium by Life Extension in the morning with my vitamins and a 400 mg magnesium with evening meal. I find it’s great for calming nerves and great to keep my heart in sinus rhythm.

[S11m]

Yes… I take magnesium for cramp. 375mg twice a day when I need it.

I also take half a level teaspoon full of pink Himalayan salt per day.

[Bagrat]

Yes lots of threads on magnesium on here if you use the search facility ( magnifying glass at top of page. I also take Magnesium taurate for heart health with no problems but only take half recommended dose as I eat a magnesium richer diet than some. If you have a sensitive stomach magnesium glycinate is supposed to be less irritating.

[Elaine1951]

Yes. I take magnesium Taurate I am convinced it makes a difference. I also take Hawthorne. I am lucky not to need any other med. We are all unique. I also suggest looking at Sanjay Gupta work.

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[Jennyquilt0]

Agree with all flapjack says

[Jalia]

I've been taking magnesium for prob 2 years....first magnesium taurate and halfway through changed to magnesium glycinate ( has better absorbency and recommended by the justifiably celebrated Dr Sanjay Gupta ).

I've not had an episode of AF for over 12 months. ...a record in recent years for me....and in addition I am no longer hypertensive so am no longer taking my BP drug Candesartan which I've been on for 17 years !!

[Hidden in reply to Jalia]

Wow, sounds great. I too take magnesium Glycinate 400 mg daily. Ive not had a fib for 15 mo, longest time so far. A couple weeks ago I quit the magnesium just because I was weary of pills. I started developing more frequent ectopics, so went back on it and they stopped.

[Jalia in reply to Hidden]

That's really good to hear Hoski. We shall have to keep watch on each other to see how we progress!

I was taking 200mg twice a day until 3 months ago when I decided to take just the evening dose of 200mg. Reason for this was that my morning dose was taken with levothyroxine and I didn't realise until I did my own investigations that this was responsible for my thyroid blood tests going awry......shouldn't be taken together !

I couldn't be bothered with faffing about with taking mid morning so trialled with half dose and so far ok......

[Boombiddy]

HI BC50 , I am on Bisoprolol and read somewhere that it can make you a bit deficient in magnesium.

Since I already have Andrews Salts in the cupboard (palatable magnesium salts that go fizzy in water), I take this occasionally. It's cheap and palatable, and you take it in water. I like it!

I have taken it sometimes for various reasons including indigestion, and sometimes to make a fizzy orange juice-water mix (when I’m bored with just water), sometimes to sweeten orange juice or rhubarb (because it cuts down their acidity they taste sweeter), and just sometimes because I feel the need... can’t describe but know it. Maybe when I’m reminded of the need by an increase in ectopics.

Our soil in Britain is generally deficient in magnesium so we apparently can lack it. Your body can’t absorb/use the calcium in your diet unless you have magnesium, and since calcium is important for the nervous system, it is a good idea to supplement it anyway. (And as calcium lack can make you nervy and tetchy, magnesium is helpful for a calmer disposition).

When I have taken it because my heart has been a bit grumbly (increase in ectopics), I have felt the benefit.

In case you're worried about taking too much: if you have too much magnesium your body gets rid of it easily. You remember the phrase “it went through him like a dose of salts”? ... Yup. Magnesium salts. I haven’t had the trots from it myself, maybe cos I really do need the magnesium. But, well I thought I ought to say...

As Bagrat has said, there are a lot of threads here on magnesium, so happy hunting!

[Bagrat in reply to Boombiddy]

Always had the feeling "andrews" which my Dad took regularly had a down side

medicines.org.uk/emc/produc...

Worth a read

[Boombiddy in reply to Bagrat]

Thankyou Bagrat , that is really useful!

Ps. Was your dad a sprinter?

[Bagrat in reply to Boombiddy]

No ! He had high blood pressure even when I was a small child. He had a hard life. My Mum was an invalid Rheumatoid and "rheumatic heart". He looked after us both and worked full time. Lived to 89!

[Boombiddy in reply to Bagrat]

Wow Bagrat . What a man.

[Boombiddy in reply to Boombiddy]

Thought I had better say:

The useful link Bagrat gave re. the Andrews shows that there is some sodium and some sugar in the Andrews. I apologise if those are things that would affect you, and am very grateful to Bagrat for pointing it out.

I can’t remember if it is a significant amount but as we all have different tolerances, it is worth using Bagrat's link below to check it out.

Phew, relief! Ever since Bagrat posted it it's been at the back of my mind...

[Supernerogirl]

I take magnesium and I think it’s made a difference

[Pearce1940oscar]

I take magnesium taurine 200 mg on the morning and 200 mg in

the evening and have seen a great improvement in my afib

[Tomred]

hi ive tried most types but havent had results but still have to try mag glycinate or magnesium threonate but i dont hold out much hope to be honest

[robert1957]

Hello I take magnesium and have been for the last two years you need to research magnesium deficiency and symptoms of magnesium deficiency also vitamins d3 and k2mk7. I take magnesium citrate 400mg per day good luck

[Hidden]

If you are magnesium deficient it might help. I took magnesium and it did nothing, but the following stopped my Afib:

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After 9 years of trying different foods and logging EVERYTHING I ate, I found sugar (and to a lesser degree, salt – i.e. dehydration) was triggering my Afib. Doctors don't want to hear this - there is no money in telling patients to eat less sugar. Each person has a different sugar threshold - and it changes as you get older, so you need to count every gram of sugar you eat every day (including natural sugars in fruits, etc.). My tolerance level was 190 grams of sugar per day 8 years ago, 85 grams a year and a half ago, and 60 grams today, so AFIB episodes are more frequent and last longer. If you keep your intake of sugar below your threshold level your AFIB will not happen again (easier said than done of course). It's not the food - it's the sugar (or salt - see below) IN the food that's causing your problems. Try it and you will see - should only take you 1 or 2 months of trial-and-error to find your threshold level. And for the record - ALL sugars are treated the same (honey, refined, agave, natural sugars in fruits, etc.). I successfully triggered AFIB by eating a bunch of plums and peaches one day just to test it out. In addition, I have noticed that moderate exercise (7-mile bike ride or 5-mile hike in the park) often puts my Afib heart back in to normal rhythm a couple hours later. Don’t know why – perhaps you burn off the excess sugars in your blood/muscles or sweat out excess salt??

Also, in addition to sugar, if you are dehydrated - this will trigger AFIB as well. It seems (but I have no proof of this) that a little uptick of salt in your blood is being treated the same as an uptick of sugar - both cause AFIB episodes. (I’m not a doctor – it may be the sugar in your muscles/organs and not in your blood, don’t know). In any case you have to keep hydrated, and not eat too much salt. The root problem is that our bodies are not processing sugar/salt properly and no doctor knows why, but the AFIB seems to be a symptom of this and not the primary problem, but medicine is not advanced enough to know the core reason that causes AFIB at this time. You can have a healthy heart and still have Afib – something inside us is triggering it when we eat too much sugar or get (even a little) dehydrated. Find out the core reason for this and you will be a millionaire and make the cover of Time Magazine! Good luck! - Rick Hyer

[Boombiddy in reply to Hidden]

Hi Hidden ,

It is great that you have found what triggers your AF.

For me, a high salt intake is a medical necessity. Without a high salt intake my tachycardia would be much worse.

(This is because I have POTS - Postural Orthostatic Tachycardia Syndrome, which in my case is as a secondary condition caused by having Ehlers Danlos Syndrome, so my blood pressure varies between low and very low).

As you said, dehydration is really bad for you. In my case the fludrocortisone, high salt and high water intake prescribed by consultant keep up my blood volume, to prevent me from getting a lot more ill day to day.

Sugar is obv not great, but it doesn’t give me AF either.